Grey Roan

[JOJOBA]

How do you tell a true grey roan?
Would they have the bay head...?

Interested in a 'grey roan' pony (not seen a pic yet) but do NOT want anything which will white out!


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[chev]

If it is grey roan, it will eventually go white!

If the body is grey but the head is not (ie bay or black or whatever solid colour you like) that is true roan.

If the head is grey, it's on the path to whiteness I'm afraid...

[JOJOBA]

If it is grey roan, it will eventually go white!

Oh no! Thought roans didnt white out? Or is 'grey roan' a fake colour?

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[chev]

Roans that also carry grey will white out, just like any other colour and grey.

Grey roan is a term that seems to be applied a lot to horses early on in the greying process - but the one main difference between roan and grey is what colour the head is. If the head is grey, it's a grey.

[Werehorse]

Sounds like a trick to me. :D

(not directed at you Chev... just a crosspost :p)

[JOJOBA]

Good to know, thankyou ;)

xxx

[Wally]

Chev, did we decide he was a true grey roan?

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f177/sprimble/100-0039_IMG.jpg

[chev]

Yes, he's either black or dark bay roan - if he was greying out, that head would have greyed first.

[Wally]

Certainly no greying on his little nut.

Snoggin the Snogg, on the other hand, is greying out on his forhead really scarily quickly, he will be a little grey person. and he's not a year old yet.

[Iron Maiden]

Booohoooo!

Look at Mrs P - pix taken about 2 years apart

Before:

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o233/rancidprong/oldpee.jpg

Now:

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o233/rancidprong/expectant.jpg

:(

Wouldn't swap her though ;)

[vikkig]

does the same rules regarding greying out go for chesnut roans? i didnt even know you could get them till i bought mac and vet said he was chesnut roan

[Iron Maiden]

Don't think so - it's the grey gene that kills the pigment producing cells off somehow. Chev knows all about it!

[JOJOBA]

Is P blue and white or grey and white?

Do blue and whites grey out too? Or only grey and whites?

(or are they the same thing?)

I have my eye on a lovely blue and white cob - dont fancy him going all white though!

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[Iron Maiden]

As far as I know, blue + white & grey + white are the same. The girl I bought P from said she might be roan + white and might not bleach out, but clearly that's poo :rolleyes: Worst thing is the white tail, which won't change :)

[joanne1920]

i was under the impression a pony that i has at least one grey parent will either be born grey or go grey unless a more dominant gene over rides it? I thought Bay was dominant followed by grey???? sorry if im wrong, my shetland id very very dark bay, her mum was grey or dad blue roan??!!

[chev]

It's not whether a gene is more dominant over another - that is not how it works. A foal born to a grey parent only goes grey if that parent passes grey on. If the parent has only one copy of grey, there's actually a 50% chance the foal won't be grey.

Grey is a dominant gene in the sense that if a horse has grey, it will be grey.

It is not 'more dominant' than other genes.

Mrs P is black and white, with at least one copy of grey, which is slowly turning the black patches to grey. She will end up white.

Blue and white is usually used to describe a grey and white.

A true roan with no copy of grey will stay roan; their bodies roan out but head and points don't. A roan who also carries grey will grey out same as any other colour would.

[JOJOBA]

Okay, so another horse Im interested in is an odd colour, but I would classify him as Blagdon (my favourite).

(I can PM you a pic if you like Chev)

Do they stay the same colour?

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[chev]

Blagdon is usually the result of sabino roaning; if that's the case, yes, they stay the same.