equest now can do pancurs job

[lamprellsarah]

I am so ahppy about this!!
my horse won't touch pancur guard, she throws the bucket at me!!
but now it has been released it came on a leaflet i recieved, that instead of doing the 5 day course now a single dose of equest will kill all stages of red worms!!! yay

[intouch]

I think you've answered your own question there, the ads say it is as good but further research has disproven it.

[chev]

I'm confused... does equest kill all stages of redworm or not? If not maybe this would explain May's current problem?

[lamprellsarah]

oppps sorry, yes it kills all stages of redworms!! and research has proven it!

[artemis]

Watch out for side effects, some can be pretty nasty.

[lamprellsarah]

what are these??and why??

[Gill]

As many of you will know, wormers have to be tested extensively before they are lisenced. It is also very expensive to do this.

Equest has long been thought to be effective on all stages of redworm and has now been lisenced for them, as a lot of research has proved it is effective.

There is also a lot of hearsay about this drug. The safety margins on dose levels are lower than on other products, but should still be more than sufficient for all healthy equines.

Where there is parasite resistance to Panacur, and this is widespread, then Equest is the only other wormer (at present) to treat encysted worms.

I have used it with my own horses many times without problems.

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[artemis]

Side effects I have heard about from friends - no personal experience.----- skin rashes, colic, unexplained swellings to face & liver damage.

Possibly because they used the wrong dosage, but can't confirm this. The comments all came from long term owners who worm their horses regularly.

[tasha]

I have dosed Kally on Equest for 2.5 years and have had no side effects whatsoever. I think it is a marvellous product apart from one thing-the syringe is very stiff! We have also accidentally overdosed ponies on it when the locking mechanism wasnt quite on properly with no side effects.

I would recommend it to anyone, as I would their new product Equitape-takes the place of double dosing, one tiny syringe instead of two large ones.

[Gill]

Interesting comments Artemis. Have your friends reported these side effects to their supplier? There is a special form which Amtra use to record all incidences of side effects and every merchant should have them.

We had a problem with ivermectin and one of our horses. She comes out in itchy bumps all over like nettle rash and dashes about being very uncomfortable. She has no reaction with Equest though, even though the drug is a derivative of the same family. Needless to say we now avoid any ivermectin products with her, although it could also be the carrier used rather than the drug. I am not prepared to find out by experimenting.

As ever, the best way is to do all we can to use fewer drugs, by cleaning the fields and using worm counts with our horses so that we don't overworm them.
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[Sarah]

hello!

Gill, I've just bunged a poo parcel in the post to you today! I bet you wish we all sent you nicer parcels though.

I've been worming my two horses for teh last 6 months with the poo count and then worm technique and it has worked well - it has been cheaper than worming the horses every 6 or 12 weeks too (depending on the product).

I was wondering, I have just done a Equitape worming for both horses to knock the tapeworm on the head, but I was keen to do an encysted redworm worming, especially on Doodle whos worming history prior to us getting her is a bit unclear. Would a single does of Equest do that, or should i do a 5 day equine guard, or should I even bother at all if we are doing a worm count method?

bye!

[Gill]

Hi Sarah, I look forward to your parcel!

A worming for encysted worms would be a good idea either now or a little later. Equest would cover them, and bots if you need that too. Then start your counts again in about three months.

You could also use the Panacur 5 day in place of Equest, then count again after 6 weeks.

A worming for encysted worms should always be included as a precaution.

[Sarah]

Thanks for that Gill.

I'll do them both with equest in a month's time (unless your worm count says they need to be done sooner). The problem wtih the 5 day course is that you need horses who are hungry enough to eat all their dinner in one go to use it - our girls are generally so full of grass that they can't be bothered to finish dinner when it doesn't have wormer in it!

If we do them with Equest in a month's time, will that cover us for the normal Eqvalan bots worming that we do at xmas time? We have already had quite a few frosts in the girls field?

bye!

[artemis]

Hi Gill

I don't know whether my friends contacted the drug co or not. There was a lot of talk about the s/e about two years ago & I just asked all of my friends whether they had used equest & if they had had problems. They all had problems of one sort of another, thankfully not the liver damage though. I have never risked using it.

By the way I do use your service!!

[lamprellsarah]

i would like to get a worm count done and the do my worming around that, but the problem is at our stables is that they are all set in their ways and the yard owner isn't horsey, i have tried often to put forward things and they won't have none of it.

so i would still have to worm even if it was not needed!!

[artemis]

You could get a worm count done for your horse & show the results to the yard owner. You don't know they might be very impressed. At least you would know if your regimen was working.