Should i show her?

[oinkmoooink]

Im not sure whether or not to do some showing with my section d this year, if i did it would probably have to be in hand because shes still learning to canter (despite being about 12), or with ym RI riding her.
Do you tihnk she would have any success in either? i asked on another forum a little while back, but im still not sure, though everyone was lovely about her
A few weeks ago she was in really good condition, but since going back up to 4 ponies, i avent had time to ride her, and driving in a field not in a school is ruining my back so im back to not being able to ride much....but thats beside the point.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o121/oinkmoooink/crysrachel.jpg Thats her with her owner when she was doing endurance (doesnt look so muscley now!)
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o121/oinkmoooink/Picture1799.jpg Last year with my RI
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o121/oinkmoooink/crysscanter.jpg A few weeks ago cantering with me

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o121/oinkmoooink/020jpg.jpg And a conformation shot- she had come straight in form the field.

Any confomational problems you can spot? shes registere and everything...
do youthink it would be worth taking her to shows? Considering the effort it wouod ake to bath her with her water phobia :D

[TheHoglet]

ooh you could do!
she looks pretty enough, nice trot too by the looks of it!
all you can do is try her, even if you just do the T&T imo it gets judged pretty harshly at some shows i.e the judges only go for the showy types not the cute likkle plody cobs :D
its a good introduction to the showing world if she hasnt done it before and if you can get placed in there then its probably safe to say shes good enough to show :d

i think she is anyway she looks loverly! :D

[xloopylozzax]

yes shes lovely, good luck :D

how far on the way to learning to canter is she? if its nearly there stick her in some ridden classes for experience (even BTO).

if she doesnt canter then its not the end of the world at a local show, you wont win but that doesnt matter, aslong as shes well behaved and does everything else you ask;)

[oinkmoooink]

I havent been able to ride her for a few weeks, but when i was riding her a lot, its taken a year, but shes going straight into it no, and almost alway on the correct leg, she tries really hard and even does flying changes if she gets it wrong.
But its keeping it up which she finds hardest, im getting better at it too now, as before, i only really cantered her on hacks, and in the school, it can be so like boxed i and unpredictable it was really hard to sit to, but were managing 20m cericles, which is a hige improvement for her :D but only one at a time!
With my RI she can just about manage a circuit without breaking, but its really hard work even for her, and shes done stuff like badminton.
I will upload and then post a video of her cantering later on this evening.
But thankyou, my RI said she would do a cople classes on her, she wasnt really schooled befor she came to us, bad start to life, awful driving accident, sold at auction and didnt know what her legs were for, then did endurance, then was out of work for a few months hen we got her- shes been schooled at osme point in her life, shes sowing glimpses of remembering it now!

[xloopylozzax]

not all horses in the show ring get the right leg all the time (take a look at county shows etc)

at least she knows when she gets it wrong which is good, lots just motor round on the wrong leg!

maybe wear spurs to give your legs some more 'oomph' to push her on with?
can she manage a 20m circle in trot?

[LindaAd]

She's a nice looking horse, yes, but whether you win or not depends on who else is there on the day .... and on the judge. There are no guarantees; I think if you go in for a show thinking that it's not worth while unless you come home with a rosette you're likely to be disappointed ... In any case, there's a lot more to showing than just turning up with a nice-looking horse; there's how you present it, how you ride it, how you get it fit - and, like everything else to do with horses, that only comes with experience.

[palmerlover52]

I agree with the others...plus, in the words of Dr Pepper....What's the worst that could happen? :p;)

[Daffy Dilly]

Give it a shot. Better to get a couple of nice canter strides than to try and force a circuit out of her.

You can always do inhand and then pop on for a ridden class later on if you feel like it.

[oinkmoooink]

To be honest i dont go to shows to win- my ponies arent good enough quality! A cople of my shetlands would be really nice when in condition, but they are too young to really be working properly, and im not sure aobut mysection b, hes not registered.
Im not a show rider really, and crystal (this one) isnt a sow pony, but id like to try it ou,t but dont wanna get laughed out the ring :D

She can trot for england, her trot was faster than a lot of horses canter when she was doing endurance, and tohugh she only really knows working trot, its very nice most of the time- she can extend when we go into canter, but yeah. I dont trust myself with spurs, i dot go in for kicking horses, but i tihnk shes a tad to resonsive to stuff like that, and im not experianced enough, and my RI hates them! We sometimes carry a cople schooling whips, but again i dont want to risk doing the wrong tihng.
We took her to one showlast year, came last obviouslt because she couldnt canterand my show was dreadful (everyone said you didnt need to do one to me, but alas, we did), but the judges were nice about her and said we should definatly breed form her, so i guess hteres not too much wrong with her...
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o121/oinkmoooink/th_046avi.jpg (http://s119.photobucket.com/albums/o121/oinkmoooink/?action=view&current=046avi.flv)She does some niceish canter at the end of this link, my riding isnt as clumsy as it looks there! It was windy and she was pulling a bit. I have a beter video buts its taking forever to upload!
I had been hoping to do some dressage on her eventually, but driving has sortof taken over, and her canters taken forever, because shes had some time off, shes stiffened up and is finding it really hard again.

I was wondering whether she would be more suited to in hand or ridden, someone said that they tend to have to have a lot of look at me factor for in hand, as theres less you can do to improve it...but then i know more about in hand

[Thistle]

She's a lovely mare, have a go!! I'm sure you'll both enjoy it and BTO is a good place to start ridden classes, you normally just walk. One thing though, in affiliated M&M you're not allowed to use spurs!

[xloopylozzax]

the canter she does do is nice (and on the right leg):)

if you focus on doing a few good strides like daffy dilly said and go from there, you'll soon be doing a long side then coming back to trot to go round short side, if shes a tad unbalanced she will find it hard going round corners, which is why she slows down i think.

does she canter well on a hack?
if yes then try turning circles and stuff when she doesnt think she is working (cos shes out playing and having fun)

we trick the youngsters and the ones who really should know better it cantering by doing this, also by doing cross poles and stuff when schooling so they speed up and 'fall' into canter after the jump.
aslong as you put the aids there (outside leg behind girth etc) she'll soon learn its easier than she thinks ;)

if shes been driven, she will have been taught that cantering is the work of the devil and should be avoided at all costs! (unless it was scurry stuff)

as for inhand, shes a mare so the look at me wont be as pronounced anyway compared to a stallion or yearling. as long as she moves straight and is obedient then you should do well as she has nice conformation.

did i notice a prophets thumb mark on her shoulder? my mare has one of those :D

ETA- the spur suggestion was for home schooling to push her on a bit, not for in the ring, once shes supple and stuff you wont need them, but since you dont want to use them theres no problem anyway ;)

[stella_belly]

if you trust her then go for it

[oinkmoooink]

Thankyou everyone
OUt hacking she does canter well, she loves cantering uphill, which gets her working :D but we havent really got any big open field to go in which arent covered in flints, when hacking, i brought her back form a pc rally once last year and had a quick canter around our field, but she gets quite excited, i really should hack her out more, she lvoes it, i hate it!
My riding insturctor has said its easier for her to do it on a circle, and i think she does find it easierlike that, shes at home now and up the road thees a really big arena so more space for her to practice.
shes good with her candtering with jumps, well now she is, she used to get really excited, now she does a cople nice strides in, a cople nice strides out and voila, unless its too small then she tries to bowl over it, and because of that my instructor keeps them really small, so i only get higher than 2'' whe im with friends- but its something which needs to be sorted.
I think that her driving thing is why she finds itso hard, and wleshies tend to find it hard anyways, when she was broken im pretty sure most peple were still of the thouhgts that cantering is a terrible tihng to do in a cart! Sometimes she still seems really surprixsed by what shes doing. But i dont ighnk she was driven very long before her accidnet.
and it might be a prophets thumb mark if i knew what one was....is it a good tihng :p

[xloopylozzax]

lol its the dimple on her shoulder, i have always considered it good we had 2 horses with them.

its some superstition thing ;):D

we have welshies (d's and c's) and they dont have any trouble cantering and they have lovely canters full of expression and movement!

my mare hasnt been schooled for ages (last summer :() and we struggled to get canter this week. put up some jumps and shes suddenly able to do it :rolleyes: when you have done the jump, keep the canter and try and come round for it again (or another jump) or just get to half way trot, then ask for canter again. they get quite excited but soon pop into canter as soon as you tell them to.

that or figure of eights, canter short sides, trot diagonal, they get complacent (been a welshy i take it she is clever and tries to second guess you :)) and go into canter on (or before) the corner.

just make it fun, laugh and really push her on gallop long sides every so often so she sees it as 'exciting' and is raring to go.

[Sarah-Lou :)]

I agree with whoever said the Dr. Pepper thing..whats the worst that could happen!
It'll be good to get her out and about..even if your not too successful it'll still add some variety to her day :p


SL x

[oinkmoooink]

just make it fun, laugh and really push her on gallop long sides every so often so she sees it as 'exciting' and is raring to go.

Thats what i worry about! Because she CAN go
Also why i bring her back to trot between fences- she gets over excited
bless her

Conformationally, a lot of welsh cs and ds find it hard to get sued to the action of a canter, its why theyre so good at trotting.
ut then A LOT of them have lovely cnaters

Coincidently- i have an in hand show on monday with a cople of mine, with an in hand bridle, would a section B gelding need a bit? Im not sure if i have a showable one for him in the right size, but i never need one with my shetlands...

[xloopylozzax]

no i dont think, never shown a b have you tried google?

[oinkmoooink]

Its not specific, ill see if my shelands rubber bits fit him with the bridle tomorrow, hes got the sae seized motuh for driving bits, we have a jointed snaffle in the same size as his drivng bit, but its huge, wheras his liverpool fits.
Ill see if 4 1/4 inch fits, she will probably be fine, but he can get distracted and forgets theres soemone standing in front of him sometims- first sjhow with him :eek: but he is quitw a pretty boy...or i think so :p