OMG New Level of Stupidity

[rtk]

Sorry if this has been posted before but I haven't seen it. :rolleyes:

Stolen from another forum too :o

And sorry to the NH people in advance :p

But WTF


http://www.fuglyblog.com/2009/well-i-guess-they-are-safer-if-you-never-actually-get-on-them/

If this is true its taking stupidity to a new level

Especially with a lot of kids being interested in their teachings

[Denbenj]

*shakes head*

[beating_hooves]

Jesus christ!

I admit I never really liked parelli, but holy crap I never realised they were so arrogant and stupid! :eek:

[horseygal90]

I haven't read the Fugly blog in ages because unfortunatly I've found it all a little too 'OMG I AM ALWAYS RIGHT' but this is a great post, and very interesting.

[Willywilddog]

A couple of years ago I was riding a very safe horse. We were cantering along a farm track and put his foot in a rabbit scratching. Result: both of us on the ground, him ok, me in hospital for 2 days.
Accidents happen!

[Denbenj]

Thats exactly right, you could have the safest horse in the world, and be the best rider in the world! however a horse can easily stumble and thow you to the ground...

She seems deluded!! - her head, her loss, such a shame others may follow her.

[cinammontoast]

Deluded is mild! Different planet, for sure!:eek:

[Est]

The fugly blog is great - soooo funny! Haven't been there for a while either *note to self - remember to visit it again!*

[Hammie]

Well I was kind of on the fence re the Parellis' methods (though definitely not on the fence re their cult-like money making techniques :)). But this has definitely pushed me off the fence - I don't think I need to tell you which side I landed, but I was wearing my hat at the time :p!

[Wally]

I saw this a while back and was really amazed at their attitude.

[Sexy Sietske]

Totally not suprised at all, but in america its common to not wear a hard hat.

I do think it is irresponsible, adults are old enough to make their own decisions but younger viewers don't understand safety, they don't have fear like grown ups do :p

But then on the other side, if I had a child I wouldn't let it ride without a hat anyway, no hat no horse is what I was always told!

[colettybetty]

I would challenge anyone to fall of Malachy,its nigh on impossible. A dear boy who's more of a cross between a dog and a sofa than a horse, but would I ride without a hat ? Nope. Be like riding without high viz on the roads -and his large white bum is a neon sign in itself : ).
Think its called Social-Responsibility.:rolleyes: Parelli's arrogance is endlessly amazing.

[Lot1983]

I watched their display at Windsor a few weeks ago and it struck me that for someone going on and on about health and safety not wearing hats was pretty dumb, infact only one lady was wearing a hat and that was a beagler.

TBH I think it’s a great way of clearing out the gene pool…

(ETA: The other thing I didn’t like about the display is that none of the horses paid attention to what was happening outside the arena, who wants a horse that looks bored to the outside world? Is my horse therefore more NH than a parelli horse as he has his NATURAL HORSE instinct to be alert and attentive to the world?!)

[flinglebunt]

Some time ago on another thread someone persuaded me that Pirreli had some merit.

I saw some footage of a brain damaged kid on YouTube. It was heart breaking seeing her unable to talk properly or control her limbs and will need 24/7 nursing for what life she has left. Maybe I should send it to those money grabbing bastards and ask them again.

When it comes to making a lot of money anything is justified these days. I will never say a nice word about them again.

BTW ...... I do not go with the argumant that us grown ups have a choice ... dent your skull and others suffer, you family, the people who do not get treatment for something else because resources have to be diverted to look after you ... think on that. Ok you pay your taxes too but that broken head can cost hundreds of thousands, how much tax do you pay?

[Krissie I]

I'm not a Parelli fan....but

I did lots of riding in the US where no-one wears hats or thinks twice about it
I rock climb all over the UK and its 50:50 whether you wear a hat or not.
I rock climb in Europe and ROW and hardly anyone wears hats
I have cycled all over the world and most people are not in helmets.
I like the feeling of wind in my hair.

90% of the time I wear a hat. Sometimes I don't intend to ride, but then chnage my mind and do not think twice about hopping on without one.

I am all for personal freedom and I loathe people telling me what I should do. Especially if THEY DO IT IN CAPS!!!!!!!!:D

I won't make silly claims about the 'safety' of my horses and I think their letter was ridiculous, but hatless riding is hardly just a Parelli thing.

[Joyscarer]

Wearing a hat is like getting a vetting or taking any other safety item/measure. I personally think it is plain irresponsable to advise against it but I can appreciate why people don't.

Am at a loss as to how not wearing a hat is seen as part of the process of training you and your horse. I hope nobody suffers through following this mantra :mad:

[hormonalmare]

Unfortunately there are people who hang on the Parelli's every word, so their influence is huge, and that's why they should avoid making such ridiculous statements.

Mind you, I had absolutely no idea that undertaking Parelli work would make my horse so safe that it would never ever spook, trip or stumble. Or that it would work such magic on me that I would never lose my stirrups or my balance. :D:D:D

[Daisy_Roots]

Some time ago on another thread someone persuaded me that Pirreli had some merit.

I saw some footage of a brain damaged kid on YouTube. It was heart breaking seeing her unable to talk properly or control her limbs and will need 24/7 nursing for what life she has left. Maybe I should send it to those money grabbing bastards and ask them again.

When it comes to making a lot of money anything is justified these days. I will never say a nice word about them again.

BTW ...... I do not go with the argumant that us grown ups have a choice ... dent your skull and others suffer, you family, the people who do not get treatment for something else because resources have to be diverted to look after you ... think on that. Ok you pay your taxes too but that broken head can cost hundreds of thousands, how much tax do you pay?

Ditto this, apart from no one has ever managed to persuade me Parelli has some merit ;)

[melmo1313]

When I worked in the US, I did 2 summer Western riding camps. The lady I worked for was very good, and ANYONE under 16 had to wear a helmet. Anyone over 16 was an adult and could make their own choices. I always wore my helmet, thanks, seen too many people come off and have head injuries not to, and most of her adult students that had started out as kids there wore their helmets too. When you see them doing barrel racing with no helmets ... that is SCARY!

[eml]

I have seen this on another forum and cannot believe that anyone thinks you can make a horse accident ( that means unpredicable event) free, on the same basis our cars are well trained but I wouldn't ride in one without a seatbelt.

I used to as a teenager ride without a hat but in those days if you fell off wearig fairly decorative hat or no hat you lived to tell the tale or died, medicine did not enable people to survive brain injury.

These days we have a choice and I make the choice not to be burden on my family or the state by taking an avoidable risk.

[Krissie I]

[QUOTE=rtk;2462951]

And sorry to the NH people in advance :p

But WTF

[QUOTE]

Incidentally, what does not wearing a hat have to do with nh? Or did you mean 'sorry to PNH people'.

Poking fun at Parelli pomposity (at its best in that absurd letter) is entertaining enough, but not all Parelli is cr@p just because they don't wear hats, not all non-hat wearing is Parelli, and not all nh is PNH.

As for 'personal choice' and 'tax payers money', I am fit, don't smoke, am a healthy weight and don't have a car. Should I be berating all overweight smokers for their selfish tax-burdensom behaviour? Hat wearing is one of these things that is seen as essential in the UK and optional everywhere else, so people get very irate about it. Bit go skiiing and hardly ANY adults wear helmets...including the Bristish skiers. Incidentally I do almost always wear a hat and don't 'do parelli'. But I respect people's choices, and want people to respect mine!

[Wally]

A friend of mine had a very nasty fall, wearing her hat, she was in ICU for a long itme unconcious. She came round but hadn't really been prepared for the effect a hard bang on the head has on you.

She was left with no real lasting damage, but for a while she knew her personality had changed, she knew she was acting out of character and I think she was really quite frightened.
It affected everything, her home and work life. It took her 12 months to feel better and then she realised she was still making improvments.

Had she not been wearing a hat she may not be alive to tell the tale, or even worse alive and not able to tell her tale!

[Krissie I]

A friend of mine had a very nasty fall, wearing her hat, she was in ICU for a long itme unconcious.....


Sorry about your friend.

I know that logically the Right Thing To Do is wear a hat. But there are lots of other sports where it is equally sensible (remember Natasha Richardson) and doesn't generate this sort of emotion.

I was involved in a horrenodus climbing accident in which my husband fractured his skull. He was left with permanent deafness in one ear and various other issues that have thankfully resolved.

But we all do different types of risky things. Who speeds in their car and uses TomTom to tell them where the speed traps are? I DON'T. But plenty do, without getting this sort of condemnation for it. Incidentally, the speeding drivers also use the 'I'm in control' Parelli logic to legitimise their behaviour. I'm not going to pretend I have any 'reason' to ride withut a hat at times. I just do because sometimes I haven't got one to hand, and sometimes I like the feeling of freedom, and sometimes because it's FREEZING and my hard hat doesn't fit over my wooly hat.

(PS My husband works for 'Elf'n'Safety' and is appalled by my attitude...It must have been the universe playing a bit of a cosmic joke when it paired the 2 of us up!)

[Wally]

There's a chap here who is convinced in his car he "is in control"....funny how it's his car in the drain at the side of the road, or in the hill on its roof more than anyone else!

[Krissie I]

LOL

An ex-boyfriend 'Boy Racer' type was an excellent driver - Unfortunately he just kept getting smashed into by idiots:D:D

[madlady]

Wonder if the letter from one of the Parelli drones was written before or after Linda fell off??

[Smartie Pants2]

I also read this with utter amazement:eek:

[rtk]

[QUOTE=rtk;2462951]

And sorry to the NH people in advance :p

But WTF

[QUOTE]

Incidentally, what does not wearing a hat have to do with nh? Or did you mean 'sorry to PNH people'.

Poking fun at Parelli pomposity (at its best in that absurd letter) is entertaining enough, but not all Parelli is cr@p just because they don't wear hats, not all non-hat wearing is Parelli, and not all nh is PNH.

!


Only just seen I had some more replies to this thread

First I was not "poking fun" at Parelli, I think their attitude to this issue is a long way from being funny.

I dont think all Parelli is crap, we have the halter and the carrot stick.

I am seriously concerned that they are selling their product in this country (where hat wearing is the norm) without editing it for the target audience.

Its a basic rule of marketing, look at the culture and laws in the country you are trying to sell into.

Parelli is very popular with kids in this country, I know, mine did it. We all complain when top compeition riders are photographed working their horses without a hat and here is a company actively encouraging it.

Even if not wearing a hat is not illegal the insurance companies take a dim view. Try claiming if you have an accident and were not wearing a hat.

Perhaps the NH people need to distance themselves from Parelli if they really dont approve of some of their methods.

[kturner]

In some of the parelli vids, you see kids wearing hats. Why if the horses are so safe and accidents never happen. They obviously realise there is danger somewhere.

If you are a full blown parelli addict, and you decide to buy a horse with problems which you are going to 'fix', what do you wear for the first 6 weeks when it is obviously dangerous, till the time it is 'perfectly behaved'.

Hat on, hat off, or none at all because you played the first game when you picked it up and it is now on the program.

I used parelli on all my horses for years, but wouldnt dream of riding without a hat. I even wear one to the field to catch if I have 17 horses all trying to get out at the same time on a cold winters evening, and take a crop to chase back as well. You cant tell that many horses it is not there turn and please let mine out and wait for your owners. You are in a position of possibly getting mowed down and stood on.

Wouldnt bother with the hat and stick in summer if no-one at the gate though. There are times you really need one, especially in an emergency situation such as injury. No point in saying, dont kick me in the head whilst I scrape the debris out of your wound because you are parelli trained????

[Krissie I]

[QUOTE=Krissie I;2463547][QUOTE=rtk;2462951]



First I was not "poking fun" at Parelli, I think their attitude to this issue is a long way from being funny.



You may not have been, but I was (poking fun) and I do think it's funny! Their letter was a master-class in pompous arrogant absurdity and was frankly hilarious. I actually assumed it was a spoof letter. It's even funnier if they are trying to be serious.

The ISSUE may be serious, but that's different.

Actually it wasn't your post I was responding to really, it was the 'OMG they are evil and twisted and I'll never listen to a word they say ever again' kind of replies that prompted me to point out that not all Parelli is crap and plenty of people don't wear hats...

[Krissie I]

Sorry I realise I'm being flippant about an issue some people feel very strongly about - understandably if they have been personally affected by head injury. I do agree with the basic point that the Parelli's are being irresponsible.:)