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raggydoll
18th Apr 2007, 08:39 PM
In adverts for larger ponies that say "suit small adult" what does that mean? what counts as small?

Bronya
18th Apr 2007, 08:45 PM
I usually count as one - 5ft4", 9 stone.

Basically, short and slight!

evilgiraffe
18th Apr 2007, 08:48 PM
I think of myself as a small adult, at 5'3". I think it generally refers to height more than weight (although obviously you can get huge short people, but in general short adults weigh less than tall adults). I should think "small adult" includes people up to about 5'5" and 12-13 stone. Wonder what everyone else thinks...!

gypsygold
18th Apr 2007, 08:54 PM
I think small adult actually refers more to weight than height. I would generallly class a small adult (in horse terms) as being upto 10 1/2 stone and upto 5'4".

A pony wont care too much how tall you are but weight is more likely to affect it.

naughty_noo_noo
18th Apr 2007, 09:14 PM
i would say im a small adult im 5' 2" and weigh 9 and a half stone :eek:

mu0ljk
18th Apr 2007, 09:16 PM
I count myself as a small adult at 5'4" and 9stone.

Afellpony
18th Apr 2007, 09:17 PM
I'm 5'1" and weigh 7.5 stones. So I guess I'm a small adult as I'm over 21!!!!! My definition of a small adult would be under 5'5" and certainly less than 10 stone. (LoL)!!!!!

Pink's lady
18th Apr 2007, 09:18 PM
I would count someone who was under 5'4 AND less than about 9st as a small adult.

Wally
19th Apr 2007, 07:39 AM
Yup, that's about how I'd think of a small adult as. under 5 foot, 3-4 and 9-9.5 stone!

notpoodle
19th Apr 2007, 07:48 AM
hm, i'm 5'5 and 8st (thereabouts) and er think of myself as a small adult when it comes to pony-riding :D

Julia
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acw295
19th Apr 2007, 08:30 AM
I am told I am one - 5ft 3 and 9 stone (ish - weight a bit more after Easter :o)

ajhainey
19th Apr 2007, 08:37 AM
Not too tall (under 5'5" ish) and under 9-10stone. AJ XX

abbiegirl
19th Apr 2007, 11:15 AM
i have advertised for a small lightweight adult to share my son-s 13.2 pony and would idealy like someone about 5"3 - 5"4 or under and under 10 stone as thats what i would class as a small adult;)

nicolaj
19th Apr 2007, 03:43 PM
I'd consider myself a small adult at approx 8.5-9 stone and 5'4".

xxxkristinaxxx
19th Apr 2007, 03:45 PM
i would say about 5ft - 5ft4
and weighs under 10 stone

kyanya
19th Apr 2007, 04:04 PM
I say that I can just about get away as a small adult, and I'm 5'5'' and around 10 stone. I actually thought I was shorter than that though until I was measured the other - I'm quite disappointed!! Riding schools seem happy enough to put me on the little 'uns though!

coverblown
19th Apr 2007, 04:21 PM
At 5' 1 3/4" I'm a small adult, for sure. Although I don't fit within the strict under 9 stone criterion (just, hehe if I kid myself, more like 9 3/4 ).

But I would love to be as tall as 5'5" - to me thats a fairly big adult. But from my perspective most people are.....

showjumper-zoe
19th Apr 2007, 06:53 PM
Probably petite people like up tp 5'4"

puzzles
19th May 2007, 08:28 PM
it's confusing - it means height and weight really, as a smaller adult is more likely to weigh less (theoretically), which i think is very unfair as i'm 15 and 5'6but weigh less than i think i will in 10 years time, if you know what i mean. it's too general a term - a 6-footer could weigh 8 stone (!) and a 5-footer could weigh 15. it depends on the indivuidual. if only they could say "under 11 stone" or something...

courage_uk
19th May 2007, 08:56 PM
hehe, any one under 5'8 in my books is a short arse ;-)

:D

NZdressage
20th May 2007, 07:00 AM
wow im 5'7 and 9 stone

Floob
20th May 2007, 09:07 AM
I wouldn't class as one, being 17 so still a teenager. But when we were looking for a second pony as companion to Tarquin that we could go hacking with and just have some fun we phoned up about a 12.2hh pony as it said suitable for teenager/small adult. The first thing we said was my height and weight as I would at 9st and 5ft6 1/2 be the tallest and heaviest rider. She said we would be fine. We didn't go and view in the end as it became clear that there were some hacking issues, and that was the only thing we did want, a happy hacker

I would count my mum as a small adult, she is 5ft4 and weighs just under 8st.

sabreig
20th May 2007, 10:03 AM
If you carry yourself well and have good balance riding you are supposed to feel up to 2 stone lighter to the horse, so in theory say if you thought 10 stone and under was a light adult then a good 12 stone rider could in theory ride the horse. Sorry, my mind is working overtime, not saying this is a light adult just wondered what everyone else thought. So a 10 stone rider would feel like a 8 stone rider to the horse etc.

LindaAd
20th May 2007, 01:31 PM
If you carry yourself well and have good balance riding you are supposed to feel up to 2 stone lighter to the horse, so in theory say if you thought 10 stone and under was a light adult then a good 12 stone rider could in theory ride the horse. Sorry, my mind is working overtime, not saying this is a light adult just wondered what everyone else thought. So a 10 stone rider would feel like a 8 stone rider to the horse etc.



I wouldn't count 12 stone as "small', however good a rider they were, no.
I'm only about 5'4", but I'm 13 stone, and I describe myself as a heavyweight.

Linda

NZdressage
21st May 2007, 03:27 AM
I wouldn't class as one, being 17 so still a teenager. .

so when are you an adult? this is my size i have been like this since i was about 13, so really Ive finished growing.

ajhainey
21st May 2007, 12:05 PM
If you carry yourself well and have good balance riding you are supposed to feel up to 2 stone lighter to the horse, so in theory say if you thought 10 stone and under was a light adult then a good 12 stone rider could in theory ride the horse. Sorry, my mind is working overtime, not saying this is a light adult just wondered what everyone else thought. So a 10 stone rider would feel like a 8 stone rider to the horse etc.

More the other way round - a bad 8stone feels like 10stone.

12 stone would certainly not be a small adult, in fact it's generally considered by riding schools to be the start of 'heavy adult' ime.

aj xx

puzzles
21st May 2007, 12:21 PM
What would you class me as? I'm 5'6" and weigh 8 stone - but even though i'm 15 do you think i'm too tall etc??

LokiSofi
21st May 2007, 12:31 PM
I class a small adult as someone over 18 no taller than 5'4" and weighing no more than 10 stone

puzzles
21st May 2007, 12:36 PM
so i'm too tall?

Laura+Phantom
21st May 2007, 04:03 PM
Well I think i'm considered on the heavy side of a small adult then at 5'3 and 10 stone, yet people always describe me as small. I think sometimes weight is just a number, I don't think I am big at all, and i'm a balanced rider of 14 years, so I would include myself in the small adult category. Plus my 13.2, 13.3 and 14hh ponies don't seem to notice ;)

puzzles
23rd May 2007, 03:27 PM
you're right, you're not big at all!

Laura+Phantom
23rd May 2007, 04:46 PM
Thank you :D

marchhare2006
24th May 2007, 01:59 PM
I'm a small adult - 5ft 4ish and around 8 stone. I'd say small adult was a 'volume' thing - either short or medium-sized (up to around 5ft 6ish) and very slim.

CER1389
24th May 2007, 03:44 PM
12 stone would certainly not be a small adult, in fact it's generally considered by riding schools to be the start of 'heavy adult' ime.



I think it depends. Don't forget muscle weighs 4 times fat. Theres a big difference between someone who weighs 12 stone of muscle and a person who weighs 12 stone of fat. Thier balance and proportions are completley different.
Again theres a difference between a 12 stone light rider who supports themselves, and a 12 stone beginner who bounces heavily in the saddle.
I'm 5ft4 and probably nearing 12 stone (I don't weigh myself but I'm a dress size 14. Not sure if anyone is similar and can tell me what they weigh) however I will happily ride something 13.1hh high. Obviously it will depends on bone density as well. I will never ride a very fine pony, but something with a bit of bone I will.

I class myself as a "small adult" and will happily ride most sizes providing I think they will be ok. I'm a lighter rider as well.

puzzles
24th May 2007, 08:11 PM
very true!

CER1389
24th May 2007, 09:09 PM
Just reading back the quote I used:

considered by riding schools


Riding schools need a weight limit because the horse is required to work for a couple of hours a day.

I do think the amount of work, and type of work the horse is expected to do also changes the weight it can be expected to carry.

I would not take a 13.1hh on the beach for 3 hours of galloping and swimming.
However I would expect the same pony to carry me for a 3 hour walking hack.
I don't know if thats hypocritical or sensible of me, but just my opinion :D

coss
24th May 2007, 09:20 PM
i would class myself as a small-ish adult, just over 5ft7 and weigh about 9and a half stone, i feel big on small ponies though (height wise) so basically don't ride anything below 14.2hh.

Sparklie
24th May 2007, 09:42 PM
I class myself as a small adult.
I'm 5'6 and around 9 stone.

holiday
24th May 2007, 09:44 PM
In adverts for larger ponies that say "suit small adult" what does that mean? what counts as small?

Everyone seems to be missing the point of the question!!!!!! "suit small adult" - that means the pony is usually too sharp/strong/naughty etc for a child!!!!!! I have a yard full of ponies and have read hundreds of adverts, and basically that is the meaning of the sentence!!!!!!!

Im classed as a small adult as im 5'3 and around 9 stone - give or take Xmas etc!!!!!!

marchhare2006
25th May 2007, 12:01 PM
oh yeah. I get your point. Yes, I suppose that is what it means!!

Trewsers
25th May 2007, 12:07 PM
A small adult is the enviable person that you always see on a yard that looks perfect on anything 14hh or under, is petite, compact, has absolutely no flab at all and you just know buys their clothes from the teeny range in Debenhams. I am not jealous of petite people - honestly............put another way, a small adult would be me (I am 5ft nothing) but without the spare weight I carry...........

puzzles
25th May 2007, 07:29 PM
hey Trewers and other curvy peeps, have you ever wondered why it's the skinnies who break bones when they fall - they have no fat on 'em! the most curvy peeps tend to break is their pride...:-) love yourself for who you are cos there's no one remotely like you anywhere in the world - so you have things no one else has! betcha never thought of it that way! ;-)
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k8_doran
25th May 2007, 08:14 PM
A small adult is the enviable person that you always see on a yard that looks perfect on anything 14hh or under, is petite, compact, has absolutely no flab at all and you just know buys their clothes from the teeny range in Debenhams.

Well I see myself as a small adult, although I don't look perfect and I wouldnt fit in the teeny range, I am about 5ft 2 and about 9 stone, but I dont have a washboard stoach :( I have a little belly on me

puzzles
27th May 2007, 10:55 PM
i'm sure you look stunning hun
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i'm 5'6 and 8 stone and I have stretch marks so don't ayone moan about theirs!

laceyfreckle
28th May 2007, 10:09 AM
i'm a small adult and i'm 5ft 2 and weigh 10st 7. i own a 13.2hh welsh b. admittedly people that advertise a pony for sale for a 'small adult' do generally mean pony is too fast or too illmannered to be a childs pony. hence why i bought a childs LR pony lol. (my 8yr old daughter and i share although our 13.2hh is the perfect size for both of us.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t40/laceyfreckle/EBAY383.jpg

laceyfreckle
28th May 2007, 10:10 AM
i blame my four kids for my excess weight!

iccle_me
28th May 2007, 10:20 AM
i 4ft 10 1/2 and about 7st so i guess im deff a small adult!! i often ride the yos 10HH pony and 17.1 hunter. i like being small it means you can ride anything!!

puzzles
28th May 2007, 05:48 PM
that's dinky!! (if you don't mind me saying) - but fab because you can ride anything!

Trewsers
1st Jun 2007, 10:53 AM
Yep, definitely if you have more padding you bounce! hehehehe, still wouldn't mind being able to ride smaller horsees tho!!!

Laura+Phantom
1st Jun 2007, 10:57 AM
I don't know, I wondered if falling onto my shoulder (monday before last when I fell off) would have hurt less if there was less weight falling onto it, if you get me! It was very painful and purple!

Anyway, I will be a smaller adult soon, just try and stop me :)

Nazdaq
1st Jun 2007, 11:17 AM
I am small in height (5ft 2ins) and soon to be small in weight....and even at this weight I ride Welshies between 13.2hh and 15hh. :D

scrappydoo
3rd Jun 2007, 03:50 PM
:D :D i'm 8st 10lbs and 5ft, sure im shrinking as well, my feet are size 3 and my friends says they are casters not feet :D

i want a pony that i can share with my daughter, she is 7 years old and half my weight already and nearly as tall as me, even my riding hat fits her :D :D

k8_doran
3rd Jun 2007, 08:12 PM
I don't know, I wondered if falling onto my shoulder (monday before last when I fell off) would have hurt less if there was less weight falling onto it, if you get me! It was very painful and purple!

Anyway, I will be a smaller adult soon, just try and stop me :)


oh laura puuurrrrlease, you arent large at all! No you arent a size zero and good! I spent a lot of money on my little belly :D

Laura+Phantom
3rd Jun 2007, 08:47 PM
Thanks Kate :D i'm on a mission to fit into my size 10 jeans again though! :)

k8_doran
4th Jun 2007, 07:05 AM
Bloomin heck I havent been that size for ages! You know, not all of us are ment to be skinny, its not healthy! well just go steady, i dont think i will ever be a size 10!

puzzles
8th Jun 2007, 11:21 AM
ditto all said to Laura!

One of my friends is a size 18-20, obese but over 6 foot tall. She's bulimic. Another has Anorea and weighs 7 stone (at 5'7-8") and another is Anorexic but was blacking out from starvation at a size 8, which although is skinny it isn't exactly a size 0: it just goes to show, everyone is different and if skinny was good we'd all be it! You can be a skinny size 12 or weigh only 9 stone but look curvacousn (sp?0. Curves oly make you more huggable anyway, that's what's important (to me anyway) ;-)
you see i weigh just over 8 stone and have unhealthy eating tendancies: my mum reckons I'm Bulimic (i'm not) though i'm a size 8-10 and have actually gained weight whilst trying to lose it. I'll eat a scrap one day, then bnge the next so i'll eat only a little the next...or i'll go hungry at school but binge at home, as though the pressure's off slightly or something. i look at people curvier than me and wish i was that slim and gorgous.

so please don't say you want to lose weight - even if it's only a few pounds you want, it'sreally not worth the misery it causes and sensitivity of others.

i'm sure you're beautiful! :-D

Laura+Phantom
9th Jun 2007, 03:58 PM
Um, I don't know what to say to that, I didn't mean to cause offence? Sorry :(

Glider
9th Jun 2007, 04:35 PM
I'm 5ft4 and probably nearing 12 stone (I don't weigh myself but I'm a dress size 14. Not sure if anyone is similar and can tell me what they weigh)


I'm 5ft3 (and a bit!), and trouser sizes 16 at 12stone, 14 at 11stone, 12 at 10stone and 10 at 9stone - it's great, I can tell how much I weigh by what I can fit in to!!

When I'm 9-10st I consider myself a small adult, when I'm over 10st7 I don't consider myself small any more! Both in terms of my actual weight, but also because I feel fat after being used to being thinner!

Faerie Rider
9th Jun 2007, 06:20 PM
I'm a small adult...5ft1" and about 7st 10lb...I've always been small one of those irritating people that eats what they want etc It took having my children to gain any weight as I was 6 and a half st before..but am very light boned...don't have a flat stomach...nice little jelly belly going on..but hey that's what God invented jods for they hold everything in....I have ridden 13.2hh to 15.2hh and I would say that I wouldn't go anyhigher than that at least for a few years!

I think that the no padding comment could be right...fractured my spine on my first fall..:D

lol
FRx

puzzles
14th Jun 2007, 11:59 AM
lol Faerie Rider, for some reason I don't feel like murdering you for that ... :-)

Sorry Laura. If i could delete all that I would.
:-/

Nazdaq
14th Jun 2007, 12:22 PM
I'm 5ft3 (and a bit!), and trouser sizes 16 at 12stone, 14 at 11stone, 12 at 10stone and 10 at 9stone - it's great, I can tell how much I weigh by what I can fit in to!!

When I'm 9-10st I consider myself a small adult, when I'm over 10st7 I don't consider myself small any more! Both in terms of my actual weight, but also because I feel fat after being used to being thinner!

Ditto all that right down to the sizes! I want to be down there again at a size 10....we will see. I also don't feel 'small' at the weight I am now, just short and fat! :p :D

puzzles
14th Jun 2007, 01:29 PM
AH, but is it the long legged skinnies who have the greatest leg power or the short-legged 'uns?
You're fab as you are! If we were all the same then what a boring world this would be.

Nazdaq
14th Jun 2007, 03:30 PM
Yes, very true I love horse riding and would never give it up no matter my size, I hope its motivation for me to not get any bigger and perhaps loose a little. Horses are the best motivation there is.

Keket
14th Jun 2007, 03:52 PM
I'm definitely a small adult. I'm almost 20, and 5'0" and 7st12. I really want longer legs. Any horse over 14.2hh and I start to look midget-like. Although, it is a nice feeling when people are surprised at what I can do despite my small stature.

Soupdragon
14th Jun 2007, 05:52 PM
I think I'm a small adult.

I'm 5ft (ok, 4ft 10 3/4in!!) and 7 1/2 stone. 26" inside leg, find some age 12-13 riding gear fits me quite well, and adult joddies and breeches far too long and the knee patches in the wrong place. I wish I had the sort of long legs that some riders have that just wrap around the horse, instead of poking out Thelwell style 'cos they're too short to go round the barrel! (This is true - I was once given a 18hh Shire X to ride - lovely mare but talk about feeling like a pea on a barrel - and horsey obviously wondered if anybody was actually up there). I am on the hunt for a hacking type jacket - and will probably have to buy a "maid's" one as adult ones are too long in body and sleeves, wide in the shoulder and waist. I take a 30B bra size - and you don't get grown up clothes in that size, but unfortunately I have enough boob that I can't just wear a vest.

I'm slim, but not skinny, and have been roughly the same size since my teens (turned 40 this year). Had a bad patch once when I came out of hospital having dropped 10lbs in 5 days and ultimately went down to 6stone. NOT a good look ... I probably was a size 0 then

I bought a gorgeous new saddle recently and am debating whether I should have ordered child size flaps - as I only have a few inches of leg below the flap. But needed a "grown up" size saddle as my RI schools my pony regularly. Also fed up of punching extra holes in stirrup leathers ... child size ones again too short for instructor who doesn't want to ride in jumping position all the time.

My pony is 14.2hh and someone on the yard said he looks like he's 16hh when I'm on him aboard!

Nazdaq
14th Jun 2007, 08:21 PM
my mother is the same size as you soupdragon :D

Gina789
17th Jun 2007, 08:52 AM
I asked the lady in my local tack shop what a "lightweight" adult was she said nine stone and under so I'd imagine a small adult would be say 9 - 10 stone. And nope don't fit into either of these :( I will be slim and gorgeous (one day) but for now will stip to riding 14.2 cobs ;)