View Full Version : Josh Lyons symposium coming to a stable near me
LMS
4th May 2007, 02:06 AM
Hi guys,
Well as the thread says, Mr. Lyons jr is coming for a symposium near my area. I know of his father, John, have read his magazine & other articles of his over the years as well.
I would really want to go & audit. Tried to see if I could bring Heidi but she didn't fit what their agenda was. It's going to be on reining, so should be exciting.
I was wondering if any of you have been to one of his symposiums/clinics & what you got out of it?
Thanks:)
julia gulia
4th May 2007, 02:15 AM
I haven't seen Josh in person but have seen John many times:) When is it?
LMS
4th May 2007, 02:25 AM
May 25, 26 & 27 in Cumberland (east of Ottawa)
LMS
4th May 2007, 10:45 AM
Bump... anyone else?
KateWooten
4th May 2007, 12:45 PM
I'm afraid .... I can't stand him. I'm used to be into John Lyons a lot, have the ground control manual, various JL stuff. I have so many problems with JL the father - with his method as well as his teaching format .... but at least the old feller has a nice way with the horse. The son, no, I just can't stand him. I can't stand how he rides, I can't listen to his voice. I think if he was holding a clinic in my back yard I'd probably go just to see .... but really not my thing at all.
Keket
4th May 2007, 01:43 PM
Don't know about Josh, but I know many people have complained of John going into religious rants at his clinics, one of which ended with, "If I offended anybody, good". I know I stopped buying Perfect Horse when I got sick of the religious message being pushed on to me.
LMS
4th May 2007, 02:46 PM
Yeah I'm aware of the religious side of it & hopefully I wont want to jab myself with a pen to distract myself from it;) Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti religion. I think every religion is equaly valid, I just don't like someone throwing it in my face when I didn't ask for it & I believe has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
I thought it would be an awsome opportunity to go see a reinning clinic given by someone who is well known & publisized in that area. But if everyone's experiences haven't been good ones, I think I'll save my moolah & book a trip over to see Shadowlark instead:D (waiting for reply from mentioned NR member... wait did she run away & change her log in name? SL hello... where are you my pretty?):D
Soooo, anyone elses experiences?
julia gulia
4th May 2007, 03:22 PM
I've never witnessed John Lyons have a religious rant at a clinic...don't know anything much about Josh. I have the "in a whisper" d.v.d. with Josh..that's it.
As for the Perfect Horse magazine...I get it every month...there is a short message in the front written by John Lyons where he does mention passages from the bible ...which one doesnt have to read .I certainly wouldn't say it is pushed on anyone. I buy it for the horse training info. :)
LMS
4th May 2007, 03:25 PM
Same here JG, if I see something good in his magazine, I buy it & read what I want. Just like with any other magazine.;)
So the dvd is pretty good then?
julia gulia
4th May 2007, 03:53 PM
The d.v.d shows Pat Parreli, Josh Lyons and Craig Cameron work with three untrained horses in competition with each other. It's hard to watch the three of them at the same time on a split screen:eek: :D :...I can barely walk and chew gum at the same time. Josh seems to work very quietly with the horses...doesn't seem comfortable with the camera's though which doesn't necessarily bother me. Each trainer was asked to do certain things with the horses and Josh refused to do some of it because he didn't feel the horse was ready for it.....I liked that. He did win the competition. I wouldn't mind seeing him work in person....however I'll go check out anything that involves hosses:D ..I even like to watch them eat grass....riveting stuff:p
LMS
4th May 2007, 04:03 PM
....however I'll go check out anything that involves hosses:D ..I even like to watch them eat grass....riveting stuff:p
LOL:D me too!
That dvd sounds interesting.
Shadowlark
4th May 2007, 05:53 PM
HAHAHA I totally missed this thread! Crack pot arn't I...
I think it would be worth it for the Reining portion.. I think my PM to you was a little more eloquant.. Josh is more a competitor than dad and it does come out.
Given that out there you arn't as likely to get some big name reiners around to spend the weekend, I think you will probably have fun. We already know you can take things with a grain of salt - so go and enjoy it for what it is
LMS
4th May 2007, 06:19 PM
Aha! Glad I sent the nudge then;)
After being engrossed in the english side of riding for 20yrs, I thought this would be the perfect opportunity to go back to my roots: western.
And honestly, you're right in assuming that good western trainers & clinics are rare in my area.
And I like having my grubby little fingers in a lot of pies because every discipline has their own approach & I can take whatever works for me from all these choices.
And honestly having had the western background has put me a little bit ahead of some of my peers who never had a taste of it. Like a recipe: if one ingredient is not quite right, throw in a dash of this & that & it just may turn out pretty darn good.:D
Shadowlark
4th May 2007, 06:41 PM
take what you can get out of it.. toss the rest in the proverbial can and move on ;)
AND while you are at it.. Pick up Al Dunnings book - it's cheap informative and well put together...
LMS
4th May 2007, 06:48 PM
Al Dunning? I don't think I've heard of him.
Methinks I shall google him unless you know of a site?:D
Shadowlark
4th May 2007, 06:51 PM
http://www.amazon.ca/Reining-Al-Dunning/dp/0911647392/ref=sr_1_2/701-0063489-4996376?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178304660&sr=8-2
Ta **!
I have 4 or so books on reining - his is my fave. Easy to follow well laid out and fair to the horse.
LMS
4th May 2007, 07:06 PM
Just found his website. I thought the name rang a bell but couldn't place him. But have to admit I'm not that familiar with him. Though I'm sure I'll be smacking my head the more time goes on going: "Oh yeah, I remember that!" "That was him!... Oh duh!"
:D
Shadowlark
4th May 2007, 07:09 PM
He's a good ole boy who has won some serious moula reining. He puts the horse first and cares about how tack fits, action of bits etc. and spends a good deal of time on it. He's no natural horseman - but he is a GOOD horseman!
His conditioning/training ideas ring very sound LOL pun intended.. They keep the horse fit, fresh and interestead.
LMS
5th May 2007, 12:51 PM
Oh GRRRRRRR:mad: Looks like I can't go after all. (sits in a corner, pouts & grumbles)
The reining demo is on a Friday... so can't go
The symposium on Sat & Sun is about colt starting & trailer loading. Honestly I'm not interested in learning tricks on how to load a horse, since I can already do that & colt starting?... I already know how to do that to, though it never hurts to see someone elses style & pick up different tactics.
Then from Monday on, during the whole week, it's a rider clinic. So I can't go to that either.
So the two things that I really wanted to audit (reining & rider clinic) are during working hours...:mad: :mad: :mad:
I guess I could go to the symposium after all & gather up the last 4 update hours I need to satisfy Equine Canada & OEF. Meh!
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