Help! Cortaflex!

[LauraLou]

Decided to try Luka on Cortaflex, but didnt realise there were so many kinds! Is the liquid better than the powder? And whats the difference between Cortaflex and Cortaflex HA?

Also there seems to be a few different companies making Cortaflex, which is the bets one that everyone raves out?

TIA! :D

[Roofio]

Equine America make Cortaflex, lots of places sell it. Couple on ebay are probably the cheapest.


I think the idea is that the liquid is more easily absorbed but am not 100% on that one. Cortaflex HA has added hyaluronic acid - not really sure what that does though apart from make it more expensive and white instead of green :o

i really like it - can see a big difference in my lad when he's on it :)

[puzzles]

Super stuff! What does the Hyaluronic Acid specifically do?

Table: Comparison of Cortaflex and Cortaflex HA with ExtraFlex HA


Regular Cortaflex Powder mg/kg Cortaflex HA
mg/kg ExtraFlex HA
mg/kg
Hyaluronic Acid 5,720 5,720 1,250
Glycine 10,000 26,400 2,416
L-Glutamine 10,000 20,000 2,416
Glucuronic Acid 5,000 15,000 1,250
L-Proline 3,100 19,000 750
Glutamic Acid 3,000 10,000 750
Manganese Sulphate 2,850 2,850 867

[nelle]

Super stuff! What does the Hyaluronic Acid specifically do?

Table: Comparison of Cortaflex and Cortaflex HA with ExtraFlex HA


Regular Cortaflex Powder mg/kg Cortaflex HA
mg/kg ExtraFlex HA
mg/kg
Hyaluronic Acid 5,720 5,720 1,250
Glycine 10,000 26,400 2,416
L-Glutamine 10,000 20,000 2,416
Glucuronic Acid 5,000 15,000 1,250
L-Proline 3,100 19,000 750
Glutamic Acid 3,000 10,000 750
Manganese Sulphate 2,850 2,850 867

That's totally over my head :confused::)

[puzzles]

Sorry. i didn't know it would come out so disorientated. It shows the differences in ingredients when HA is added and compares Cortaflex and Cortaflex HA with another product).

Please just ignore it! :-/

x

[vikkig]

i dislike the behavourial problems cortaflex can give horses so i went for a cheaper version that had a money back as you know its going to work then

its called equiflex by healthspan. and we have a horse that used to be on liquid cortaflex on it and she is better on equiflex

our vets told us that feeding Hyaluronic Acid doesnt do anything it only works if injected into the effected area.

[RobaDob]

I have my 13 year old mare on cortaflex powder, she has one full scoop every morning, and it has made SUCH a difference to her well being all over, being ridden etc etc.
I swear by it tbh, as my prev. pony was on cortaflex after a tendon injury and she also had severe arthiritus, she was as right as rain after being on that.

[carthorse]

I've never known anyone have behavioural problems from using Cortaflex, what problems have you come across Vikkig? I suppose I could understand it if someone thought they had a very quiet horse but it was just stiff all the time & the Cortaflex gave it a new lease of life but I wouldn't say that was a behavioural problem.

My experience of Cortaflex (the standard green stuff) has been very good & I found it works far better than the Newmarket Joint Supplement that my vet recommended. Mind you we didn't have a real problem to begin wirh, just taking a while to warm up & feeling very hard ground a bit in the summer though the latter would be less of a problem if he didn't play around galloping & bucking so much in his spare time :rolleyes:

[vikkig]

[QUOTE=carthorse;1645398]I've never known anyone have behavioural problems from using Cortaflex, what problems have you come across Vikkig? I suppose I could understand it if someone thought they had a very quiet horse but it was just stiff all the time & the Cortaflex gave it a new lease of life but I wouldn't say that was a behavioural problem.

one of our mares started behaving shall i say oddly towards other mares on the yard. she would go mental when tey were passing her stable and would even mount them in the field, her owner sent the cortaflex to the vet to be looked at and it has some sort of hormone substitute in it, the other horse we had problems with was a sweet little ponie that was a just a little bit stiff on the back end, we started giving him cortaflex and he turned into a monster, it was the only thing that had changed in his diet and routine and he started launching over the door biting people and would not let you in the stable.

we have other horses that there is no side effects but they are already nutters. but the sweet nice ponie's and horses go horrible.

both of the horses/ponies have gone back to there normal self when we have taken them off it.

[carthorse]

That's interesting & certainly a new one to me! Just goes to show you learn something every day :)

[LauraLou]

Thanks guys, I got Cortaflex in the end, not the HA one.

Now though, someone has mentioned to me that its bad for Lamis? Is this right?

[FinkleyAlex]

not that I know off, my lami is on it and would be incredibly stiff without it!

[GingerPony]

Personally I would have said forget the Cortaflex and go for Naf's Superflex.
It has higher levels of Msm, and glucosaime which is needed in the joint supplements to make any differences.

[carthorse]

Personally I would have said forget the Cortaflex and go for Naf's Superflex.
It has higher levels of Msm, and glucosaime which is needed in the joint supplements to make any differences.


Maybe, but Equine America claim that the glucosamine in Cortaflex is more available to the body & what's important is how much can actually be used. As with most supplements I guess it's just a case of trying a few until you find one that works for your horse & hopefully doesn't hurt your pocket too much :)

[puzzles]

I think the Equine America liquid version is faster to trake eftec which is why they use it itially then move on to the powder, especially for severe joint problems, but the powder is better long term ... though I don't know why.

x

[sheer bliss]

The normal green tub cortaflex is the standard stuff for stiffness, the HA is more designed for horses that have arthritic changes, you can either feed it continuously or feed a pot or 2 and then go back onto the std cortaflex, if possible.
HA is also great for horses under competative strain eg eventing, high level dressage, show jumping to help protect the joints from wear, all of ours have cortaflex, even from 2 yrs old to protect them in the future

Equine Americas cortaflex, is cellularly different from other suppliments as it contains smaller cells for a quicker and more efficient absorbsion into the body

Cortaflex is OK for laminitics depending on there triggers, the normal green tub cortaflex contains a little alfa to make it palatable, and the liquid contains molassis to once again make it palatable - out of the two, I'd feed my lami the powder, as in my mind its less likly to cause a problem

The behavioural issue / hormones in cortaflex is new to me, I will ask tomorrow when I make my next order - We have 2 yrs olds - 30 yr olds on cortaflex, rigs and sweet, cuddly neds and have never had a problem:confused: I doubt you vet was right with the hormones, there would be no reason for them to be in there:confused:, its more likely in my mind to be a sensitivity to an ingredient, I'll ask anyway;)

Jill