In US a brown is a combination of brown and black hairs on coat, and can have black points. Only a bay if no black is in coat

1 comment on your Duns! Thear is more than the golden dun. I have 3 dun's what are all different! I have a golden dun, Chestnut dun, Dark dun. I also know the founder dam of these and she was yellow dun. You can also get blue, roan,chocolat. cant think of eany more from the top of my head! LOL
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I comment on your black. There is many shades of black, including some with white markings.

Your picture of a dun looks like a buckskin to me. If it doesn't have a distinct dorsal stripe, it's not a dun. And as Kathy says, there are different shades of dun: red dun, yellow dun, and black dun. The latter is called grullo or grulla (grew-ya) in the U.S. and is commonly found in Quarter Horses and Mustangs.

Also, palomino and sorrel are genetically different. Palomino is chestnut diluted by one copy of the creme gene, while sorrel is chestnut with a flaxen mane and tail.

I comment about the albino. There is no such thing in horses! The cremello is white with blue eyes and there is a perlino which is like the creamello but has pink eyes.
I also must say that a brown horse is also a black horse with a brown muzzel. If the horse is totally black but the nose is brown, it is brown.

Cremellos and Perlinos do not have wall-eyes.
Their eyes are blue, which is not the same as the
definite greyish-white of a wall-eye. Also, they
are not completely lacking in pigment - if they
were, there eyes would be pink, not blue, and there coat would
not be cream.

You also forgot to state that is possible for cremellos and
perlinos to have dark eyes too! Think of the Lone
Ranger's horse - it was a brown eyed cremello.
Rare but not unheard of!

Cremellos (and perlinos) always have blue eyes, although they can look dark from a distance. A "brown eyed cremello" is more likely to be an Isabella Palomino.

Have to disagree with the 3 basc colours of appaloosas there at least 6 What about Few spot leopards ( I own one) frosted vvarnish and solid to name but afew.

do you guys think it's possible to have black horse with white mane and tail?

I,ve heard that on a true appaloosa horse you can feel the spots, because i thought i had one but found out that it was a completly different breed!!!!

Someone once told me it was geneticliy impossible to get a black mare.

But I think they may have been wrong since at the new stables there are three black mares!

Appaloosa is not a colour, not all Appaloosas are spotted and there not the only spotted breed. What about Knabstruppers?

Hi

I have a question on color. My mare is a sorrel and she just had a foal with strange coloring. I would call it rose and beige on her back and sides, reddish color on her ears and neck, and her legs were pure white when born, now her reddish coloring is almost to the knees. If you look at her from behind, her legs are white from either side of the tail all the way down to the hoof. Her mane is reddish and her tail is reddish with white hair underneath. Like two tone. Her face has a thick white stripe like a bald face from eye to eye, down the muzzle and up to the forhead? Any idea what color she might turn out to be? Her skin is Black.I have no idea who the father is, we got the mare and didnt know she was in foal. LOL!

Cremellos can also have green eyes i owned one

How are black horses meant to be rare.

I had a Jet Black Welsh Section D - and there are four black cobs on my yard.

I don't really think that Brown horses are rare either - I know of two on our yard.

Sorry to pick!!!

:o)

can chestnut horses have black mane and tail? Or is bay the one that has black mane and tail? Also whats the colour/breed (not sure) that is golden like a palomino with black mane and tail? Thanks

Icelandic horses can have some more colours than stated here :-)

Most interesting Icelandic colour is called "wind colour" and means a dark horse with much lighter mane and tail. Their coat color is always solid, never roan. It is never reddish or pale but varies from dirty-greyish (not whitening) to greenish-dun, dark golden brown to pewter grey. No dorsal stripe. Their mane and tail color ranges from silver to plain white. It's a spectacular and much sought-after colour and I haven't seen it in any other breed.

'Chestnut' is not spelled correctly! :)

Also, the picture of a supposedly flea-bitten grey looks more like a dapple grey to me. Flea-bitten greys have brownish coloured flecks on an otherwise white-colored coat.

i have a palomino mare and she breed with a red quarter horse. the filly is white/grey color, is this call cremello?

thanks

In answer to a few questions and comments above.

Genetically a true black horse is rare and is known as a non fading black. A lot of black horses are actually fading black. If you have a black horse that lightens in summer then your horse is not a true black horse. This is because of the sun which lightens the horse's hair into brown especially on the body and techinically this is classed as sun burn of the hair. You will find this common in areas where the horse sweats. A true black horse's hair does not lighten or change colour and will have a metallic or even a blue sheen.

The difference between a Cremello and Perlino is minimal but Perlinos are often characterised with a darker coffee coloured mane and tail. Most perlinos can not be distinguished from cremellos by appearance.

Different types of dun are blue dun/grullo, red dun, mouse dun and yellow dun.

A buckskin is a dun coloured horse WITHOUT the dorsal skin. Variations include cream bucksin, golden buckskin, sooty buckskin and black bucksin.

It is incorrect in this day and age to label 'coloured' horses as either skewbald and piebald. Gentically there is a big difference with coloured horses depending on their markings.

Most coloured horses are Tobiano which means that the white markings appear to spread downwards from the spine and upwards from the legs. A tobiano can range from minimal (example Ex-event horse Bits and Pieces)to a completly white horse with a dark head(known as a medicine hat)The Piebald in the picture above would be a an extensive white tobiano with a medicine hat!

An Overo coloured horse is a pattern with white patches that appear to spread across the body along the ribs, neck and body. Leaving the topline of the horse solid coloured. Breeding an Overo to an overo causes the lethal white foal syndrome and any foal will die soon after birth.

A sabino has dominant white patches/splashes which appear to run up the legs and from under the belly and neck. For an example of this colouring have a look at some Clydesdales as this is a common colouring of the breed and this is often mistaken as a roan!

Hi ya,

Im sounding prob really thick, but what does it mean when people say that a horse is a cob, does it mean its a bigger horse or the colour of the horse, sorry am very new to all this!!

Thanks

i just wanted to clear something up. in the section on greys it says "'White' horses are never refered to as white unless they are a true albino." thats not true. true white (non-albino) horses do exist. They are, however, VERY VERY rare! Currently in the usa, there are 6 registered true white thoroughbreds, three of which were born just this past year.

cob means a heavyweight horse, ususally sections d's or a shire is a perfect example of a cob, it means kinda chunky! nothing 2 do with color!

This site says black and brown (bay) horses arent very common but they are the most common, in most breeds its the main colour along with chestnut! my new forest is bay and the majority of people on my yard hav brown, bay or black horses!

Albinos - There are no true albinos in horses for the gene does not exist. A true albino would have red eyes because there is no color. Blue eyes still exhibit color. What are considered albino's are generally dominant white horses.

Dominant white is a masking color much like grey is. However whites are born white and while most greys turn grey as they get older.

I have a young filly with walleyes, can anyone tell me the origion of the walleyed pony, I have been told this is due to inn breeding but I was of the impresion it was to do with ponies of a light coloured coat.
can anyone advise