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luffers
7th Jul 2008, 04:00 PM
My boy has was diagnosed with mild laminitis last week. We believe it is due to a twisted shoe he had. I got the farrier out who removed his other shoe (twisted shoe fell off) and he had his feet trimmed.
That night I noticed that he was lame and everyone at the yard thought he was slightly foot sore, the next day he was still lame and I could feel a digital pulse so I called the vet straight away.

My question is will he always be prone to laminitis and will I always need to monitor his grazing?

doris
7th Jul 2008, 04:42 PM
My vet said to me that once a horse has laminitis, then he will always be prone to it, if it was due to metabolic problems/grass that is.

I know about laminitis caused by too much grass, and toxic laminitis which perhaps a mare may have after foaling, and concussion laminitis caused by too much fast work on hard ground/roads.

However, I'm not sure about the cause of the laminitis that your horse had. I don't think I've heard of a twisted shoe causing laminitis, so perhaps you'd better check future management with your vet.

Big Ears
7th Jul 2008, 04:56 PM
i don't get the connection with the shoe either.

if he is laminitic then you have it for ever, it doesn't go away, you have to constantly manage the condition. if he was footsore because the shoe had slipped and the sole was bruised, different issue.

if it is laminitis then needs to be off grass at once as could have another attack.

luffers
7th Jul 2008, 06:32 PM
As he was lame in all 4 hoofs I would assume that it is not the shoe causing him to be foot sore as he was only shod on the front.

I'm so confused as the vet seemed alittle uncertain as well. She did say to stable him on deep shavings for 2 weeks, but he became so distress with being stabled that he became aggressive and dangerous, so a different vet said to put him back in his paddock but sectioned off so he is very restricted and there is little grass in the part he is in.

I've got the vet coming back on wednesday to check him, so I'll ask them, it's just I didn't get a direct answer the first time so I got even more confused as everyone at the yard said he shouldn't be stabled and they felt he was just sore from the twisted shoe and the trimming.

I can't understand why the farrier didn't detect lami when he trimmed him at lunchtime.

xloopylozzax
7th Jul 2008, 06:44 PM
i dont think this sounds like lami, its not anything to do with shoes or shoeing.

are you sure he isnt just a bit sore from too much horn been trimmed off?

luffers
7th Jul 2008, 07:22 PM
I think this is what i'm hoping. Hopefully a different vet will come out to see him that maybe more knowlegable.

Debbi G
7th Jul 2008, 08:44 PM
Its uncommon for all four feet to have laminitis. Whatever is this problem, he needs bloodflow to his feet. Checkout www.equinescience.co.uk click on Nitroxide to find out how this works.

Nookster
7th Jul 2008, 08:54 PM
For me personally loosing my last boy to lami that went misdiagnosed from - torn suspensory, to fracture etc i personally wouldn't risk it and would box if there is even a suggestion of lami. Depending on severity the last thing i would want is to have the moving around.

In answer to being prone - im great believer of all horses being prone if they have or never had it. My last horses wasn't diagnosed properly as supposedly he was the 'type'. Was quite an eye opener and treat my new horses as laminitics yet never had an episode.

With shoes it could well be abscess but would be thinking more for the foot that lost the shoe?

Hope your boy is gets better soon and hope you vet is able to shed some more light

luffers
9th Jul 2008, 06:43 PM
I had the vet out today and spoke to my farrier.

My farrier said that he did cut Mac's hooves quite short and without seeing him said that he feels that it could be this.

My vet said that they can't say for sure that it was lami and that it could have been the farriers trim, but we decided that we would continue treating as lami too be on the safe side. She said that his was still a little sore in his left front hoof so he needs to rest for another 2 weeks before being slowly brought back into work. She also said that she doesn't necessarily think that he will get it again in the future, but as I said earlier if i treat him as having lami therefore it may return then i should hopefully keep him safe and free in the future.

Thank you to everyone who replied, I was really concerned about him I love him soooo much every day I look at him and can't believe he's mine, he's such a special boy and the thought of him feeling poorly is so upsetting.

luffers
27th Aug 2008, 08:07 AM
Just thought I'd give an update.

Mac saw the farrier yesterday who throughly checked his feet and said what good feet he has got and that there is no sign what so ever that Mac has ever had Lami.

I think he had been though quite a stressfull time and was footsore.

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