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shoniedaspony
15th Feb 2007, 08:40 PM
What shows are there around for icelandics nowadays?
Are there any that aren't purely breed shows, such as classes incorporated into other breed/ open shows?
and do you think the icelandic breed shows would be interest in introducing a class open to all gaited breeds?
just curious, thanks

CER1389
20th Feb 2007, 09:18 PM
Well, there are specific Icelandic Shows. (:eek: I'm heading for one at Easter! My first!! :eek: )
Which are then broken down into various classes T1, T2 (although I couldn't tell you exactly what they involve). Thre are classes just for tolt, for all 4 gaits, for all 5 gaits, pace races etc. Some pure Icelandic shows do dressage tests...including the tolt.

However, no reason why Icelandics can't participate in general shows! Show jumping, dressage, La Trec, family pony etc.

However you wouldn't find an icelandic class at a general county show for example.

:D PM me is you want to know more about shows, icys and things. Do you have your own?

Wally
20th Feb 2007, 11:13 PM
There are gaited horse shows open to any gaited breed.

There is no point taking an ordinary gaited horse to an Icelandic show as all the classes are specific to the breed.

shoniedaspony
21st Feb 2007, 08:54 AM
do many people enter gaited horse classes with icelandics? i have never seen any. but then i suppose the iceys may be more suited to the oval track, with specific classes which allow them to best show off their gaits.

Sable
21st Feb 2007, 01:09 PM
Have a look here :) http://www.ihsgb.co.uk/events_calendar.htm

shoniedaspony
21st Feb 2007, 02:57 PM
do you think they would be prepared to put in a class in one of their shows for other gaited breeds?

oh and is anyone going to smari's show in easter? im thinking i might drive down and watch

Wally
21st Feb 2007, 04:03 PM
You're joking!

Last time someone suggested putting other gaited breeds into any IHSGB event she was met with appoplexy! ;) ;)

shoniedaspony
21st Feb 2007, 04:53 PM
i thought that was the likely answer...thought id test the water here before asking and upsetting the health of many IHSGB committee members!

It seems a shame really, i have never seen or known of an icelandic at any shows other than IHSGB shows, and it think it might be restricting people knowing about the breed.

Im trying to get my paso out and about to as many shows as possible, as the first ever breed show is apparently in april, it has been other gaited classes.

My friend has managed to persuade the morgan horse society, and british saddlebred society, to put classes into their yearly shows, which has more than doubled the showing classes i can enter! Just thought it would be nice to see if the same was possible in icelandic shows, or any other breeds for that matter.

shoniedaspony
21st Feb 2007, 04:55 PM
do you think if i tried to pretend my paso was an icelandic and enter a class anyone would notice :rolleyes: :p

Frances
21st Feb 2007, 05:43 PM
Nah! Go for it!

Best of luck, though, when they find out!!!!

Wouldn't wanna be yer!

Fx

shoniedaspony
21st Feb 2007, 06:30 PM
unfortunately he doesnt even look anything like an icelandic... even with all his fluff at the moment he is the skinniest chested thing ive ever seen, and our gait when alongside a tolt appears somewhat lacklustre.
theres just not enough of him to get away with it...unfortunately!

alternatively i could steal/beg an icelandic...im desperate to have a go at this oval track stuff.

oh and while we are on the topic of icelandic shows...
in the free tolt class (i assume its called something like that) where you tolt for 5 minutes or however long it is on a loose rein and have to execute speed changes etc- does it matter what type of bit you use? eg the icelandic style curb vs the snaffle- i always thought its slightly unfair to have a curb type bit when what looks like minimal contact does actually have some effect?

Wally
21st Feb 2007, 09:15 PM
You have to abide by FEIF rules, The Icelandic curb is not for the novice horse and rider. .....not for anything really, can't see the point....mach stuff to my mind.

There is a FEIF book with 100's of diagrams of bits permissable, ....if it ain't in the FEIF book you cannot use it.

Don;t forget you get red and yellow cards for coarse use of bit, reins and coarse riding... One red card and you are barred for the rest of the competition.

shoniedaspony
22nd Feb 2007, 08:57 AM
oh ok it seems to be a lot more regulated than it first appeared-having only watched one free tolt race it didnt exactly seem equal but there you go.
saying that the horses in the curbs didnt come 1st or 2nd...hmmm
thanks :)

Stella2
26th Feb 2007, 02:13 PM
I hope these questions are okay here, they are on Icelandics and showing. I'm curious, do any Icelandics do dressage? And what weight are they up to?

ianpugh
10th Mar 2007, 08:49 PM
I'm curious, do any Icelandics do dressage? And what weight are they up to?

Yes. Icelandics can do dressage. There will be a dressage class at the British Championships this summer which will take place at West Linton on the weekend of 23/24 June 2007.

Icelandics carry adult riders of all normal weights.

Ian

Stella2
10th Mar 2007, 08:54 PM
can you define normal weight?
and do they ever do British Dressage classes?

ianpugh
10th Mar 2007, 08:58 PM
There is a FEIF book with 100's of diagrams of bits permissable, ....if it ain't in the FEIF book you cannot use it.

Don;t forget you get red and yellow cards for coarse use of bit, reins and coarse riding... One red card and you are barred for the rest of the competition.

The FIPO no longer identifies acceptable bits. All normal riding bits are allowed unless they are explicitly forbidden. A list of forbidden bids is maintained in the FIPO.

Yellow Cards are warnings. Red Cards are disqualifications from the class. You need cards from at least two judges for the warning or disqualification of apply.

I don't know what is meant by coarse riding. Warnings or disqualifications can be given for rough riding. The objective is to penalise unfair treatment of the horse.


You will not barred from a competition for warnings or disqualifications issues in individual classes.

Ian

ianpugh
10th Mar 2007, 09:09 PM
do you think they would be prepared to put in a class in one of their shows for other gaited breeds?


It is a possibility if there was enough interest. Of course it would have to be a class that was suitable for other gaited breeds. Have you any ideas?

Ian

ianpugh
10th Mar 2007, 09:12 PM
You're joking!

Last time someone suggested putting other gaited breeds into any IHSGB event she was met with appoplexy! ;) ;)

Nobody has suggested that to me. If they did I don't suppose that I (being a trustee myself) would have apoplexy!

Ian

ianpugh
10th Mar 2007, 09:15 PM
i thought that was the likely answer...thought id test the water here before asking and upsetting the health of many IHSGB committee members!

It seems a shame really, i have never seen or known of an icelandic at any shows other than IHSGB shows, and it think it might be restricting people knowing about the breed.

Im trying to get my paso out and about to as many shows as possible, as the first ever breed show is apparently in april, it has been other gaited classes.

My friend has managed to persuade the morgan horse society, and british saddlebred society, to put classes into their yearly shows, which has more than doubled the showing classes i can enter! Just thought it would be nice to see if the same was possible in icelandic shows, or any other breeds for that matter.

Why don't you ask? If you have any feasible suggestions then they can be considered. What sort of sport classes do Paso horses compete in?

Ian

ianpugh
10th Mar 2007, 09:23 PM
oh and while we are on the topic of icelandic shows...
in the free tolt class (i assume its called something like that) where you tolt for 5 minutes or however long it is on a loose rein and have to execute speed changes etc- does it matter what type of bit you use? eg the icelandic style curb vs the snaffle- i always thought its slightly unfair to have a curb type bit when what looks like minimal contact does actually have some effect?

I guess you are talking about the T2 Class. In the qualifying phases competitors ride in groups of three. There are three section in this class. In the first two sections, competitors show any speed tolt, and slow and steady tolt. In the third section, competitors show tolt with a loose reain - competitors are allowed to correct the horse to maintain the gait.

Clearly a curb bit can be more sever than a snaffle. Correct usage of all bits is important.

Ian

ianpugh
10th Mar 2007, 09:29 PM
can you define normal weight?


No. I am 13 stone 3, if that helps.


Do they ever do British Dressage classes?

Yes. I believe so.

Ian