What colour is my foal? Sire now been DNA tested

[No_Angel]

Found a recent ad for my fillys sire, it says he now now been DNA tested and it says he is ee/AA chestnut carrying bay/brown, and he also carries a dilute gene.

Dam is a buckskin.

Both parents have appaloosa markings.

My filly has gone from a very light almost palomino colour, to a bay/liver chestnut colour, now to a very orange colour, with the darker colour in places. She is starting to get white hairs through her markings.

Is she still classed as chestnut based?

Vet is coming to fill in passport for registration on Thursday so would like to know her colour.:)

Pictures might be useful!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/madams_walk/Caoimhe/PICT0062.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/madams_walk/Caoimhe/PICT0064.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/madams_walk/Caoimhe/PICT0071.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/madams_walk/Caoimhe/PICT0002-8.jpg

[Anro]

ask chev they know all about coloring

[No_Angel]

Thanks, I was hoping Chev, or other people who know about genetics/colours would see this thread and reply:)

[Rowerss]

She looks a bit like a strawberry roan but Im not certain. =]

Definition of a roan:
The body is coloured with white hairs ticked through the coat. The colouring on the body can be any colour and different names are often given depending on the base colour. For example a Chestnut Roan is referred to as "Strawberry Roan" and a Grey Roan is referred to as "Blue Roan".

[No_Angel]

Just to make it clear, it is only her base colour I am looking for the colour of, she is a few spot:)

I think I have been told before she isn't a roan as her sire and dam aren't roan:confused:

slightly closer views
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/madams_walk/Caoimhe/PICT0030-1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/madams_walk/Caoimhe/PICT0031-1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/madams_walk/Caoimhe/PICT0029-1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/madams_walk/Caoimhe/PICT0032.jpg

[chev]

In the pics she looks chestnut based. Only way to know for sure is to have her tested for the cream gene, to be honest, but on the strength of the pics I'd say chestnut based fewspot. She looks like she might actually shed out as a snowcap, if that neck and shoulders get any darker.

Problem with Appies is they change so much!

[No_Angel]

great:), ill still have her classed as a chestnut few spot.

[White-Blazes]

No idea what colour she is, but I must say that black horse in the background looks very much like both my D girls:)

[No_Angel]

thats because shes a registered welsh section d :D

[White-Blazes]

thats because shes a registered welsh section d :D


thought she might be, tell me more, name,breeding etc just in case she is related:D

[No_Angel]

shes called Corlan Llinos.

heres her breeding:D
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/corlan+llinos

[White-Blazes]

She shares a few relatives, Derwen, Parc, Cahn, Brenin etc

[ShariN]

If she is Appy... her coloring is called, "Varnish" roan.
This is like regular roan, with two exceptions: The roaning extends onto the head of the horse, and there are colored (nonroan) patches on certain parts of the head and body.

So "Chestnut Varnish roan appy" is the full mouthful.

[imperial]

If she is Appy... her coloring is called, "Varnish" roan.


can we have a recent picture ?

[No_Angel]

of my filly?

The most recent pictures I have don't show her body.

If she was roan, wouldn't she be born dark and then lighten with age?
She was born the colour she is now, apart from the chestnut is darker now.

[chev]

Varnish roan is a progressive colour, like grey. And yes, they start off base colour and gradually lighten.

She is a fewspot, no doubt.

[greasedweasel]

I'd say chestnut few spot (very similar to my boy!!) Is dad Redhot Spot? I'm confused by the "dilute" gene comment on his DNA testing - would like to see colours of foals and colours of dams for all his progeny just out of interest.

Just as an aside my lad is suppost to have had a dilute foal (from a non dilute dam) and I think its just the LP gene that makes some foals look dilute when they are not.... that said if all my foals come out palomino and buckskin I won't be devastated!!!

She's cute for sure!

[No_Angel]

Yes her sire is RedHot Spot:)

I am thinking she is more liver chestnut, she has a perfect little streak through her mane (a bit like a fjord) that is defiantly looking liver chestnut.

Got the vet to put chestnut few spot, which he seemed confused by,lol.

[imperial]

Yes her sire is RedHot Spot:)

I am thinking she is more liver chestnut, she has a perfect little streak through her mane (a bit like a fjord) that is defiantly looking liver chestnut.

Got the vet to put chestnut few spot, which he seemed confused by,lol.

I think so :)

[No_Angel]

Chev you were right as well, she seems to have a few more spots appearing where her baby coat is coming off (around her muzzle at the moment)

[Dogrose]

she looks like what they call a varnish roan (I love the colour!) apparently you get two genes interacting with appy colors, the spots are separate so you can get an appy with the roaning associated with it (there are a few different types of roan, only one of which is actually roan!) but no spots which is different to few spot. Its confusing so I might have got it wrong, I think genetically to get a few spot the horse needs to be homozygous? So both parents must be appy of some form or other, which I think you say they are. (If there is one thing I have learned about horse colour genetics is the rules can and do get broken which can confuse things further).
She does look chestnut.
I thought all dilutions in horses are dominant so a horse either exhibits it or isn't it, and can't carry the gene without it showing?
Anyway, reckon few spot is probably right, she is pretty :)

[chev]

Most dilutions are dominant. Cream is an incomplete dominant (so you get more dilution with two copies), silver can hide in chestnut and cream can hide in black, which can make for some surprises!

Appaloosa is believed to be a complex of genes rather than just one. One (Lp) is the spotting pattern; it governs whether or not the horse is spotty. And just to confuse it, two copies of Lp means fewer spots than one... Then there's PATN1 which governs the expression of white (blankets etc). It's this complex of interacting genes that makes Appaloosas a bit unpredictable.

[lauraandharvey]

my friends foal was like this
he turned into a skewbold
then lost all colour so hes grey now :|

[laceyfreckle]

now i've found some pics of the appaloosa i used to ride i can put them on:) May not help you much but i think she will turn out colour wise a bit like this chap .....not sure what colour he was registered as but he was a well known appaloosa stallion aged about 6 maybe 7 in these pics (i think)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t40/laceyfreckle/danishblue2.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t40/laceyfreckle/EBAY102.jpg

[joanne1920]

she looks like a few spot appapaloosa(sp?) to me!

[No_Angel]

she is a few spot, was just trying to work out her base colour :)