Why are schooling whips not allowed in SJ??

[joey_olop]

:confused::confused:Question in title, not sure whether it was a safety thing or something??

[palmerlover52]

I think it's because they're more *whippy* as suich, and your more likely to accidentally tap your horse with it....and with some horses this can send them a bit loopy :o

Not sure though, don't quote me! :D

[horseygal90]

I think it's because you can give them a sly tap with it - Whereas BSJA rules state you can only use three taps of the whip, it's too easy to 'accidentally' tap them.

[palmerlover52]

I think it's because you can give them a sly tap with it - Whereas BSJA rules state you can only use three taps of the whip, it's too easy to 'accidentally' tap them.

Well now I never knew that. My new thing learnt today ;)

[xloopylozzax]

i always thought it was because you were more likely to knock the jump off accidentally if they were longer :o

[horseygal90]

Well now I never knew that. My new thing learnt today ;)

That could be completly wrong. :p

[xloopylozzax]

hehe i dont do jumping, just thats what i thought :confused:

[~*sugarlump*~]

i agree with both points.
could be as you could give a sly tap, or could knock fence down.
this isnt really a proper reason, but you just don't jump with schooling whips, i don't know why. but actual SJing whips are shorter than normal size crops anyways (something i've noticed in my many hours in tack shops :p)

[joey_olop]

Ive just looked in the rule book & it doesnt actually state why they are not allowed.......may have to e-mail them & ask :D

Horseygal-I think your theory would be right tho, makes sense, but think I would rather a couple of short flicks, than a good smack with a crop :)

[katefarmer]

I always understood it that because the schooling whip is long and whippy, it's also potentially very severe. It's designed for refinement, and to just touch or flick the part of the horse you're asking to respond - not to give it a slap. Thus it is suitable for dressage and schooling, where the rider should be as still as possible, especially the hands, but may want to encourage a hind leg to activate, for example.

Jumping is more animated, and the rider is more mobile. If a jumping rider needs a back up to he leg, it's generally to send the horse forwards, so a shorter, stiffer whip is better, that will give a slap, rather than a cut. With the greater movement of the rider in jumping, the chances of unintentionally hurting the horse with a schooling whip would be much higher. A long whip would be quite difficult to control while moving at speed over fences and with the associated hand movement.

[jumpjaky]

depemds what show and the rules they have. im not sure your aloud them in bsja im not to good on the whip front my pony is too speedy without a whip!!!:D

[StormyJ]

You can give any number of slaps down the shoulder, but only 3 on the quarters which I actually think is a bit unfair - you might give 2 slaps and get a refusal and need 2 more to get over! :p