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SarahC
11th Mar 2007, 01:49 PM
Hi all,
I need some help with turnout for a ridden coloured class (non-native). She is a 15.1h ISHx so m/w and no cob in her at all.
I've asked quite a few people about this and the answers seem to be varied!
My questions are:
Plain or velvet browband?
Raised cavesson bridle or flat cavesson?
Blue, black or tweed jacket?
canary or beige jods?
Do I have to pull her tail or can it be plaited? (obviously as its non-native, her mane will be plaited).
This is for local level this year, but hopefully county level next year.
Thanks v. much
S
Glider
11th Mar 2007, 02:44 PM
If she's a middleweight it sounds like she'll be a hunter type, but if you have a photo then we could tell you for definate.
If that is the case, she should be in a plain bridle and browband, with flat caveson noseband. You should be in a tweed jacket with blue hat and the choice of jods colour is yours, although most riding coloureds go for a more yellowy colour as it makes the horse look whiter!
Her tail will be fine plaited for local level, but any higher it should be pulled (or if you want the more professional look at local level).
katie2
12th Mar 2007, 12:00 PM
I agree with Glider!
SarahC
12th Mar 2007, 05:38 PM
Thanks v. much!
Have posted a pic....I wouldn't really say she's a hunter type...though I think its hard to tell in this pic (I have to reduce them down in size for them to fit on NR!). Her chest is narrow and her legs are quite fine....she's more like a show pony type but in a horse!! If you know what I mean?
This is why I'm confused as to turnout in a ridden coloured class...
Does that help any?!?!?!!
Laura+Phantom
14th Mar 2007, 04:34 AM
No, I would say she's more of a riding horse than a hunter, in which case I think your turnout is pretty correct.
Have a look here: http://rehorses.com/coloured.html
I may be shot down in flames and called a fool, but I think for her type its navy jacket, canary-ish jods, coloured browband, show cavesson noseband, plaited mane, probably pulled tail but i'm sure plaited is fine for local level.
For county level I expect you'll need to use a pelham or double bridle.
She's gorgeous by the way, very pretty!
SarahC
14th Mar 2007, 11:05 AM
Thanks to everyone for their replies.
I'm obviously no expert on this, especially hunter types, but I just didn't think she was built up enough to be a hunter....if you know what I mean. She seems a bit more erm....delicate than my own perception of what a hunter type would look like?
Obviously Glider was just going on what I said rather than having a pic to work from so I'm sure that didn't help!!
Thanks again.
S
Glider
14th Mar 2007, 02:47 PM
It is hard to tell from that photo, what is her movement like? Be aware that coloureds are generally more "accepted" in hunter classes than riding horse classes, but the tides are changing...slowly! She looks a bit inbetween types to me, why don't you do both classes and ask for the judge's comments? So much depends on movement and way of going in these classes too.
Laura is right about the turnout for riding horse classes, except you should ideally be in a tweed jacket, although a lot of people at local level will be in blue. If you do county level things, you should definately be in a tweed jacket.
REBMAR
14th Mar 2007, 04:14 PM
Gilder
I'm planning on showing my MW piebald mare as a coloured traditional this year. Re her bridle it's a sabre, quite wide & workman like looking (3/4 cheek pieces) but noseband and browband are soft padded. Does this matter? I'm showing her in a pelham because she can be too strong in a snaffle.
SarahC
14th Mar 2007, 07:22 PM
Well the classes at local level are just titled 'ridden coloureds' and at County for CHAPS, they seem to be separated into Native and Non Native coloureds....
So I wouldn't actually be going into a Hunter or Riding Horse class as such.
This is why I'm confused about turnout for the coloureds classes.
I assume as non native, she would be as per a show pony type with coloured browband etc??
Gosh, this is sooooo confusing!!!
Maybe I should spectate at a county show and see what the competitors for these classes wear?!
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and help me out. Much appreciated.
S
Iron Maiden
14th Mar 2007, 09:44 PM
This is very interesting...
Not trying to hijack, but if anyone has any advice for me too, it would be appreciated! I'm not a serious showing person but would like to do a bit with P this summer & am having very similar dilemmas to SarahC. Here is P - she's lovely but I accept she's not exactly going to shake the showing world to its foundations. She's pretty long backed & a bit pigeon toed for a start, as for my ability to plait & turn her out - well lets not go there! She moves well but nothing spectacular, sort of workmanlike really. But I'd like to enter her for the most appropriate classes wherever we go & turn us both out properly if poss.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o233/rancidprong/DSCF0174.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o233/rancidprong/DSCF0128.jpg
Cheers!
Glider
16th Mar 2007, 06:23 PM
Gilder
I'm planning on showing my MW piebald mare as a coloured traditional this year. Re her bridle it's a sabre, quite wide & workman like looking (3/4 cheek pieces) but noseband and browband are soft padded. Does this matter? I'm showing her in a pelham because she can be too strong in a snaffle.
Padded isn't what you'd choose if you were buying a showing bridle, but it really isn't going to make the difference between placings. It's the overall picture that matters most, so if it complements her face ans isn't padded with white (or lilac or pink I've seen!!) don't worry about changing it. If you want to do well at county level it's then you start thinking about changing expensive things like tack.
Well the classes at local level are just titled 'ridden coloureds' and at County for CHAPS, they seem to be separated into Native and Non Native coloureds....
So I wouldn't actually be going into a Hunter or Riding Horse class as such.
This is why I'm confused about turnout for the coloureds classes.
I assume as non native, she would be as per a show pony type with coloured browband etc??
Gosh, this is sooooo confusing!!!
Maybe I should spectate at a county show and see what the competitors for these classes wear?!
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and help me out. Much appreciated.
S
In non-native classes you turn out according to the type of horse you are riding, so if you're on a 14.2hh show pony you'd be in a blue jacket and fancy browband, but if you were on an 18hh heavyweight hunter you'd look pretty rediculous with a poncy browband, so you'd turn out as in a hunter class, and so on. Non-native just means they're not 'hairy' (native, traditional or vanner types) or hogged cobs, so it encompases everything else.
Going to spectate at a county show is a great way to see what you should be wearing, look at the top end of the line up, and see what you think looks professional. Just beware of some of the "fashions" that go in and out and look at the majority.
SarahC
17th Mar 2007, 11:21 AM
Ah I understand now...!
Thanks for your help Glider. I have just heard that I will probably be stewarding at a County show this year so have a feeling that will help loads!!
Thanks again.
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