warmbloods

[mikew]

hi guys
just wanted to know if any one here has any warmbloods and if so are yours chunky or fine
my one is just under 18hh and his got 9.1/2 inc bone and extra full size head and 7'3 rug his very well bred but i have been told he looks to chunky for a dutch warmblood what his reg as . his bloodlines are on all breed pedigree
his name is lucifers lullaby
what do you all think does he look too chunky ?
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/biggs-1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/65yt.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/IMG_0805.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/sexybiggs2225x300.jpg

[Cate Ged]

Don't know about being chunky but he is gorgeous :)

[mikew]

thank you his abit of a sod from time to time but his a great jumper and has good paces for dressage just i get bored with that (so not my thing lol)
but we both love xc .

[Palomino Mare]

i wouldnt say he is "too chunky" - far too much horse for me though!:p

i have a belgian wb mare who was very fine when i got her but her body has filled out - she's obviously got alot of arab/tb in her
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/amydalgleish87/tiffshead.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/amydalgleish87/tiffridinghorse.jpg

jerry is a westphalianXholstiner and he ALOT of filling out to do but will never be chunky!
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/amydalgleish87/DSC00142.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/amydalgleish87/21.jpg

[mikew]

they are both lovely .your jerry was the type i was looking for when i got my boy but i just need some thing with hight to it as i am 6'3 so need to hide my legs abit lol.
just when people see my boy they think his a cross coz he looks nothing like his dad but when i went back a few gen's there is some built like him (going back about 50 years iand more )
what do you do with both of yours ?

[Lgd]

There is a huge variation in WB type, particularly as there is a tendency to breed TB back in to refine the produce.

My three girls are all very different.

Peri is AES registered but is actually 7/8 TB, she mostly gets taken for a small WB (she's only 16hh). First pic she is fit and under saddle, 2nd is with her then 3 day old filly

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1500

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16457

Tavia is also AES reigstered but is actually a Russian Orlov x. again only dinky at 15.3hh but quite a little chunk.

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16242

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16480

Belle (Peri's daughter) is only a yearling, so still fairly dinky, she will mature around 16.3hh - 17hh and will probably be a bit heavier than Mum but still quite refined. She's KWPN (dutch)

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16670

ETA You can probably guess I'm into dressage :D although Peri started out as an eventer.

[coss]

i wouldn't say he looks too chunky - i think he is very much in proportion.
my friend has a dutch WB and i wouldn't say she was fine by any means - nots chunky but has bone.

[mikew]

There is a huge variation in WB type, particularly as there is a tendency to breed TB back in to refine the produce.

My three girls are all very different.

Peri is AES registered but is actually 7/8 TB, she mostly gets taken for a small WB (she's only 16hh). First pic she is fit and under saddle, 2nd is with her then 3 day old filly

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1500

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16457

Tavia is also AES reigstered but is actually a Russian Orlov x. again only dinky at 15.3hh but quite a little chunk.

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16242

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16480

Belle (Peri's daughter) is only a yearling, so still fairly dinky, she will mature around 16.3hh - 17hh and will probably be a bit heavier than Mum but still quite refined. She's KWPN (dutch)

http://groups.msn.com/upsaddle2/lgd.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16670

ETA You can probably guess I'm into dressage :D although Peri started out as an eventer.

lol i am not keen on dressage only cos to much for me to remember but i love doing the xc and show jumping .
around me most people have natives so you don't get much chance to see many warmbloods but just by you photos you see how diff they all are .
my gelding is by darco who is a belgian warmblood and his dam is a holsteiner
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/lucifers+lullaby
thats his breeding .

[Palomino Mare]

i love looking at their pedigrees, they are so well maintained - jerrys goes back to the 1600's.

mine are only 15.2 and jerry only came into my hands as he is "disappointingly small" - mean i know:rolleyes:

mike, tiffany is actually for sale, she's on loan to one of the grooms at the yard atm and has been doing eventing and bsja this year. groom may buy her but she lives in czech republic and that a very expensive journey so i'm not sure. tiffany was too spooky for me (you can see me fighting her in the ridden pic) and i wanted to do bsja but she bagan to know that i would get pee'd off with her and take advantage.

i've only had jerry for a year and he had an early bsja career which made him a bit on the flighty side:rolleyes: i've just been getting used to him (as he rides really big and tiff just goes like a pony) we've dabbled in a bit of showing this year but now both of us are injured so i will probably have to start again!

[mikew]

see biggs aka lucifers lullaby used to be very strong and loved to buck but 3 years on his like a dope on a rope and is as safe as houses so much so i let my friends boyfriend ride him around 20 acre field on his own he had never ridden before then. but biggs did not break out of walk lol.
let me know more about tiff as i was looking to buy another for jumping .if your groom does not want her.
she will have a good home and be well spolied and looked after .

[Lgd]

Belle is also part-holsteiner in her sire-line

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/burnside+lucky+belle

Tavia's pedigree is impossible as it is in cyrillic on her sire-line :D

[NZdressage]

Looks pretty normal to me! I have a TB thats is as heavey as that, just not as tall.

PS hes very pretty

[mikew]

Belle is also part-holsteiner in her sire-line

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/burnside+lucky+belle

Tavia's pedigree is impossible as it is in cyrillic on her sire-line :D

lol see i always get confussed how they reg them as a dutch or holsteiner even if they are crossed with another warmblood type .
but i was told its where the horse was born.
yes my horses papers was from hollend i had to have them changed in to english .
it seems to be the ones with holsteiner in them that has more bone by the looks of it .
thanks every one

[mikew]

Looks pretty normal to me! I have a TB thats is as heavey as that, just not as tall.

PS hes very pretty

thank you . wow a tb with good bone i bet he/she is well nice .

[showjumper-zoe]

I have a warmblood but she's crossed with TB. I am sure she's dutch warmblood crosed can't remeber:o But this wooman who thought she was a youngster:eek: (she's 23) thought she looked like she had Oldenburg in her.
Few pics (yes I post the same ones as they're on the front page of my photo bucket album:p:olol)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m222/showjumper-2k6/Cuteness.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m222/showjumper-2k6/echo3jumping.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m222/showjumper-2k6/DSCN1280.jpg
What do you think of her build?

[mikew]

see my friend had a horse just like yours his 15'3hh and a skewbald but he came from polland his a polish tb i can't remember the name but i willask her what it is .
she is a pretty mare and looks great for her age i hope mine look like yours when they get to her age .

[showjumper-zoe]

Haha loads of people are saying they know a horse that looks just like her but I have never seen another that does lol

[mikew]

i know what you mean i will try and get a photo of him for you .
his reg name was some thing kappriss (i think thats how it was spelt lol )
how long have you had her .

[showjumper-zoe]

3 years, i know her breeders

[mikew]

cool do you know her sire and dam and are they all reg ?

[showjumper-zoe]

They are on her passport things. Don't know of the top of my head

[mikew]

ok it took me ages to try and learn my horses breeding so now i just have there sires and dams saved on my phone as people always ask me and i think oh no lol.
now i sound like a geek lol

[showjumper-zoe]

lmao

[herondell]

hello micheal how are you,my kenzo is branded westphalian and that was what his mum is and his dad is a tb,he is filling out nicely needs building his muscles up now this is him a few weeks ago before he started pigging out on the long grass in another field http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t71/Herondell1/IMAG0081.jpg
kenzo not wanting a photo takenhttp://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t71/Herondell1/IMAG0099-1.jpg
and his dad bloodline http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/red+patrick i went through the race horse and my horse is related to shergar.
he can be laid back like a westphalian but some times the tb comes out in him when he wants to be silly,

[herondell]

this is kenzos grandad on his mums side http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/geronimo5
and this is on his nans side
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/madame39
his mum is Gera she is not on there, i think he is like his dad have a look at his photo his colour goes like his darker then light.biggs is looking nice micheal dont think he looks big at all.

[jadeebaby]

i got a few warmbloods, but my lil start atm is my holsteiner.

with ladykiller, marco polo and langraf I bloodlines

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/jadee_baby/schooling/standing.jpg
him last year

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/jadee_baby/schooling/DSCF0160.jpg
in may

hes a very slight build

[NZdressage]

thank you . wow a tb with good bone i bet he/she is well nice .

thanks! I think hes nice, usually Im not a fan of the pure tbs but this guy is very special!! He is just used for dressage, but has jumped, most people think he is warmblood and he is sensitive like a warmblood not silly like a tb.
I think your horse is gorgeous!

[mikew]

this is kenzos grandad on his mums side http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/geronimo5
and this is on his nans side
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/madame39
his mum is Gera she is not on there, i think he is like his dad have a look at his photo his colour goes like his darker then light.biggs is looking nice micheal dont think he looks big at all.

hi kay

kenzo is looking great see unlike biggs his got such a pretty head (biggs has a big manly head lollol)
thanks its only i have had a few people saying they think he looks too heavy too be full but the more i go into his bloodlines i find going back they used to all be solid horses and once they put tb with them or arab they made them more like the ones i am used to seeing doing the dressage etc .
well biggs looks more like his great great granddad what is this one
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&search_bar=horse&horse=OT%20VAN%20WITTENSTEIN&g=5&t=
.how are you ?

[mikew]

i got a few warmbloods, but my lil start atm is my holsteiner.

with ladykiller, marco polo and langraf I bloodlines

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/jadee_baby/schooling/standing.jpg
him last year

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f247/jadee_baby/schooling/DSCF0160.jpg
in may

hes a very slight build

he is very nice his more the same build as my mare
is he tall ?

[mikew]

thanks! I think hes nice, usually Im not a fan of the pure tbs but this guy is very special!! He is just used for dressage, but has jumped, most people think he is warmblood and he is sensitive like a warmblood not silly like a tb.
I think your horse is gorgeous!

i used to own a tb mare when i was younger as one of my first horses and she was only 15'1hh and was a little chunk but never knew what walk was but her and my filly i had last year put me off tb for life lol sorry to say but both was to full of energy and would drop weight at a drop of a hat .

[NZdressage]

yeah, I am not a huge fan of tbs and this one just randomly came along and hes working out to be the best and most talented horse I have above the other warmbloods, but I wouldnt nessicarily buy another tb

[herondell]

hello micheal,im fine thanks how are you,biggs is lovely warmbloods come in all shapes,

[mikew]

yeah, I am not a huge fan of tbs and this one just randomly came along and hes working out to be the best and most talented horse I have above the other warmbloods, but I wouldnt nessicarily buy another tb

i don't think i would get another again but saying that i prob would as i always seem to get some thing i don't go for as i have never been a fan of bays but thats what i have lol .(all ways wanted a palomino )

[mikew]

hello micheal,im fine thanks how are you,biggs is lovely warmbloods come in all shapes,

i am good thanks just hate this weather as never know if to ride or not (biggs don't do rain lol)

[GraceT]

[QUOTE=Palomino Mare;1308969]i
mine are only 15.2 and jerry only came into my hands as he is "disappointingly small" - mean i know:rolleyes:

QUOTE]

Hello
I know this is an old post but I was reading about Warmbloods. My boy was also 'small' he is 15.1 nearly 15.2. Have you got any pix of Jerry to Post? This is my boy, he is our of 'Diamond Hit' and an Elite Graded mare whose name I cant spell!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/gracehollinson/CMEC1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/gracehollinson/Trot.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/gracehollinson/DiamondCM.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/gracehollinson/Trot4.jpg
Warmbloods vary so much as people have said, I think your horse looks stunning Mike and just right! I'd like mine to put a bit more weight on as he muscles up.

[Dancinglite]

Mine is AWS breeding approved from hannovarian/Anglo-arab breeding.

[DarkHorse007]

I don't know about Dutch Warmblood breeding.

However, I could bore you for hours with German Warmblood breeding.
:)

They come in many different shapes and sizes as the 'breed standards' (sorry, don't know the English term) normally specify things like ridability, athleticism and general 'looks' rather than sizes and colours. They may give general advice such as 'should be of a light build' or 'should have a larger frame' or 'should not have a short / long back', 'shoulder should be steep / angled at x degrees' ... stuff like that.
Also, breeding is organised in a very different way - e.g. stallions (and sometimes mares) are kept by the federal states in large studs - with the exception of the Oldenburger, which are entirely privately owned - to ensure that the quality of the horses is kept high and that horses that fulfil the breeds standards are available for breeding (if that makes any sense), breeders have access to good quality sires and so on.
When the stallions are graded for stud they would normally be graded for use in several areas - e.g. a Hanoverian stallion could be used to sire in Oldenburg, Northrhine Westphalia etc. - if it is thought this would refine the local breed in its standards.

So, overall it is no surprise that there is such a large variety... if you take the standard that a 16.3h Westphalian should be just as ridable as a 18h Westphalian.

If you can't get to sleep tonight, try:

www.landgestuet.nrw.de Westphalians - has an English website
www.landgestuetcelle.de Hanoverians - has an English website
www.landgestuet-redefin.de Mecklenburger
www.gestuet-marbach.de several breeds - has an English website
www.landgestuetdillenburg.de Hessen
www.landgestuet-sachsen-anhalt.de Sachsen
www.landgestuet-zweibruecken.rlp.de Zweibruecker
www.holsteiner-verband.de Holsteiner - has an English website
www.oldenburger-pferde.de Oldenburger - has an English website

There are many more if you are suffering from insomnia :)

If anyone is looking for a nice Hanoverian btw, I may be able to get you in touch with a good breeder.

[Skyhuntress]

Nope, they come in all different shapes and sizes.

http://www.hidden-identity.net/arion/ArionBeautiful.jpg
Arion is a 3 year old Hanoverian/Thoroughbred

http://www.hidden-identity.net/costa/CostaSnowPlaying.JPG
Costa is a purebred Holsteiner and THICK jointed (if he doesn't make 17hh+, I'll be shocked)

http://www.hidden-identity.net/storm/Stormy.JPG
Stormy is a purebred Trakehner, but a bit on the thinner side.

Just really depends on the standard of breeds. Hanoverians tend to be a bit thicker then say, Trakehners. We have a Dutch Warmblood at my barn by Ferro who is HUGE (17.3hh) and so thick he looks part draft, and we also have a Dutch Warmblood who is 17hh, but so thin, that he looks like a pure TB. Just depends on the breed and the lines within the breed

[GraceT]

On my boys passport his mother is listed as Trak which is presume means she is Trakehner. He looks a bit like your third picture as well of Stormy

[la society]

i know what you mean, i have a 16hh warmblood, who is much chunkier then my friends dutch warmblood, with larger bone etc,
unfortunatly i dont have any papers for him, but people keep telling me he looks quite well bred,29190

[la society]

please can someone tell me how to add a large picture, as bing thick and cant do it?????

[Palomino Mare]

GraceT - he's the chestnut on the other page but i will post some more for the fun of it;)

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/amydalgleish87/20.jpg

this is him next to 2 16.2 full bred tb's

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/amydalgleish87/DSC00134.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/amydalgleish87/DSC00009.jpg

la society - if you get a photobucket account and upload your pics onto there and then copy the IMG code below the pic and paste it into your post:)

[tikino]

he is so pretty but he does definetaly look like a warmblood.

[marsden]

since lots of people are showing their warmbloods! This is my Belguim Warmblood by Skippy
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i185/Cath555/Voltan-Rockefella%2027Oct07/Dscf1728.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/Nikki_and_Rod/19th%20Oct/SP_A1100.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/Nikki_and_Rod/First%20Week%20With%20Rock/Dscf1245-1.jpg

[J-LennOx]

Ive a dutch wormblood x TB (although i think she has Arab in her, when shes loose or in the feild she looks like a fulllll Arab!)

I Dont think your horse is too chunky at all ! my horse is about the same as yours !..

and the vet told me that shes a great weight for her hight and age etc.
shes only 16.1 tiny compared to yours :O lol

Love Meee xxx

[mikew]

thanks guys

well this is my new boy who has even more bone bless him
questor http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/questor3

sorry about the pics of no hat

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/michael_and_quest11.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/michael_and_quest_21.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/michael_and_quest_31.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/quest21-1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/quest11-1.jpg
you all have lovely warmbloods they are all so diff

i do not know much about my new geldings breeding so if there is any one who knows more about his blood line and don't mind sharing it would be great if you let me know
thanks

[GraceT]

Hi MikeW
Now he looks like a typical WB to me, or what I imagine them to be like anyway rather than mine!
He is lovley

[mikew]

thanks graceT
but i am so used to seeing warmbloods likes yours so mine look like little cobs lol
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/m111.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/m52.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/m31.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/m21.jpg
ria my bwb mare
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/michael1212biggs/m11.jpg

[casey]

Here are mine, Tiff is a Ramiro/Alme bred warmblood. She is 10.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/casey2312/Lesson05081.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/casey2312/NortonHeath039.jpg

Forrest is a Luidam/Argentenus warmblood he is 4.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/casey2312/f5.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/casey2312/NortonHeath058.jpg

[GraceT]

Hi Casey

As I have said before Forest is absolutly stunning ad I hopew when my boy muscles up he will look as good!

Mike - I think mine is too skiny! Someone thought he was a TB at a dressage outing! :rolleyes:

[casey]

Hi Casey

As I have said before Forest is absolutly stunning ad I hopew when my boy muscles up he will look as good!

Mike - I think mine is too skiny! Someone thought he was a TB at a dressage outing! :rolleyes:

Thanks GT.:) Is it hard getting weight on your boy? I dont envy you. We have all had those, total nightmare.

[GraceT]

Thanks GT.:) Is it hard getting weight on your boy? I dont envy you. We have all had those, total nightmare.

No not really, I just want him to look a bit more like Forest! I dont think he is ever going to be really chunky. He has dropped weight since the summer so have started adding sugarbeet to his feed and bought the conditioning chaff instead of normal garlic & herb. I dont want him to get fizzy beacuse he can be quite sharp! He is generally laid back but you have to really ride every stride if you know what i mean?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/gracehollinson/CMEC1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/gracehollinson/Dressage/Lessontrot.jpg