Horsinality Charts

[Spoof]

Don't know if they've done much for me, but I've kept doing them for entertainment purposes.

I have a difficult horse, I already knew that. These are all regarding ground work.

Since I started keeping these the biting/mouthiness has been conquered. :D

[Spoof]

I had about 10 minutes to play with him on Christmas day, took some photos.

He sure looked dead over that first jump. I don't send him when I have the camera, he goes over or around them on his own.

Anyone else have Christmas photos to share?

[Bay Mare]

If I were to believe the Horsenality charts (I don't) Saff would be a left and right brained introverted extrovert ;)

I love that third photo :D

[Kecka~Rocka]

ive never seen the charts before, what am i missing???

[Spoof]

If I were to believe the Horsenality charts (I don't) Saff would be a left and right brained introverted extrovert

lol. You can see where we are. Most of those things are relative, and people often look at their horse through rose colored glasses. I had a lady tell me the other day her horse was clever, smart and playful - and it is most definitely not. However, she only has experience with that one horse, can you fault her for thinking that?

I think the goal of these charts is to eventually end up in the center with nothing marked? (I'm not sure, don't have their DVD).

[Lili & Morgan]

Gosh what a charts !!! :D

Yep an interesting, challenging horse, you have. ;)
I saw the sun and i wondered where you were .. Louisiana ... nice and sunny for Christmas.

I like the second photo .. what a horse!

[Peanut]

Never seen those charts before. My mare would definitely be a left brained extrovert. :p

[cvb]

I think the goal of these charts is to eventually end up in the center with nothing marked? (I'm not sure, don't have their DVD).

not quite... the idea is to end up with a horse that has as balanced behaviour as it can do. Which would tend to mean you'd be marking traits as "Mild" (towards the centre) and not all in one quadrant.

The Parellis have commented that the initial charts focused on "negative" traits i.e. bucking etc. Partly - I think- as those are easy to spot. There is apparently now a positive version as well but I haven't had time to go on the website and find it yet...

[gypsygold]

I have been looking at the charts also out of interest and I have heard it said the horse should be more centred and evenly spread. To a point, that makes sense (there are many negative points and the more your horse does it the further out on the circle you mark it) but there are also positive things e.g. intelligent, clever, friendly - why should we want our horse to become centred 'away' from these? I'm sure i have heard the 'parellis' say they should become more centered and the ad on H&C depicts that too I believe. Any one else noticed the same?

Also the positive aspects tend to all fall in the 'left brained extrovert' area so for people like me with a left brained introvert (who likes to make you think hes a right brained extrovert when the mood takes) has no hope of a friendly intelligent horse?

Despite my ramblings I'm not opposed to the idea as such, at worst a bit of fun but profiling your horse is not suddenly a magic key but is an interetsing experiment if nothing else. Human profiling the same.

CVB - emptied your message box recently? have tried to pm you

[gypsygold]

Don't know if they've done much for me, but I've kept doing them for entertainment purposes.

I have a difficult horse, I already knew that. These are all regarding ground work.

Since I started keeping these the biting/mouthiness has been conquered. :D

Forgot to ask:rolleyes:

Spoof - Have you been using parelli during this time? If so did you start parelli with the first chart? Would like to hear more:)

[Yann]

but there are also positive things e.g. intelligent, clever, friendly

I noticed that too and can't fathom why you'd want less of them either:confused:

[cvb]

Despite my ramblings I'm not opposed to the idea as such, at worst a bit of fun but profiling your horse is not suddenly a magic key but is an interetsing experiment if nothing else. Human profiling the same.

CVB - emptied your message box recently? have tried to pm you

Human profiling (eg Meyers Briggs) is about preferences, and depends on the context i.e. you can change depending on your environment, how you develop etc

I don't believe these are any different - a horse may show a preference for a particular type of behaviour but that does not mean they will not show behaviours in other areas of the chart.

As someone else has mentioned - one of the flaws I see with this is that it is the human's assessment of the horse. With human profiling you can both self-assess and have feedback of how other people percieve you. The Horseanility charts are all about how we percieve our horses.

And yes, I've emptied my PMs a bit. I only ever have a relatively small headroom on PMs as I have some I retain. And if I am away from NR for a bit for whatever reason it can rapidly fill !

[Spoof]

Spoof - Have you been using parelli during this time?

Started using the PNH stuff the day I purchased this guy due to conditions he was in. Continued using it due to lack of facilities, and figured why not? My friend as all the stuff. It has certainly been an interesting journey.

This ismy first exclusive PNH horse. I usually use a mix of whatever works for the individual horse, but in the past I've had at least a safe, uncluttered pen to work with.

If so did you start parelli with the first chart?

No. I started PNH with this gelding in November 2006 (see pic below). My friend and I got a good laugh out of thinking about this. The week he was at the owner's he was a solid LB introvert. Boy were we ever surprised after he came home. Nothing on their part, he was simply unsocialized with other horses or humans = danger!!

We did up a chart. I can say around month three the only reason I didn't sell him was because I couldn't. I couldn't send him to the auction, and I could never live with myself if he hurt someone. Here's the chart and a photo from the fourth session at the po's;

[Spoof]

What changed our relationship around month four was my friend suggesting I put him out alone with his best buddy (dominant gelding/leader) and watch them play.

He plays hard, and constantly. He always had gross, nasty wounds on his head and neck. Every day he'd have new ones, because he doesn't give up. His whole world is play fight for dominance.

Once I figured that out, it gave me some light at the end of the tunnel.

Photos of a few different moves he'd use on us and other horses. Neither had any injuries at the end of this session. No worries! I am further from them than the picture makes it out to be. :)

[Lili & Morgan]

WOAW this is impressive that you manage to get him from where he was to the last chart you showed in your first post!

Have you got any ideas, why he is like this? Any traumas? Any abused?

My gelding had many scars on his chest neck etc ... when I bought him he had been "put in his place" so was a big right brain introvert. My mare would bully him too. But with some TLC, he turned into a very left brain dominant horse, and he used to walloped my mare. Everyday they were together, she came back with some bites ....


So yes, horses change their "horsenality" according to their handling and environment.

Thanks for the photos.
I think in this case, the horsenality chart serves its purpose to monitor change of behaviour in a horse.

Thnaks again for sharing :cool:

[KarinUS]

I haven't heard about those before either but I found some to download here: http://files.parelli.com/HorsenalityChart.pdf
So we all can try it out too...

[gypsygold]

Thanks spoof for the additional info. Sounds like you have your handsful - or certainly did have.

I have completed the chart for my boy but although he tends to be more of a LBI he is very good at showing LBE tendencies if he gets the chance and thinks he can promote himself:rolleyes:

I am planning on working on some groundwork with him. I have done quite a lot of MR based groundwork in the past but would really like some structure to follow. I would say my boy needs a strong leader otherwise he will gladly be it, although cant be bullied or intimidated because he will do the same right back at you.

I think as you have used the charts in your case spoof they are a good indicator to show progress made or lack of:o! - lets hope not.