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Janette
30th May 2004, 09:45 PM
Why are some bits 'legal', yet others are not?

I would like to try a dressage test and it will be my first. Star is going well in a 'magic snaffle', is this bit legal, and how do I find out? Does it matter at entry level?

Sorry - dopey questions:rolleyes:

Wally
30th May 2004, 09:51 PM
Not a dopey question in the least, but not one I can answer as I don't frequent the British dressage rule boards.

They are nearly as silly as the Icelandic bit rules, they say any snaffle with no more than two joints, so you'd think you'd be safe in a French link snaffle with cheeks.....NOT SO, cheeks are not allowed, or wern't when I competed last. Nowt so daft and baffling as rules.

shaka
30th May 2004, 09:52 PM
They are illegal if they cause the horse to go into a false outline and because you should be working with your horse and not need a strong bit to control them.

Yann
30th May 2004, 09:56 PM
I'm guessing it's because it's deemed that some non plain snaffle bits are seen as giving an artificial advantage in modifying a horse's way of going (as opposed to sawing on their mouths with an eggbut).

Wally
30th May 2004, 10:00 PM
Yann, do I detect an air of the cynical mind at work there?:D ;)

Janette
30th May 2004, 10:06 PM
so what about a 'magic snaffle'? Basically its a straight bar snaffle, with a port in the middle

Yann
30th May 2004, 10:15 PM
If that's all it is then I'd guess it was legal?

Perhaps Wally...;)

Lgd
30th May 2004, 10:16 PM
You can see the permitted bits on line at www.britishdressage.co.uk

Click on the library link and then go to the 2004 rule book - there are pictures and descriptions of permitted bits.

Yann
30th May 2004, 10:40 PM
On the other hand no ported mouths in the rulebook, so maybe not.

Janette
30th May 2004, 11:03 PM
Wonder why no ported bits.

But - seeing as how I won't be doing affiliated........................????

Will it be ok to use my bit?

DITZ
31st May 2004, 08:27 AM
I'm pretty sure that for unaffliliated you'd be OK. I mean they're not going to see the port inside his mouth are they and it is just a snaffle.

Yann
31st May 2004, 01:56 PM
You can use a ported weymouth but not a ported snaffle, and use a double but not a pelham... probably a good reason somewhere but as Wally said, nowt so daft as rules.

Gemma16
3rd Jun 2004, 02:32 PM
I was thinking about this too. What if you had a horse with a great flair for dressage but its mouth couldn't house two bits? Would you just not be able to progress above medium?

galadriel
3rd Jun 2004, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Gemma16
What if you had a horse with a great flair for dressage but its mouth couldn't house two bits? Would you just not be able to progress above medium?

All I can think is that you'd have to get two extremely thin bits. At that point in a horse's training, hopefully you'll be using such subtle aids that a thin bit wouldn't be too severe.

Janette
3rd Jun 2004, 06:33 PM
Very good question.

Janette
3rd Jun 2004, 06:33 PM
Very good question.

liz--y
3rd Jun 2004, 06:57 PM
`would you be able to get away with a ruby pelham :D

u can in showing :D :D :D