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NuttyMare
19th May 2007, 08:57 PM
Woody has been barefoot for 3 months now and still has terrible thrush which have caused cracks in his central sulcuses. I am following my EP's advice (milton scrub every other day) but nothing is really happening. does anyone have any more advice?

Iron Maiden
19th May 2007, 09:07 PM
I've not used it but I hear that Cleantrax is very good to nuke thrush but it's a pain in the backside to use. I've got this soap & balm for P:

http://www.pioneerpersonalcare.com/page4.htm

It's good stuff!

CurlyWurlyRach
19th May 2007, 09:09 PM
i blasted curlys with hydrogen peroxide (the one suitable as a human mouthwash then diluted to three parts water) and the used purple spray everyday - it cleared up in a week or so.

MelanieD
19th May 2007, 09:26 PM
Scrubbing won't really get the milton all the way into a deep infected central sulcus. Soaking is better, borax or milton or a one off soak with clean trax can be worth doing for really bad infection, but IMO the best thing for deep and mingy central suclus is MSM cream, and sudocrem is almost as good. The two sides rub together and cause damaged tissue for infection to feed on and cramming cream in there stops that, as well as being something infection isn't very happy growing in. For really bad infection I'd soak in borax or milton first then dry off and cram cream in there making sure to get it all the way to the bottom of the split.

I've just used the MSM cream on one of mine with quite deep splits in her frogs, after only 3 days of MSM cream they are non-stinky and starting to heal.

NuttyMare
19th May 2007, 09:30 PM
thanks for that :) do you know where i can get some msm cream from?

MelanieD
19th May 2007, 10:07 PM
NAF MSM cream is really good, sold at tack shops etc that have NAF stuff, which seems to be most of them.

Bay Mare
20th May 2007, 05:52 AM
Also have a look at the feed. If the thrush isn't moving especially now it's getting drier weather it may be worth having a look at the diet.

Another thing to try is honey. I've found normal supermarket honey to be fine but others say that manuka is better, it is more expensive though :)

Bobbin
20th May 2007, 06:16 AM
3% Hydrogen Peroxide, available from a chemists, don't bother diluting it. Syringe it straightr into the cracks every other day.

Bay Mare
20th May 2007, 06:57 AM
I personally wouldn't use hydrogen peroxide, NM, read Iron Maiden's post on Hydrogen Peroxide.

http://www.newrider.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95061&highlight=hydrogen+peroxide

rvialls on EE has spoken about it in the past but EE is moving servers at the moment so I can't access it. Have a look later though :)

Dina
20th May 2007, 07:26 AM
Bay Mare with the honey do you just put on the affected parts?
Joe has thrush and I have been using iodine on it but its not been very effective and I have a pot of manuka honey over in the shed.

Boffin
1st Jun 2007, 02:39 PM
Honey was first mentioned nearly three hundred years ago as a treatment for Mud fever and it works similarly for Thrush. The key thing though is it doesn't matter which honey as it isn't some "special" antibacterial that causes its effect! Its actually the sugar! The bacteria and fungi that cause these conditions really need a very damp environment with what is known chemically as "high water activity" - excuse this but I really am a boffin. Things like honey and jam have relatively low water activity because of the high sugar levels, which is why they don't spoil readily in the jar. Even when they do pick up some water what you see growing is a few xerophytic fungi, which are non pathogenic and only grow very slowly. It takes forever for mould growth to happen in decent jam or honey and then its only on the surface. Pathogenic bugs will only grow in it once it has been considerably diluted and hopefully you're cleaning up the feet frequently enough for that not to happen.

One problem, its very messy! Bitless Bridle offer some products which use the same principle but are much easier to use than honey if that's the route you want to try.

katylast
4th Jun 2007, 02:28 PM
I've had great results with a Tea Tree soap and White Line Balm from Pioneer Personal Products. It has done a great job of clearing up the thrush on my boy's feet.

Nik-n-Kia
4th Jun 2007, 02:51 PM
I use cornucrescine hoof disinfectant as it is oily and if you put it on when the hoof is dry you can actually see it soaking in.

You dont have to scrub the hoof before you apply it either. I just picked out his feet, left them t dry if wet and poured it on.

Dont get it on any skin though and it is very strong and can rritate any skin it comes into contact with. It is perfectly fine for any part of the hoof.

Either that or the Farriers formula hoof disinfectant but that you have to faff around with more.

Nikki xxxxx

Tots N Dots
4th Jun 2007, 03:19 PM
when Pickle had thrush I was advised by a barefoot trimmer to add 2 tablespoons of borax to a gallon of water with a couple or so drops of tea tree oil, worked really well :D

showjumper-zoe
4th Jun 2007, 03:33 PM
I'm not sure about that but if ours get a bit of thrush we srub them with water and hibbiscrub then spray them with idoine (preferd) or purple spray. But there are other products on the market eg. fresh frog tried that not really any difference

Alfies-slave
4th Jun 2007, 03:50 PM
After picking out the feet, use a wire brush to get rid of the rest of the crud, burus hevery day as part of your grooming routine.

Apply 'foot rot spray' It comes in a large aerosol from agricltural suppliers and costs about 3 quid. This will clear it up in no time. Continue useing the foot rot spray a few times a week as part of your routine and you will never have a problem again. It costs less than a magazine and all that is needed is 1 squirt in each frog cleft. 1 tin lasts months.

lh-sc
26th Jun 2007, 05:39 AM
Feeding grain that has a lot of molasses in it, what we call here "sweet-feed" seems in my experience to predispose toward thrush. It makes sense, because true "thrush" is a candida fungal infection, and those are made worse by a high carbohydrate diet, especially lots of sugars.

JaffaAndMe
9th Jul 2007, 03:45 PM
My lad hasn't had thrush but he did have contracted frogs. I used sudocream which has helped them. My DAEP has seen good results with people who have used the yellow nappy rash cream - I'm told its slightly different to sudocream.

He also has this absolutely fantastic stuff that is thick and gloopy and really sticks in abscess holes or frog clefts. The results have been fantastic with it. Not sure where you can get it though. He's the only person I know who uses it.