survey...

[Elitra]

hi. i'm a vet student doing a project on nutrient requirements of horses. i would like to post a few survey questions here to help me determine a trend in feeding around the world. but before i do that, i just wanted to ask a bit of permission first, just in case. is it alright for me to post it here? and would you all like to email the answers back to me personally or post back to this thread.

thanks.

[Murphs]

happy to answer any questions - guess it's down to the moderators if it's ok to post - depends howmany posts you makeand howmany responses you get. You could post as a poll but you won't get any dialogue back then. Alternatively, post your question and asked for responses via Private Message

[Miriam]

I cannot see any harm if it is horse related.

[Elitra]

these are the questions. you can email me back personally with the answers, personal message me, or reply to this post. thanks :)

Survey Questions

1) Breed of horse/foal?

2) Estimated weight and height of the horse/foal?

3) Nature of work (for horse) and intended work (for foal) according to
season (eg general hacking during summer and light exercise during winter)?

4) Current location of horse/foal (e.g. Nevada USA)?

5) Estimated composition of daily feed according to season (e.g. 90% chaff
and 10% cubes in summer).

6) Amount of daily feed (kg).

7) Additives added to feed? Why?

8) Additional remarks on why certain feeds are used (e.g. barley to increase
energy of a trail horse).

[Sarah]

hello!

Here are my answers

1) Welsh cob
2) 490kg, 14h3
3) light work - ridden for 30-40 mins 5 times a week - schooling/jumping or hacking
4) Berkshire, UK (south, near to London)
5) 95% grass (she is out 24hrs a day) 5% feed all year round
6) 1.4kg split into two feeds
7) 1 tbsp salt as prone to RER
8) She is fed Equilibra (feed balancer) for mineral, vitamins and probiotics to maintain condition and chaff to bulk up the feed. That is all she gets with the salt.

I hope that was all you needed.

Sarah

[Kerry's Partner!!]

Sorry - it's me again. What is RER? Have you a bigger picture of her? I think she looks quite a lot like Kerry.

Sandra

[elle]

1. welsh cob
2. 15hh 500kg
3. Very light work, ridden maybe 1-2 times a week in summer, hardly at all in winter. I do want to start increasing her workload though.
4. Staffordshire UK (midlands)
5. 100% grass in summer, gets extra hay in winter (kept out 24/7)
6.
7. no shes got very good feet
8. i only feed her grass because hse does hardly any work and is a good doer

[maverick927]

1) New Forest Pony who is 9 years old.

2) 400kg, 13.3hh

3) Competes in summer (SJ, XC, WHP) and does a lot of fitness work. In winter he has a 10 week rest. All the fat has to come off in the Spring.

4) Ballyclare, N. Ireland

5) 50% hay, 50% hard food (oats and cubes) in summer.
100% grass in winter.

6) Hay - 2kg, hard food - 2kg

7) Molasses to make the food test nice and limestone flour to keep his feet in good shape.

8) I use oats to make him go (very sluggish and lazy pony) and use cubes to keep his weight up.


Have a look at http://www.toppony.cjb.net

[HAYLEY GITTOES]

Hi there, here are the answers to the questions:

1- Fell cross

2- 14.2 (sorry haven’t weighed her this year)

3- Hacking, Fun rides and Schooling. (Hour work every nearly every night through summer and winter)

4- Shropshire (England)

5-Feed two kinds of food, summer- hand full chaff, hand full non-heating pasture mix
Winter-scoop of chaff, scoop of non-heating pasture mix.

6-chaff and mix (not sure what that is in KG)

7- Garlic powder and vegetable oil.

8- never used additional feed except sugar beet in the winter to keep weight on the horse.

Hope this is useful (and Wright)



Hayley

[Wally]

Okay.

The Icelandics answers are;
1) Icelandic
2) 375kg 13.2hh on average.
3) Trekking and school work, no more than 3 hours a day at most.
4) Shetland, North Atlantic.
5) In winter grazing only until about January (or till they have lost weight) then haylage. The ones that work will get a feed of about 50%chaff 20%beet 10% mix 20% barley. In summer nothing but grass.
6) Wet weight including the water in the beet & barley 1-2KG
7) Access to mineralised block to make good the local lack of copper and cobalt.
8) Icelandics do not need lots of fancy feed. They do not do well if fed too rich a diet.

[wendi]

Hi
1. NZ TB - he is a 12 yr old gelding

2. 16hh 550Kg

3. Light Work, schooling, jumping

4. New Zealand

5. 24hr Turn out - Meadow Hay morning and night in winter. Hard Feed after being worked

6. Never more than 1 litre feed total made up of straw chaff, bran, unmollassed sugar beet, crushed linseed, sunflower seeds

7. 1/4 tsp copper sulphate, 1 Tbsp Dolomite, 1 Tbsp Wheatgerm Meal, 1 Tbsp Sulphur Powder, Cider Vinegar, Garlic Cloves offered once or twice a week, Sliced lemon offered once or twice a week, seaweed meal offered daily, 5mls Selenium once a week, Rock salt ad lib in the paddock, 1 Tbsp Cod liver oil once a week

8. I wanted to know exactly what my boy was getting as he'd tyed up before i got him, and i wanted to feed a diet that was not pre-prepared

[Nickie]

1) Welsh Cob 12 years old

2) 14.2hh (sorry no idea on weight)

3) Jumping, beginnings of dressage, hacking - between an hour to two hours daily (no rest day - but he is worked very gentlyfor half hour on one day a week).

4) London, UK

5) Winter - 50% chaff, 25% mix, 25% soaked sugar beet and hay.
Summer - 75% mix, 25% chaff, no beet as he is on 24hour turnout.

6) I'm guessing 1-2kgs soaked weight of bucket feed and up to 4 sections of hay a day in the winter

7) Has electrolytes added - loses body salts in the summer through sweating and then he gets very lethargic - have also started dressage to increase muscle tone with him (bending and stretching)

8) no other supplements

[Sarah]

RER is recurrant equine rhabdomylosis - commonly know as azoturia.

Kereping her sodium levels up stops a build up o fthe muslce eating enzyme and keeps her muslces intact. We only found out she had it when she was in hospital with her lameness and had a few routine blood tests. Apparently most horses need to have salt in their diet.

I haven't got any good piccies of Tango at work, but she is the jumping ginger horse in the banner at the top of this page.

bye!

[chev]

1. Welsh ponies (one sec A, one B, one C, one Welsh type)

2. 11.2hh, 12.2hh, 13hh, 13.1hh
Weights, not sure but all in good condition.

3. Sec A not worked (eye injury)
Sec B just started training, one hour 3 - 4 times a week
Sec C not worked, heavily in foal
Welsh type light lead rein probably about 3 hours per wk

4. South Wales (Glamorgan)

5. Grass in summer, hay in winter, mineral lick in field.
Sec C also has 30%sugar beet, 50% chop, 20% stud mix

6. Hay ad-lib from about November till Feb\Mar depending on weight. Sec C having 2 KG feed.

7. Sec C has Farrier's Formula, has poor feet.

8. Stud mix used until foaling, then I'll start cutting it out - mare has had mastitis before we had her so once lactation is established she will just have grass and a small amount of chop as a carrier for the Farrier's Formula.

[Lgd]

I've got two at home so I'll answer for each of them:

a) Peri b) Tavia
1) a) 7/8 TB (other bit is New Forest pony) mare
b) Russian warmblood (Orlov) x TB/Connemara mare

2) a) 600kg, 16hh (very heavily muscled)
b) 550kg, 15.3hh

3) a) Advanced level affiliated dressage all year round, break from competition for 3 months in the winter but training is maintained apart from a short holiday for them around christmas. Some light hacking once or twice a week.
b) Elementary level affiliated dressage, working at Medium level at home. Same work pattern as other horse.

4) a) & b)Sunderland, UK

5) a) 30 - 40% hard feed, 60% -70% roughage (out by day, in at night), gets more hard feed in winter
b) 30% hard feed, 70% roughage all year round

6) a) 4kg at present, usually about 6kg in the winter
b) 2.5kg at present, may get up to 3kg in the winter

7) a) Cortaflex (joint protection for as in high impact work), Benevit (general mineral and vitamin supplement), Potassium and magnesium supplement when travelling and competing (replacement as mares tend to lose these if stressed), Fastrack (probiotic).
b) Benevit, potassium & magnesium supplement, Fastrack. Will be starting Cortaflex this year as her work is increasing now that she has finished growing.

8) a) Use Spillers Response slow release energy mix to give sustained energy levels and because it has a high digestible fibre content. Oats added for extra energy. (she doesn't fizz up with oats). Sometimes add micronised barley in winter if weight gain required.
b) Spillers Response slow release energy mix and SPillers Hifibre cubes. Has had barley in the past when still growing but no longer needs this - gets quite fizzy with it when not in a growth spurt.

Hope this is what you wanted, if you want any clarification or a breakdown of the feed content PM me.

[Elitra]

wow! thank you for the overwhelming response to my survey questions. I didn't expect to have so many answers. Anyway I forgot to add Age to my qns. if you all don't mind, pls post the age of your horse to me as well.

and thanks again

[Alison+Rio]

1. Dutch warmblood, 17yrs

2. 750kg, 17.1hh

3. Light schooling/hacking

4. Central Scotland

5. 30% chaff, 70% mixes

6. 1.5kg

7. Corta flex - he has navicular and arthritis
Garlic - to help keep away the flies
Salt - as he wont use a salt lick!
Super Codlivine Supple Joint Supplement - he aslo has arthritis
Celery - its an anti inflammatory

8. He is fed showing mixes and chaff to help him put on weight and oats to give him a little energy! He also gets apples and carrots.

[virtuallyhorses]

Survey Questions

1) Breed of horse/foal? - 13yo Thoroughbred

2) Estimated weight and height of the horse/foal? - 16.1hh 550kg

3) Nature of work (for horse) and intended work (for foal) according to season (eg general hacking during summer and light exercise during winter)?

- general hacking and dressage - all year round

4) Current location of horse/foal (e.g. Nevada USA)? - Auckland, New Zealand

5) Estimated composition of daily feed according to season (e.g. 90% chaff and 10% cubes in summer).

95% grass (at grass 24hrs) - some chaffhage+sweetmix (soy based high protein, med energy) supplementation

6) Amount of daily feed (kg). - 1kg +/- 4/5 days per week, amount depending upon workrate ie feed on working days only

7) Additives added to feed? Why?
electrolytes, mineral+vitamins - make up for deficiencies in grass feed and help add muscle (reduce fat)

Originally started with Vitamin E + electrolytes to help repair muscle damage, then moved to electrolytes + full vitamin\mineral mix - includes aminos for healthy hooves (biotin, etc)

8) Additional remarks on why certain feeds are used (e.g. barley to increase energy of a trail horse).

both chaffhage and the mix used are high protein feeds - this horse needed to lose weight and regain muscle

[Lucy J]

1) Reg Irish Sports Horse (although 98% Thoroughbred)

2) Height 16.2hh Weight approx 550kg Age 5 years

3) NOt long been broken, currently schooling and hacking in preparation for show jumping/eventing hopefully

4) Basingstoke, Hampshire, United Kingdom

5) 15% hard feed eg coarse mix, sugar beet 15% and alfalfa chaff 15% and 55% Hay in winter. Summer 80% grass 15% hay 5% coarse mix /alfalfa chaff.

6) Around 3kg hay in summer and 6kg hay in winter. hard feed varies depending on work - split into 2 meals morning and night, more concentrates fed in the moring and more fibre at night cos stabled. Probably around 4kg of hard feed per day in winter and less than 1kg in summer.

7) Supplements used - farriers formula, she has terrible cracked feet. Also currently blue chip as she is young to help her build up some top line. Also garlic powder to help keep flies away and to keep blood clean and help respiratory system.

8) sugar beet in winter to help keep food moist and keep weight on. Alfalfa rather than molassed chaff as it doesn't contain as much sugar and is higher in fibre and protein.

6)

[Lgd]

Peri is 13yo (born 24/4/1989)
Tavia is 7yo (born 18/5/1995)

[Sarah]

Tango is 9 years old

[Snib]

Survey Questions

1) Breed of horse/foal? - 14yo Oldenburg

2) Estimated weight and height of the horse/foal? - 16.3hh 700kg

3) Nature of work (for horse) and intended work (for foal) according to season (eg general hacking during summer and light exercise during winter)?

hacking, dressage, local showjumping all year round

4) Current location of horse/foal (e.g. Nevada USA)? - Kent, UK

5) Estimated composition of daily feed according to season (e.g. 90% chaff and 10% cubes in summer).

grass 24hrs summer, ad-lib hay and some haylage in winter - also when out in field
feed just mix all year round - some chaff in winter when stabled to slow him down

6) Amount of daily feed (kg). - 8kg

7) Additives added to feed? Why?
garlic powder for respiratory
cortaflex for joints, or similar - he has ataxia and this relieves the muscle damage done when he's feeling bad and holding himself tense all the time. (recommended by vet + osteopath)

8) Additional remarks on why certain feeds are used (e.g. barley to increase energy of a trail horse).

I feed Balanced horse feeds so I don't have to add straights

[chev]

Sec A is 8 years old

Sec B is four years old

Sec C is 10 years, foaled 13/6/02 so stud mix being cut down now

Welsh type is about 6 or 7 years

[Elitra]

thank you all for replying! sorry i didn't thank you all earlier cos i've been very busy with exams and such.

so, thank you again for the time all of you took to reply.

ps: i want a horse too....

[Bebe]

) Breed of horse/foal?
Cleveland Bay x Quarter Horse

2) Estimated weight and height of the horse/foal?

15.3hh, approx 500kgs

3) Nature of work (for horse) and intended work (for foal) according to
season (eg general hacking during summer and light exercise during winter)?
Spring-Autumn light to medium work - hacking 5-6 days a week, minimum of 1 hour but she does do 2 hours + on one weekend day. Winter = light work - hacking twice per week, long-rein or lungeing 3 days.

4) Current location of horse/foal (e.g. Nevada USA)?

South Yorkshire, England.

5) Estimated composition of daily feed according to season (e.g. 90% chaff
and 10% cubes in summer).
99% grass, 1% chaff (Dengie Hi-Fi Lite) in summer. Winter = 50% grass, 45% hay (in at night), 5% mix, sugar beet & chaff.

6) Amount of daily feed (kg).
Approx 0.25kgs chaff at the moment, don't know about grass intake. Goes up to 3kgs hard feed, 12kgs hay at night in winter, plus whatever grass she gets whilst out.

7) Additives added to feed? Why?
Benevit - vitamin and mineral supplement as she isn't fed recommended amounts of hard feed & grass is unknown quality.
Dried peppermint to help with digestion
Apple Cider Vinegar - to help with flies.
Oil (winter only) - to help keep weight on

8) Additional remarks on why certain feeds are used (e.g. barley to increase
energy of a trail horse).

[Pintaloosa]

1) Appaloosa

2) 860 lbs 15 hh

3) Light work weekly

4) Washington State USA

5) 60% Alfalfa, 25% pellets, 10% beet pulp, 5% wet Cob

6) Don't understand kg...2 lbs pellets, 1 lb cob and beet pulp

7) Mollassas in winter for extra warmth and rice bran in sping to help coat

8) I like beet pulp because it gets extra water into there systems in the winter when they're not drinking a lot. Makes for better "poopies."

[Gemma R]

1) New Forest Mare - 16

2) 13.3hh/14hh (overweight)

3) Schooling and hacking for all seasons (local shows in summer)

4) Kent - UK

5) 24 hour turn out with grazing mask on during day - summer
24 hour turn out with hay - winter

6) Small dinner of slim and healty mix and good do-er chaff only so she can have additives - summer
same in winter but she has slightly more.

7) Devils claw for slight arthritus in back left hock, peppermint to make it taste nice in the summer adn in the winter she has peppermint to help with her dust cough she gets from hay.

8) She has low fat laministis society approved hard feed only. Although she has never had laminitus she needs hard feed for her supplements so I use them so she doesn't get to much suger/fats in the process.

[Elitra]

thanks again everyone. this is to inform you all that i've already finished off my project, and will be passing it up tomorrow.

thanks for all the help and time taken to reply. :))))))))

[HAYLEY GITTOES]

1) Breed of horse/foal?

Fell cross

2) Estimated weight and height of the horse/foal?

14.2 (not sure of weight-sorry)

3) Nature of work (for horse) and intended work (for foal) according to
season (eg general hacking during summer and light exercise during winter)?

Ridden 3 times a week during the Winter and every day during the summer.

4) Current location of horse/foal (e.g. Nevada USA)?

England, Shropshire

5) Estimated composition of daily feed according to season (e.g. 90% chaff
and 10% cubes in summer).

80%- chaff
20%- Pature mix (winter)

one handful of Pasture mix (summer)

6) Amount of daily feed (kg).

not sure what that is in kg

7) Additives added to feed?

Garlis and vegetable oil

8) Additional remarks on why certain feeds are used (e.g. barley to increase
energy of a trail horse).

In winter I use suggar beet, to keep weight on horse

I hope these answers help your, get back to me if there is anythink you need to know.