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cvb
18th Mar 2007, 09:17 PM
Fi is being a pain. She bit my mother this week when she was being led up to the stable. A really nasty bite mid-back :(

Since then, various options have been tried to manage this better - none are ideal. She was shod today - which may help if she was sore and pain is/was a factor. (her toes were getting long, which will have put more stress on her tendons etc). (I've also just started her on a calming supplement - but it'll take a while to kick in. And hopefully it is only a few weeks til they can go out permanently for the summer).

Anyway, it looks like my old guy (35 this year !) has her sussed. While she was being shod, she was tied up outside his stable and proceeded to pull menacing faces at him - and in to HIS space. Rather than move back from the door (as Rosie might - Rosie is right next door to her all the time), Red seemed to take a moment to think, eyed up the situation, and then grabbed the loose tail (*) on her headcollar in his mouth. He held her there, with her head bernt to one side (lateral flexion !), for about 4 or 5 minutes. She appeared not to be able to move. When he let go, she stood back and gave him his space.

(* by which I mean the bit of webbing sticking out beyond the buckle)

He did again, a while later. Though this time there was nio provocation. It was almost as if he was proving a point - that he could still do it anytime he chose to.

It was at the same time both funny and an outstanding piece of mare management :)

Especially as the old guy has next to no teeth at the front, so will have been grabbing the headcollar with his gums.

He had her in pin-down, in a head lock. :cool:
He is sooooo cool :D

(There is research that says that this type of approach is valid for kids that are behaving badly - you hold them firmly til they calm down).

Sammii
18th Mar 2007, 09:19 PM
Aww! That's really sweet....and he could have changed your mare for life ;) :D Bless him!
No pics I see? What a pic that would have made! Teehee...

Lucyad
18th Mar 2007, 09:23 PM
Wow, sounds like your old guy knows more tricks for horse handling than we all do! Fancy sending him over this way?

MrDCBags
18th Mar 2007, 09:26 PM
(There is research that says that this type of approach is valid for kids that are behaving badly - you hold them firmly til they calm down).

Can't do it schools tho as we get sued for assault:eek:

cvb
18th Mar 2007, 09:31 PM
Its an interesting thing - Fi's misbehaviour has been a big worry....and I commented today that I could do with Red's brain in her body... and mum reminded me he was hardly a saint himself at her age :p

They all give her a wide berth in the field at the moment, but he *is* the type to work out that he was behind a stable door and there was really not much she could do ! He has always been a bit of a gentleman with *nice* mares but has little time for stroppy ones :cool:

MrDCBags - no, I know. I know people who teach locally who have had things like desks thrown at them :eek: and/or been injured, and there is nothing they can do but take it :mad:

We wouldn't put ourselves at risk like that with a horse (well not TWICE !)...

MrDCBags
18th Mar 2007, 09:35 PM
We wouldn't put ourselves at risk like that with a horse (well not TWICE !)...

This is very true, however we do ask ourselves why did my ponio do that and look for resolution of the situation.

I work with young people who have been removed from school and find myself applying horse sense to difficult situations and find that it works:D

They sure do teach us a lot!

Tootsie4U
18th Mar 2007, 11:54 PM
mum reminded me he was hardly a saint himself at her age :p ...

Hee, hee.

They dont tell you to respect your elders for no reason! :D

Bay Mare
19th Mar 2007, 06:14 AM
That's brilliant :) What a wise old boy .... :D

I do love how horses can teach us something new every single day x

Skib
19th Mar 2007, 06:37 AM
I am so sorry about your Mum cvb - I know how much she helps you, but when older women deal with horses that bite, the balance of power is never easy. The mare I ride is a biter. She hasnt bitten me yet. But there are other older staff at the yard who have been bitten by her in the past and it is not something anyone forgets.

I hope your Mum heals well and you can sort out something for her. The Parelli sounds as if it might be good?