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ForestGump
14th May 2008, 08:16 PM
I've found a dutch gag which is double jointed and wondered what everyone thought about this type of mouth piece? Is it any good for a small TB mouth?
Help I'm really confused and all this talk of bits is making my head hurt!:o

ForestGump
14th May 2008, 10:05 PM
bump, please give me some advice!:o

XmeganX
14th May 2008, 10:58 PM
it depends what your looking for in the action of the bit?? do you need all the leverage that a dutch gag can provide or would something less severe suit are you looking for a compact mouth piece or a particular type of action from the bit???:):)

ForestGump
15th May 2008, 10:17 AM
Basically I need the leverage of the dutch gag but Forest has a small mouth and I think he is rejecting the action of both eggbutt and french link so I wanted something milder. I was told that the double jointed ones were kinder on that type of horse and wondered what everyone else thought?

lauraandsolo
15th May 2008, 10:41 AM
:)Just a thought for you, but my Solo (also TB with a tiny little mouth!) sounds like Forester in the way that he doesn't like that action of a french link or single joint.

Solo is very strong- I have tried numerous bits- dutch gag, pelham, mullen mouths, etc. The only thing I can actually safely hold him in is a double bridle- fine for when we're showing and hunting, but I don't like using it everyday.

That is, until I found this-

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x238/lauraandsolo/509d.jpg

It's a loose ring bit, with a double joint- but has copper rollers on, so Solo can't lean on it, and the copper also helps them relax in the mouth as it helps create saliva, and is made of sweet iron- which is warm in their mouth. It's proper name is a 'scrub board snaffle' although Shires market it as a french link copper roller or something. It's not a french link- the middle part, that has the rollers on, is quite thin. It cost me £13.

Although Solo is still a bit strong, I can hold him in this bit, and last night, jumped him around a course in it.


If you want anymore info, PM me! :D

ForestGump
15th May 2008, 10:48 AM
Thanks for the advice, I have just ordered the dutch gag with double koint though.
He doesn't lean on the but and is acceptant of the bit until you take a half halt and his head goes up. The bit he is in just isn't strong enough though, he can just ignore it when he wants to go.
I'll see how this bit goes for him but if it doesn't work then I will look into that bit lauraandsolo :D

XmeganX
15th May 2008, 03:39 PM
is acceptant of the bit until you take a half halt and his head goes up. if he tends to bring his head up and he is avoiding the bit i would be reluctant to put him in a gag because it will raise his head further it is a leverage bit??:o you obviously know him best and bitting is trial and error but its just an observation!!:D