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jumpjaky
2nd Feb 2008, 06:36 PM
is it any good. i tried a bit of it off the tv and jack seemed to understand it has any1 got the succsess series?

[Have corrected your spelling in the title and moved this to the Natural Horsemanship section - you'll get more replies there!
Esther (moderator).]

Meovcorz
5th Feb 2008, 04:55 AM
I really don't think any one on here actually has the success series, people were talking about it when it came out.

There are better allternatives I believe, there was a thread posted recently and a few peeps have given really good answers on there. I'll just give you a link for that.

http://www.newrider.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1561799#post1561799

wonkeywoody
5th Feb 2008, 11:01 AM
There are lots of 'different' NH styles out there. Each person has their own ideas about each one - same as views on traditional teachings.
I'm following Parelli as I find the course the best one out there, however, had seen other style DVD's / articles etc, and have taken on board the different ways to get to the same result.

Carmen
5th Feb 2008, 11:50 AM
I have the sucess series. Its just a box set of all different sections. eg - hacking out, liberty, freestyle, flying lead changes, calm ride etc etc.

I started parelli as i once had a horse! She was so difficult to ride that no-one could stay on her. If you'd walk on the grass verge, you were off! If a hedge got in her way she was over it, five bar gates etc etc. I tried dressage by having a grand prix instructer out and she couldn't handle her. So i thought about retiring her and putting her in foal ! But she wasn't due to come into season till March and it was October, someone had said to try Parelli, with four months to spare, i thought why not. After playing just the friendly game for 5 minutes i saw a complete differnce in her. After studying Parelli for 2 years i was able to do sliding stops, gallop through fields, jump with control, and we had our first fun ride (which was a fun ride) all this (except the fun ride) was done bareback and bridleless aswell as in a saddle and bridle. We were connected again.

Unfortuantly my horse died of a broken leg. I now have another one and use some of the principles on him but he is so calm, sensitive and as people say easy, that i just enjoy happy hacking on him now.

If you do decide to try it, don't give up at the first hurdle. Your horse is trying to tell you something, try and read him and understand why he did what he did. Horses are very sensitive and forgiving animals, they only really do things for a reason, we just need to know why. Shame they don't talk isn't it!

Good luck

jinglejoys
5th Feb 2008, 12:22 PM
If you are really serious about learning I'd say forget the success series and go for the Level1/2 packs.
I have the Success series but it really is a "Readers Digest" version.
All I can say is its working on my boy Malaga (No longer Mad Malaga:))

gypsygold
5th Feb 2008, 12:32 PM
I agree with jinglejoys. The sucess series is a useful addition but is not in depth enough to learn from scratch.

Definately go for the level 1, 2 etc rather than the success series. It is quite a 'slow start' - a few hours of stuff before you go near a horse but I have found it a great help with an appy with appytude but you do get out what you put in;).

Meovcorz
7th Feb 2008, 08:36 AM
but I have found it a great help with an appy with appytude but you do get out what you put in;).

Appy with a appytude, I like that :D.

Don't love Parelli, have found better basically I do a mix. Mind you, I have found two guys I really like, but still am searching for more styles to mix in, though have never worked with an instructor......yet.............

Sorry hadn't realized anyone on here actually had it.

annareeves0
5th May 2008, 12:58 PM
Have just bought level 1 & 2 (older version) from a fellow NR and am very excited about it arriving next week or so - will let you know how Im going in a few weeks but in the meantime how are others getting on with it?
I am pretty worried about that transition from the groundwork (Not too bad with this bit) to riding (awful at this bit!) - am hoping it has lots of useful tips etc.
Just to confuse things I am having a 'Monty Roberts' NH instructor come out to help me also! i need someoone hands on to look at tack etc for me amongst other things. As the weeks go by I am realising more and more what a newb I am!
Am planning to kill or cure her with kindness!

newforest
5th May 2008, 01:42 PM
i bought the partnership pack.
i have the sucess series not watched it yet. everyone learns in a different way so some of us like to watch, some like to read. i wouldn't dismiss it, we are all at different levels as well.

mustang mo
5th May 2008, 04:35 PM
I am very pleased with What I have achieved with my horse- We were both Green -and over about 2 years- I have gone thru some good things-We are at level 3 -Jess

wonkeywoody
5th May 2008, 05:55 PM
Re your comment about the transition from groundwork to ridden work.
I started P cos I couldnt ride mine as he had developed a vertical rear (long story)
I noticed a fairly immediate change in him with the groundwork and it did cross my mind as to whether I would be able to get back on. I cant really explain it but I 'just knew' when the time was right. Like Mustang I'm now at level 3 - started P about a year ago.

Bay Mare
5th May 2008, 06:04 PM
is it any good. i tried a bit of it off the tv and jack seemed to understand it has any1 got the succsess series?

I, personally, don't like Parelli for various reasons though I have used a mix of IH (Kelly Marks), Mark Rashid, Michael Peace, Richard Maxwell and clicker. I tend to do clicker more than anything else these days as I've had a lot more success with it and a much happier and more enthusiastic horse.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

LodgeRopes
6th May 2008, 02:08 PM
Anna,
"I am pretty worried about that transition from the groundwork"
No sweat, when your packs arrive, start with the 7 games in order but really concentrate on the friendly game and getting soft lateral flexion, these two become important in the saddle.......both develop communication, trust and control. The ground work just moves into the saddle, then you find out what bits need a little work, so back onto the groundwork to get it sorted.
The older 1 & 2 level packs were probably the better editions as they asked for a certain level of proficiency before moving on..and that is important.
We started when there was just the book...lol but now have 3 different sets, just sort of collected them over the years, and do like the early versions (pre DVD series)
As already stated in the thread, the success series lacks the depth of the levels... I liked the readers digest comparison jinglejoys :0)

cheers all

annareeves0
6th May 2008, 09:09 PM
Perhaps i am jumping the gun as my stuff hasnt arrived yet but the two things that jump out at me immediatley are 1) how is the friendly game different from a good groom? I would still be touching all over in a purposeful, friendly, pleasurable manner? Perhaps the info I had on the friendly game was incomplete???? 2) how is a 'carrot stick' different to a lunging whip (as I have one of these) surely a stick with a rope on the end is a stick with a rope on the end (she will accept it all over incl ropey bit over her back etc)

Having seen the TV programmes I am getting a bit cocky already and seeing what I can get away with - led her across the field with just a lead rope laying over her neck to see if I could, and I could! Hmmm, have to stop myself getting carried away and wishing for a trick pony!

LodgeRopes
6th May 2008, 10:45 PM
Anna,
A good groom can be a part of the friendly game, but a grooming alone may not suffice unless it is done with the intention of concentrating on relaxation, rhythm, approach and retreat, desensitization. Rhythm is an important aspect of rope work that needs to be developed and the 1st game helps, well it helped us.
Training stick & string,,,some love them, others consider them a ridiculous waste of money. I personally fall into the latter group but still pick up a carrot stick and use it, a lot. I am yet convinced of any benefit to the heavy training stick, would love to hear other forum members thoughts on this..??

Sharon & I have different thoughts on training & tack, but agree that parelli is a good easy start into NH and provides a base for communication with other horse people.