Best type of cart/trap ??

[Emerald_city]

Well Puzzle has been well driven in the past although hasnt done so for a good 6 years now so getting somebody who knows what there doing a bit more
But i need to get a cart/trap/carriage for him and a harness and need to know some things !

What type of cart would suit him best comfort for him comes 100% first of course ! and also what type of harness with the collar or without ?

Pics of what you think would be ideal too as not 10% with all the lingo ! ;)

Heres some pics of him :

Hes a 14.3hh Welsh cob x
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b75/sarzi321/Puzzy%20wuzzy/puzzle.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b75/sarzi321/Puzzy%20wuzzy/puzzleinhand.jpg

[Alfies-slave]

I would go for a Zilco Classic harness with Empaty collar and a Bennington carriage.

If you are on a budget, a set of Zilco Tedex harness with empathy collar and a Hillam 2 wheeler.

[tazzle22]

agree with the empathy collar, welshies sometimes have low head carriages, powerful shoulders and shortish chests .......... these collars tend to give more room because of the shape and your lad looks as if it would suit him.. Here is Taz in hers to show you what it is ( you said you wanted pics)


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/tazzle22/100_1947.jpg




http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/tazzle22/areweonthebitLOL.jpg



as you can see here she seems to be of much the same build as Puzzle so you can maybe imagine what he will look like in harness


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b89/tazzle22/gettingrevvedup.jpg



the vehicle she is in is an exercise cart.

Love your puzzle BTW .... smart fella with a lovely soft face

[Emerald_city]

Thankyou Alfies-slave and Tazzle22 , thanks for the pics and comments :D Taz looks lovely ! :)

I though more on those lines for harness's rather than the collar but always best 2 check :D

[zola2000]

I would go for a Zilco Classic harness with Empaty collar and a Bennington carriage.

If you are on a budget, a set of Zilco Tedex harness with empathy collar and a Hillam 2 wheeler.
i have this harness and also the carriage for my shetland i love them to bits would recommed them to a starter and they are great if on a budget;)

[Wally]

Hillham seem to be getting a bit of a name in the market for good, well priced vehicles.

Tedex, is good stuff, you can use and abuse it to your heart's content, and it won't hyrt the horse. Keep it clean with a hose or a bucket!

Give Hartland Carriages a ring though, as they have some really well made and desinged stuff in the 2 and 4 wheel range.

[Emerald_city]

ahh right :D thanks alot :) !

[jinglejoys]

I'm saying nothing!! (Chip would never forgive me:D )but I am selling my Hillam
wouldn't get back in a "Trap" if you paid me;)

[Wally]

Don't worry , nobody's going to pay you!

There is a very good reason horse drawn vehicles have evolved how they have. BIG wheels mean an easy job for the horse. Small wheels give a devils own ride. I have yet to find a bicycle saddle that is comfy.

I am not the most moblie person, but I will say that an ordinary horse drawn vehicle with reasonable attention to physics, is far better than a vehicle made with tiny wheels and a bike seat ready to cut you in half over rough ground.


Most horse drawn vehicles, made by main stram manufacturers, have taken a great deal of inspriation from the makers over the last 1000 years, they have not tried to re invent the wheel, that has already been done.

You cannot affectively drive a horse without a seat, foot rest and back rest. You can long rein them perhaps

[Alfies-slave]

He, he, he! I am in the middle of building a Roman Charriot where you drive STANDING! Don't worry, it is for the shetland, not a Clydesdale so any ejection will happen at lower velocity... we took the physics of it all in to concideration;)

[Wally]

Don't under-estinamte the power of two Shetlands starting of.

Tok two tourists out the other day in the waggonette, I asked them if they were ready, they said yes, so I asked the boys to walk on. Two tourists were not ready for the oomph that two ponies moving of with alacrity can come up with, They nearly fell out the back!

[tazzle22]

You cannot affectively drive a horse without a seat, foot rest and back rest. You can long rein them perhaps

ok now I do NOT want to start a war :eek: :eek: :eek: about the different vehicles

but

can I ask you to explain your reasons wally for your statement.... I know vehicles throughout the centuries have developed and adapted them but I thought that past of that reason would be comfort for the driver rather than a necessity for effectively driving the equine perhps even more for certain sports.
thanks

I haven't driven a saddlechariot so cant really comment on comfort or suitablilty for various forms of driving .

Then again I have't driven a fourwheeler either :rolleyes: ...... backstepped but then I was standing :) :D :) :D