This is why I would never ever eat horse meat...

[S.J.C]

DO NOT READ IF EASILY UPSET!!

http://www.viva.org.uk/campaigns/horses/index.htm

:mad::mad::mad:

Rest in peace beautiful horses. I hope all those people choked while eating that meat!

[twigs]

disgusting:mad:

theres nothing else to say:mad:

[~*sugarlump*~]

I'm not saying I agree with it, but what about all the other animals that we eat that have to go through the same treatment?
I personally hate live transport, but we can't stop the fact that horses are slaughtered for meat, we can just make it more humane.

[S.J.C]

I'm not saying I agree with it, but what about all the other animals that we eat that have to go through the same treatment?
.

Yes, a large % of animals are tortured and have miserabilelives before they are slaughtered inhumanly
That's why I'm vegitarian. ;)

[vimto92]

I'm with sugarlump. It IS disgusting, and it DOES need to be improved drastically, but lets not forget it isn't just horses that are succumbed to this treatment. :(

[twigs]

I have a link as one of my signatures that everyone should watch, i dont mean everyone here, but in general...
even the treatment of factory bred diary cows is appalling, would put you off milk for life:mad:

[S.J.C]

, but lets not forget it isn't just horses that are succumbed to this treatment. :(

That's right. :)
Pigs, chicken, cow, duck.... the list goes on.

Wana see for yourself everyone?
Check out the viva website.

[S.J.C]

I have a link as one of my signatures that everyone should watch, i dont mean everyone here, but in general...
even the treatment of factory bred diary cows is appalling, would put you off milk for life:mad:

Gawd, don't get me started on this topic!! :mad:

[horseygal90]

I tend not to listen to propaganda...

[ElvisFan]

Gawd I wish I,d not looked at those pics. Poor poor horses.

[flinglebunt]

I have not opened the link left by the op, I don't need to because I have seen and heard enough of the disgusting things that are done to horses such as when they are crammed into trailers in Rumania and driven to factories in Italy without rest. Drivers are still smashing the legs of horses with iron bars so they can claim they have horses in urgent need of attention at the border crossings and get waived through quickly.

Propaganda? ...... Makes me feel bloodywell ashamed to be part of the human race. Beleive what you will but this happens to 80,000 horses a year from Rumania alone. Enjoy your pastrami ..... through a strange quirk in the law it will not say horse on the label.

[S.J.C]

Gawd I wish I,d not looked at those pics. Poor poor horses.

Sorry, I should have put up a warning. :o

[martini55]

I have a link as one of my signatures that everyone should watch, i dont mean everyone here, but in general...
even the treatment of factory bred diary cows is appalling, would put you off milk for life:mad:

Earthlings is one of the most heart-wrenching documentaries I have seen in my life, definitely food for thought! :(

[duchy]

Slaughter isnt the problem. There is nothing wrong with eating horse meat, live transportation is the problem.

For this reason I think it is terrible that they have banned horse slaughter in USA, so the horses now get to travel thousands of miles to different countries where the laws and regulations mean the horses welfare is not considered. If we still have slaughter houses in the USA then many of the horses would have a much nicer end- nothing wrong with slaugher if done correctly. I would happily try horse meat if I knew it had not been subjected to miles of live transportation and had be slaughtered humanely.

[Gem at heart]

I'm really hoping that one day this world is going to be a kinder place to be. Seriously that is just CRUEL. :mad:

[Luna Corona]

...Enjoy your pastrami ..... through a strange quirk in the law it will not say horse on the label.

Is this true, pastrami is horsemeat :eek:

I don't eat meat, but I work in a place where we buy it, and slice it on a machine for customers.

BTW, I just googled it and the first two sites say it is beef.

[Barney9]

Slaughter isnt the problem. There is nothing wrong with eating horse meat, live transportation is the problem.

For this reason I think it is terrible that they have banned horse slaughter in USA, so the horses now get to travel thousands of miles to different countries where the laws and regulations mean the horses welfare is not considered. If we still have slaughter houses in the USA then many of the horses would have a much nicer end- nothing wrong with slaugher if done correctly. I would happily try horse meat if I knew it had not been subjected to miles of live transportation and had be slaughtered humanely.

Totally agree...apart from eating horse i just cant do that lol...

[cloudandmatrix]

i feel absoloutly sick- that is the most disgusting and upsetting thing i have see for a while- almost reduced meto tears. those poor poor horses. what a way to go. i eat meat, but would never subject an animal to that cruelty- i eat free range happy chickens!some people deserve to be slaughtered themselves, dothey think a horse cant feel it when their hooves are cut off? the worst bit was the being alive when killed. retched and sickening...

[*IcyRider*]

God thats just made me cry,cant bear things like that.Just makes me think of all they went trhough and ohhh,its horrid :(
No you didnt mean it hun but i do wish people wouldnt put stuff like this up,it's so hard to see :(

[chickitta]

Gawd I wish I,d not looked at those pics. Poor poor horses.
I wish I never looked too :mad: Absolutely awful.. those poor horses:mad:

[dessert_storm87]

That's disgusting :mad::mad::mad:

[twigs]

Earthlings is one of the most heart-wrenching documentaries I have seen in my life, definitely food for thought! :(

I found it hard going, and had to cover my screen on laptop at certain moments

[S.J.C]

God thats just made me cry,cant bear things like that.Just makes me think of all they went trhough and ohhh,its horrid :(
No you didnt mean it hun but i do wish people wouldnt put stuff like this up,it's so hard to see :(

Sorry sweetie :(. I've put a warning above the link.

I didn't mean to upset anyone. :o

[IrishDQ]

live export is horrid for all animals, I was only talking to a guy today who used to work driving cows to the continent and he quit because the conditions they were transported in were so bad, he couldn't stand being a part of it any longer. factory farming is horrible too and so many so-called animal lovers still buy cheap chicken and eggs etc.

[Shansberry]

I agree with duchy. Completley stoping slaughter is not the right thing, but the inhumane way its done must. Before we go comletely putting a stop to horse slaughter we have to think of what te consequences. All the unwanted horses that couldnt be slaughtered would be abused, people who cannot afford to feed them, and cant find a new home and will just leave them to starve to death. I would rather them be put out of their missary than to see them suffer. But I cant stand it when regulations are not followed and horses do suffer during there deaths.
So although just the thought of slaughter makes a piece of me die inside, I dont think completely stoping it was the right thing to do , and i am angry at the U.S. for doing so (make us canadians look like the bad guys). Changes DO need to be made!:mad:

[Joyscarer]

Oh yeah, changes need to made so that all animals are farmed, transported and slaughtered compasionately.

Now, how many of the disgusted people on this thread are actually doing anything more practical about it?

I'm disgusted but other than ensuring that most of the meat I buy is ethically raised and the occasional donation when someone happens to be rattling a tin and I have some change I'm not actually doing anything practical and being 'disgusted' is ineffective.

Is anyone on here actually doing anything to promote change? If not then this will continue and those being complicit are condoning it by their inaction. Stark truth that I myself accept.

It takes the extreme sections in our communities to actually affect change.

[lottie.dot]

I'm with sugarlump. It IS disgusting, and it DOES need to be improved drastically, but lets not forget it isn't just horses that are succumbed to this treatment. :(

Yes, but let's not forget half of us who are making these comments are infact Vegan or Vegetarian.

[vimto92]

Yes, but let's not forget half of us who are making these comments are infact Vegan or Vegetarian.

I am confused as to what point you are making...? :confused: (having one of those days:rolleyes:)

[lottie.dot]

Oh yeah, changes need to made so that all animals are farmed, transported and slaughtered compasionately.

Now, how many of the disgusted people on this thread are actually doing anything more practical about it?

I'm disgusted but other than ensuring that most of the meat I buy is ethically raised and the occasional donation when someone happens to be rattling a tin and I have some change I'm not actually doing anything practical and being 'disgusted' is ineffective.

Is anyone on here actually doing anything to promote change? If not then this will continue and those being complicit are condoning it by their inaction. Stark truth that I myself accept.

It takes the extreme sections in our communities to actually affect change.

Me, Me Me.... I drive everyone nut's but I shop and do EVERYTHING pretty ethically - well to the best of my ability. If I know about it and it's bad I do not do it.... I research and spend time so I know more and more. I have gone from buying anything to a 360' change around... Even things like wool, silk, products tested on animals (which I might add, is probably everything in all of your houses, you would be shocked if you new!). My next thing is products from China. I feel my shopping days are over!!!xxx

Oh I also, do lots in terms of filling out online stuff (ie, petitions letters etc) I also give to about 4 charities) And these people who had the link, Viva I have emailed in saying that can I do anything to help with in as in volunteering. Which was actually a while ago now and I have not heard back, so I need to be calling again.x

[gingermonkey]

I was in France recently in one of their big supermarket chains and I noticed that all their horse meat, including cheval sausages came from Uraguay.
I truly believe whatever the livestock, it should be as killed quickly and humanely and the use of live transport outlawed.

[lottie.dot]

I am confused as to what point you are making...? :confused: (having one of those days:rolleyes:)

Actually no you are quite righ to be confused. I am too and I wrote it! (doh! to me)

Well I thought and I now know I am wrong - that the person I had originally quoted was saying... Don't get angry about this when you eat meat that suffers the same... So of course I said, well lots of us don't eat this meat.. but that's not the point she was making I think (now after reading it - too quick with my fingers I think) So I do apologise for my hasty post!
I hold my hands up - sorry.x

[SarahandSolomon]

I thought i would read some of the comments before i opened the link..
and i'm glad i did with some of the comments that some members posted.
I decided not to read it, i would just get too angry and upset :mad:

I bl**dy hate the way some poor animals are treated *takes deep breath*
i really don't know how people can do it :( EVIL!

Vegetarian for 5 years now, ever since i was little + asked my mum in the car one day how chickens were killed.

and i'm glad to say that i am a vegetarian for life, the thought of eating meat actually makes me feel physically sick.

[ArcticShowjumpa]

:mad: how completely terrible, so so sad :( :( rip poor creatures xx

[midnightmare]

it is sick but I agree, other animals have to endure this horrific act of cruelty :( I suppose horses are much closer to my heart than chickens and cows.

[vimto92]

No worries lottie.dot :)

[twigs]

Oh

Now, how many of the disgusted people on this thread are actually doing anything more practical about it?





I have recently joined ARNI (animal right Northern Ireland) unfortunaely i missed my first protest due to a silly band parade that held up traffic (I was there but the organisers werent:rolleyes:)
I have since changed eating habits and intend to be involved in any awareness demos:)

[sjmcc]

DO NOT READ IF EASILY UPSET!!

http://www.viva.org.uk/campaigns/horses/index.htm

:mad::mad::mad:

Rest in peace beautiful horses. I hope all those people choked while eating that meat!

iv seen footage before but never as bad and in depth as that im with make a noise sort of heard about viva so going to be looking into a bit more of that n see if a donatation n sighning of eneything can help i cried and my OH HAD TO WALK AWAY he couldnt watch i watch n make myself watch because it makes me aware of whats going on in the world its all to easy to play blind to it but it goes on and needs STOPPING FULL STOP ITS JUST VILE

[Sexy Sietske]

I dont understand what attracts the meat trade to thin/sick/old animals. Surely injured stressed animals will produce poor quality tough meat, and obviously alot less of it if they are skin and bones.

IMO it would be in the best interest in whoever is benefitting from the sale of the meat to ensure the animals are of a decent weight and have a stress free 'process' as possible to produce the highest quality of meat.

There is no excuse for this kind of thing happening anywhere to any animal... its just pure ignorance and people trying to skip corners to earn as much money as possible, as quickly as possible, while spending very little.

I know I would much rather pay the extra money for cruelty free sourced meats... knowing they will be of better quality, than save a few pennies myself and fuel the carnage in that link!

[Samantha1980]

I watched the video and was disgusted by it. I have nothing against eating horse meat but agree that live export must be stopped.
The video is 10 years old. I would be interested in seeing more recent information to see what/if any changes there have been.

[abisheridee]

Slaughter isnt the problem. There is nothing wrong with eating horse meat, live transportation is the problem.

For this reason I think it is terrible that they have banned horse slaughter in USA, so the horses now get to travel thousands of miles to different countries where the laws and regulations mean the horses welfare is not considered. If we still have slaughter houses in the USA then many of the horses would have a much nicer end- nothing wrong with slaugher if done correctly. I would happily try horse meat if I knew it had not been subjected to miles of live transportation and had be slaughtered humanely.

Agreed.

[katie11]

very sick

while i dont disagree with slaughtering... its necessary - the way its done i completely disagree with.....

its allabout money - which is why they dont pts the animals before transporting them...

[Monika]

I do not agree with eating horse meat but I do not judge anyone who likes that kind of meat.
I think all animals should be killed in most human way and as close as possible to the place they are kept.
I have got one of those horses and her filly and I would not swap her for any other horse. I do not regret I got her and I love them both with their ups and downs. Please do not judge me, it was my decision after hours and hours of research on web.

[Jenbee]

I found it hard going, and had to cover my screen on laptop at certain moments

Same here, i just watched it and cried, some parts are utterly horrific.
I've been vegetarian for a long time and this is the exact reason why, I find it unbelievable that humans can have this little respect for animals.

It's so true when it says If people had to kill their own meat, almost everyone would be vegetarians! EVERYONE should watch that video and then decide if they want to carry on eating meat IMO... :(

[rougemia]

I understand that animals are slaughtered for meat but what these animals go through is unbeliveable, I took on a rescue horse that was destined for slaughter with her 4 week old foal and like monika its the best thing ive ever done, not one split second have i regretted it, my heart goes out to the suffering that some of those poor horses go through!

[nat17]

I agree with the comments that slaughter done well is fine. I think there are lots of guilty partys when it comes to bad conditions and bad slaughtering, reasons why horses end up there as well... one of them being indesrimnate (sp) breeding.....:(

[Gruntfuttock]

Is this true, pastrami is horsemeat :eek:

I don't eat meat, but I work in a place where we buy it, and slice it on a machine for customers.

BTW, I just googled it and the first two sites say it is beef.

No, its NOT true. There are types of salami made from horse and donkey meat, but trust me, ordinary supermarket salami in this country is NOT made from horsemeat. Pastrami, even the cheap stuff, is made from beef.

[S.J.C]

Jesus! I just saw the footage.... (I didn't see it before) It made me cry so badly. :(:mad: How can people do that? How can they f*ucking do that.:mad: I hate what the world had become. I hate humans... I hate myself for being human. Not fu*cking way I'm ever paying any money to any government. If I have to be homeless and be a traveler, so it be. I know the vids from Poland but the whole fu*cking worlds involved in all this animal slaughter sh*t.

Man I'm mad.....

[vimto92]

Not fu*cking way I'm ever paying any money to any government.

Bit extreme?:o

[xloopylozzax]

Bit extreme?:o

ditto :rolleyes:

this is why i personally dont take vegetarians/vegans seriously, they are so OTT about everything!

[lottie.dot]

ditto :rolleyes:

this is why i personally dont take vegetarians/vegans seriously, they are so OTT about everything!


LOL.. What?? You can see S.J.C was just horrified from watching this video (I didn't want to watch it) - I don't think 'us' Vegetarian/Vegan are OTT about anything.. I think passionate is the better word.

[xloopylozzax]

really, i would still call it OTT.

yes it was horrific (i watched it) but i didnt resort to effing and blinding and going on a rant about something entirely un-connected (considering the video is to do with poland and italy ;))

[lottie.dot]

really, i would still call it OTT.

yes it was horrific (i watched it) but i didnt resort to effing and blinding and going on a rant about something entirely un-connected (considering the video is to do with poland and italy ;))


This is because as horrific as it was... It hasn't really touched you. You can hardly define how anyone else should act upon seeing something... ??

[xloopylozzax]

sort of sums up my point im afraid- i can hold my tongue (so not swearing) and deal with things well.

why do you need to start sobbing and break down at the site of these things in order for them to effect you?

no-one else has resorted to mindless (foul mouthed) rantings either...

[lottie.dot]

sort of sums up my point im afraid- i can hold my tongue (so not swearing) and deal with things well.

why do you need to start sobbing and break down at the site of these things in order for them to effect you?

no-one else has resorted to mindless (foul mouthed) rantings either...

I am not saying, just because you haven't broken down - it hasn't affected you. But I know from your previous posts...This has not affected you the way it would affect me (if I would have watched it) or SJC for eg. We are different and look upon life in a differntly.

But do not shoot someone down when they react about something horrid or class it as OTT. OTT for who? You?

[S.J.C]

Sorry guys, my mini rant may have seemed a bit OTT to some, but I had JUST finished watching the sickening clip, I was in floods of tears and I was typing whatever came to my mind while watching the footage. :( I just wanted to express my out-rage. :mad: Isn't that what posting is all about!? Expressing your views and opinions? Your emotions/thoughts...
Yes, it was slightly OT but I was so darn mad. :mad:


:mad:

P.S- Thank-you Lottie.dot.:) x

[egg007]

Actually testing has been done by some animal charities recently that found salami, chirizo contained donkey/horsemeat there is a more indept study being done this year of more products of similar type being sold. Whether it bothers people or not,surely the fact that these ingredients are not listed is a worry in itself. I have two horses that were destined for a trip to Italy. One was bred for meat however is fine confirmationally, wonderful temperament, when bought it was kept in disgusting conditions that the animal welfare authorities here would condemn. My other is older, past her sell by date, wonderfully bred and perfectly mannered, many good years ahead of her hacking. I dont eat meat, have just returned to being a veggie, personal choice. However if people want to eat meat fair enough, make sure it is raised and slaughtered well. In france however this is definately not always the case, horses from riding schools, family ponies etc all face the journey to Italy if not lucky enough to be slaughtered locally. Putting animals to sleep is not an option in France, very expensive to do and even more expensive to dispose of the body, they do, on the whole, think differently to us. Horse not wanted, outgrown, old, etc if not a quick sale, then a quick buck off the butcher who drives around places weekly. I have seen countless videos of the horrors endured by horses going to Italy, I have seen the disgusting things goin on in CHina, skinning animals alive, Japans whaling and dolphin killing, it is all the stuff of nightmares, but daily it is going on.
So buy the best meat you can, organic if you can afford it, free range meat and eggs, do your bit and sign all the petitions animal welfare organisations ... or sit and rant on here about people who do actually care about these issues and do their bit as best they can. Being a veggie/vegan is not something to ridicule or insult ...

[sammie_85]

disgusting. not enough people realise what these animals go through. poor pones.

oh yeah and im vegetarian but im not OTT and i dont go on to anyone else about how they shouldnt eat meat and think of the poor animals cos everyone has their own choice. or should i statr saying how much i hate meat eaters to keep the stereotype alive?

[racingstripes]

this is why i personally dont take vegetarians/vegans seriously, they are so OTT about everything!

Excuse me I'm offended by this comment! How dare you generalise all Vegeterians and Vegans as OTT!

[joey_olop]

and i'm glad to say that i am a vegetarian for life, the thought of eating meat actually makes me feel physically sick.

Same as. I have been vegetarian ever since I have been old enough to pay for my own food & will never look back.
I cant open that link, I can just imagine what it looks like & it makes me sick.
But its not the horse slaughterers we should be condemning here, it is the people that over-breed horses in the first place & then this wouldnt happen.
Until we stop people breeding mit-mot (if that is the best word to use-sorry!), animals this business will only get worse :(

[duchy]

excuse me i'm offended by this comment! How dare you generalise all vegeterians and vegans as ott!

point proven!! Lol!!! :d

[Monika]

Well said, egg007.
I totaly agree with you and I did my bit (got 30 people to sign the petition and gave better life to two of those poor animals).
If i would find how to help more, I would do that again. But I think it is on the EU Parliament now to act.
I hope long distance transport for all animals will be banned soon.

[joey_olop]

this is why i personally dont take vegetarians/vegans seriously, they are so OTT about everything!

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Same could be said about some of the trash you have posted in the last few weeks!!!!!

[racingstripes]

Same could be said about some of the trash you have posted in the last few weeks!!!!!


I know! This is someone who calls vegerterians and vegans OTT yet takes her self SOO seriously in the showing world ! Pot calling kettle black??

:rolleyes:

[duchy]

I know! This is someone who calls vegerterians and vegans OTT yet takes her self SOO seriously in the showing world ! Pot calling kettle black??

:rolleyes:

Now, now you two. No need for personal attacks.

[racingstripes]

So saying all vegeterians and Vegans are OTT is not a personal attack? Its personal to me.

[duchy]

So saying all vegeterians and Vegans are OTT is not a personal attack? Its personal to me.

Now id didnt say that but two wrong dont make a right.....lol i feel like my mum!

[kirby]

Actually testing has been done by some animal charities recently that found salami, chirizo contained donkey/horsemeat there is a more indept study being done this year of more products of similar type being sold. Whether it bothers people or not,surely the fact that these ingredients are not listed is a worry in itself. I have two horses that were destined for a trip to Italy. One was bred for meat however is fine confirmationally, wonderful temperament, when bought it was kept in disgusting conditions that the animal welfare authorities here would condemn. My other is older, past her sell by date, wonderfully bred and perfectly mannered, many good years ahead of her hacking. I dont eat meat, have just returned to being a veggie, personal choice. However if people want to eat meat fair enough, make sure it is raised and slaughtered well. In france however this is definately not always the case, horses from riding schools, family ponies etc all face the journey to Italy if not lucky enough to be slaughtered locally. Putting animals to sleep is not an option in France, very expensive to do and even more expensive to dispose of the body, they do, on the whole, think differently to us. Horse not wanted, outgrown, old, etc if not a quick sale, then a quick buck off the butcher who drives around places weekly. I have seen countless videos of the horrors endured by horses going to Italy, I have seen the disgusting things goin on in CHina, skinning animals alive, Japans whaling and dolphin killing, it is all the stuff of nightmares, but daily it is going on.
So buy the best meat you can, organic if you can afford it, free range meat and eggs, do your bit and sign all the petitions animal welfare organisations ... or sit and rant on here about people who do actually care about these issues and do their bit as best they can. Being a veggie/vegan is not something to ridicule or insult ...

I totally agree with you, Iam a vegetarian of 15 years now and xloopylozzax I may be totally over the top sometimes on certain topics, but isnt everyone over the top when they really do beleive in something:)

[racingstripes]

Agreed! But its not the first time LL has offended members of this forum with her narrow minded attitude. So maybe its time she had a taste of her own medicine.

[Gruntfuttock]

Actually testing has been done by some animal charities recently that found salami, chirizo contained donkey/horsemeat there is a more indept study being done this year of more products of similar type being sold.

Hi egg, do you have a link to these studies, I'd definitely like to read up on them. If no links handy, can you just name the charities that did the testing (i can prob dig things up on their websites)? Ta.

[Melting Moments]

It should all be band, Its causing uncalled for suffering to the animals, which there is no need for.

Horses to us are pets, to others they are not, so no I wouldn't eat horse meat but then I would rather not eat other animals but all animals should have a better end to their lives not like this, I don't know how they let it go on.

[Gruntfuttock]

Actually, I don't think we ARE unwittingly eating horsemeat in our salami;

http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/pdfs/fsis4603full.pdf

[egg007]

think peta not sure will have a look. As for the OTT remarks, I prefer to say passionate.

[egg007]

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Horse meat has been found in Salami on sale in Britain.And there could be donkey meat in it as well.

The Food Standards Agency (FSA) warned the full ingredients in salami and similar products such as chorizo and pastrami are not always listed.

Local authorities in Hull, Durham, Northumberland, North Yorkshire and West Yorkshire tested 24 salamis.

Three of the samples were found to contain horse meat - but none of them declared it in the list of ingredients.

Rosemary Hignett, the FSA's head of food labelling, said: "There are concerns that UK consumers could unwittingly be eating horse and perhaps donkey meat when they buy salami or a similar product.

"Some people may prefer not to eat these products, even though food safety is not the issue and they are often traditional recipes."

Ms Hignett said the FSA was now planning to undertake a major survey of salami-type products to reveal the extent of the problem.

She added: "It is important that people know what they are eating and can make an informed choice about whether or not they want to eat it."

The FSA will investigate more than 100 meats from supermarkets, delicatessens and catering suppliers over the summer.

[martini55]

Just to point out the above is dated 2003, so you would need to check whether it is still relevant.

[JOJOBA]

Im a strict vegetarian who has no problem with proper slaughter and I dont have a problem with the concept of eating horse meat (why do we romanticise some animals and not others?). It's all about Happy Meat.

As for saying all Veggies/Vegans are OTT, well, sweeping generalisations are rather over the top too arent they :p

xxx

[Wally]

Propaganda, be careful.

[martini55]

Sorry to dig up an old topic, but I thought I would post this:
http://www.equinescienceupdate.co.uk/wehts.htm

Didn't make sense to post a new topic and it gives more recent, and relevant information. .

[disgruntled]

This is a very emotive subject, that horse with the snapped off foot would horrify anyone. I was veggie when I was younger and I applaud all veggies and vegans. I am a meat eater now BUT we raise our own pigs, own lambs when we can get them and our own chickens. We get a lot of people go "ugh, how can you eat your animals?" etc etc and I always ask these people if they are veggie and they always say no, at which point I tell them as meat eaters, and therefore responsible for the deaths of living things, to wind their hypocritical necks in!

There is a great deal of apathy in the world so it's good to see people getting upset, especially if it makes them act on it.

[LauraGeeGee]

I watched the video and was disgusted by it. I have nothing against eating horse meat but agree that live export must be stopped.
The video is 10 years old. I would be interested in seeing more recent information to see what/if any changes there have been.

10 years old?

I've not seen it so wouldn't know. Think I may have seen it before.

But yes, if it's 10 years old, that doesn't mean these things are still going on now? maybe things have changed since then?

[martini55]

Look at my post above, the reason why I posted it- to give updated information.

[Jenny--x]

Well things like this literally make me cry I don't hope they choke I hope that all those involved with the transport and slaughtering die ... in a more dispicable way than these beautiful animals did. I hope that anyone who has ever eaten horse meat reads something like that and lives in permanent guilt ! Makes me mad.

[Wally]

Propaganda. I could take photos of my ponies being removed after being shot. A photo taken totally out of context means nothing.

However I am totally against the live transport of animals for miles to slaughter houses.

Every town ought to have a slaughter house that only takes animals that have travelled for a very short time.

[disgruntled]

It was a video I saw, it was not out of context in my opinion. A horse had reared up and got its foot caught in one of the vents in the side of the lorry then fell over and snapped its foot at the fetlock. The horse was on its back on the floor with its foot at 180 degree angle to it still wedged in the vent. They cut its foot off to free it. That's pretty horrifying.

[lottie.dot]

It was a video I saw, it was not out of context in my opinion. A horse had reared up and got its foot caught in one of the vents in the side of the lorry then fell over and snapped its foot at the fetlock. The horse was on its back on the floor with its foot at 180 degree angle to it still wedged in the vent. They cut its foot off to free it. That's pretty horrifying.


My god.. That sounds about as horrific as you can get (and it's not unfortunately) I could not watch that. I literally would never sleep again.

Thing is though.. It's up to US to do something. We are the actual horse lovers of this country. We have a responsibility over these animals we care for.