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Bobbin
21st Mar 2007, 09:51 AM
I was just wondering how those of you with long maned part bred horses cope at shows.

I find it really hard to find classes that we can enter as I can't plait up and she's not a 'pure bred' mountain and moorland.

So what classes does everyone enter?

MelanieD
21st Mar 2007, 09:56 AM
Either do a little bit of a haircut then do hundreds of big plaits (looks a bit silly), get creative with the plaiting (french plait type things) or leave hairy and sneak into the purebred classes and hope they don't check registration :o If I do bother showing this year I'm rebelling and letting her go hairy even though she shouldn't, only doing it for the day out rather than to win anyway :)

Bobbin
21st Mar 2007, 11:43 AM
I can plait her up as in plaits either side of her neck but I just can't do the balls as she looks like she has golf balls and with a full mane in either side of her neck....even thats tricky.

I just love her with a full mane and don't think I could bare to chop it off:eek:

Mehitabel
21st Mar 2007, 11:48 AM
well, if you like her like that then that's fine - perhaps try a crest plait? that will be acceptable for local showing, but loose is not, unelss she is either an arab or a traditional cob - this kind of thing
http://bspaonline.com/traditional.jpg

if you're out for a day to have fun and broaden both of your experiences, then do the crest plait, do things like family pony, cob type, etc - but if you want ot win and do serious showing then it's pulled and plaited.

Tootsie4U
21st Mar 2007, 06:23 PM
but if you want ot win and do serious showing then it's pulled and plaited.

Really? I've seen serious showers with crest plaits (we call them french braids) at the recognized dressage shows in NY. Here's Bonfire with his at his last big show:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i25/Tootsie4U/BreedShow_20060730_0013.jpg

The judge even commented on how great it was (and I believe we got a 9 for turn out).

Is it another 'across the pond' thing?

Herbie's mummy
21st Mar 2007, 06:27 PM
Well if she is not horse of any ''type'' of such, then enter fun classes like family pony etc.

Daffy Dilly
21st Mar 2007, 06:28 PM
Neither the plait, nor the bit nor the bridle would win you points showing on this side of the pond, and I think there's also only one or two shows where you have a number on the bridle as opposed to the riders back.

In the UK, he would be properly plaited, he'd be in a pelham/double and the bridle would be brown, with no flash, and a flat, thicker noseband. Either a flat browband, or a fancy ribboned one.

He'd be fine for dressage, fine for jumping (although the current fashion seems to be for gags rather than snaffles) but just not showing shows. Turnout is really different between the disciplines, particularly showing vs the others.

Mehitabel
21st Mar 2007, 06:51 PM
yep - UK showing is a whole other kettle of fish. completely separate from dressage, too. here, to be correctly turned out bon would be like this:
http://rehorses.com/rockstar.jpg

Tootsie4U
21st Mar 2007, 07:07 PM
Interesting...

Bon's mane is long because for the Morgan shows he needs a long mane if Im to do anything in hand. Then for Morgan dressage, you plait them up like in his photo. His photo was a United States Dressage Federation Breed Show (with Morgan classes) but the way his mane was was perfectly acceptable. If you have a hunter Morgan, then they have a pulled mane with plaits like your photo Mehitabel.

Tootsie4U
21st Mar 2007, 07:09 PM
Neither the plait, nor the bit nor the bridle would win you points showing on this side of the pond,

Curious, whats wrong with the tack for seroius showing over there?

Here, I could gain more points if it were a padded bridle, but its still a good one for showing.

jenren!!
21st Mar 2007, 07:15 PM
I didnt think it mattered. I showed Barnaby in alsorts of classes, including equitation and riding club pony, with a full mane left how it was. And his mane was all over the place! The judges never complained, i dont think.

Mehitabel
21st Mar 2007, 07:36 PM
Interesting...

Bon's mane is long because for the Morgan shows he needs a long mane if Im to do anything in hand. Then for Morgan dressage, you plait them up like in his photo. His photo was a United States Dressage Federation Breed Show (with Morgan classes) but the way his mane was was perfectly acceptable. If you have a hunter Morgan, then they have a pulled mane with plaits like your photo Mehitabel.

here you turn out the same whatever you're doing - so petal's correct turnout for ridden showing, inhand showing and dressage is the same. if any plaiting is done, it's the bobbled ones, not the crest. i could plait her for dressage if i wanted, but there are no rules about it.

his bridle for showing would need a coloured velvet browband (he'd be a riding horse here) and no flash, and probably a flat noseband rather than raised. and double reins in an open class, and a snaffle for novice.

padded bridles here make judges have heart attacks! ;)

Bobbin
21st Mar 2007, 08:14 PM
I think you guys are really looking at higher level showing....I'm only looking to do local showing....I entered a show class last year riding in a Kimblewick and came 5th out of 11 horses/ponies....and if I am going to be showing in a snaffle...then there will be a flash attached otherwise I'll be seen galloping out of the arena yelling as I go:eek:

I must remember to get a coloured brow band though:)

Tootsie4U
21st Mar 2007, 09:12 PM
his bridle for showing would need a coloured velvet browband (he'd be a riding horse here) and no flash, and probably a flat noseband rather than raised. and double reins in an open class, and a snaffle for novice.



That is so weird! :D

Most of my understanding of proper dressage/Morgan showing was obtained from the DQ I worked and trained under. According to her, you're not taken seriously if you *dont* have a flash (whether you need it or not). My bridle, as you can see, came with the flash. I was told to either cut the loop off for showing without one or to just put the flash on. Obviously, I couldnt bring myself to butcher my expensive bridle, so I put the flash on for shows only - and loosely. A double bridle is typically seen in the upper levels but you'll see a snaffle in levels higher than the low too.

Wally
22nd Mar 2007, 07:49 AM
No flashes for the show ring in the UK.

No_Angel
22nd Mar 2007, 08:01 AM
I dont think bry would need a coloured browband as shes a cob type, only tb type horses and show ponies wear coloured browbands.
With my cob whos a similar shape to bry, he has workman like tack, so a wide flat noseband, flat browband, and either a pelham or snaffle.

I have plaited murfs mane in a crest plait, and ive done equitation classes, but i usually show him in m&m and best cob type when i do show him, we usually always get 2nd and 3rds, so i stick to those classes.

Lgd
22nd Mar 2007, 08:26 AM
Tavia does mainly dressage - her mane is lattice braided. The only 'showing' type classes she has done are Ridden Sporthorse classes and she won the class last year at Durham County Show, braid and all.

These two show her mane best

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16243

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16242