White pony - yellow tail!! HELP

[Happychik]

Can anyone help

I grey (white) shetland mare to show this weekend and i can not get the yellowness out of her tail. She has had a foal this year and it is worse then ever.

I have tried horse shampoo
I have tried Dove soap
I have tried vinegar
I have tried whiteneing shampoo

I am getting fed up it is lovely and silky soft but STILL YELLOW:mad:

any ideas would be much appreciated xx

i am begining to think turning bread into wine would be easier!!

[Miriam]

I have a grey mare and she once got creasote in her tail. I used the stuff that car machanics get cant remember the name off hand but it begins with a Z?? (someones bound to be able to say). It made Rhi's tail nice

[Happychik]

Think you are thinking of Swarfiga?

i might try that. Its not really the mare we are showing its her foal but it would be nice to get her looking good to

Thanks

Some also suggested to me half a cup of white vinegar with half a cup of lemon juice and left on for 15 mins before rinsing. So i mite try that too

thanks xx

[Miriam]

Originally posted by Happychik
Think you are thinking of Swarfiga?


Some also suggested to me half a cup of white vinegar with half a cup of lemon juice and left on for 15 mins before rinsing. So i mite try that too

thanks xx


Thats it :D

Not tried the second one let me know how it goes

[Wally]

My tried and trusted method is biological washing powder.

Wear rubber gloves if you have sensetive skin and keep it off the horse's skin as much as you can.

Wet the tail with fairly hot water, not so hot as it hurts you or the horse. Then make a paste from bio powder and rub it into the tail hairs, don't go too high up or you'll get it onto the skin of the dock.

Get an old sock and wrap the tail up in it and leave it to soak while you wash the rest of the horse. The sock stops the horse swinging bio powder all over the place.

Rinse it last thing.

[PridesAngel03]

Biological Washing Powder? I'm in the US, so not quite sure what you're talking about. Please clarify as I have a Pinto with a yellow tail that will need to be whitened as best possible the the State Fair this fall.

Thanks Bunches in advance!

;)

[~Perdita.M~]

Biological washing powder - the stuff you put in the drawer of the washing machine to wash your clothes!!! Non-biological is the same type of powder, but gentler on sensitive skins, but isn't as good at stain removing! Hope that helps with translation!:)

[PridesAngel03]

I thought that's what you meant, but we don't call it washing powder, so I wanted clarification. We call it laundry detergent, and it mostly comes in concentrated liquid form now, though you can still get it in powder form, but few do. ;)

So which is best? I'm guessing Cheer with color guard since I have a pinto! :D

[jeevesycat2]

I've heard that the blue rinses that the old dears use on their hair works....

:eek:

Haven't tries it meself........

Lx

[Jay.o]

Fairy washing up liquid woks quite well apparently too. A girl at my yard has a 12.2hh white pony. His tail is always soft but always a mangey yellowy colour. She uses the fairy stuff before she goes to a pony club rally/show and it keeps it clean.

Tip for next time: Dont get another greay horse ;)

[kgj66]

Why not try bleach, but only if nothing else will work, cuz it could go quite wrong. if your using detergent, you should use whitening detergent.

[ncl_89]

Originally posted by kgj66
Why not try bleach

Haven't tried it myself, but from what I've heard it turns the horse green! :eek:

[Grace O'Malley]

Originally posted by PridesAngel03
I thought that's what you meant, but we don't call it washing powder, so I wanted clarification. We call it laundry detergent, and it mostly comes in concentrated liquid form now, though you can still get it in powder form, but few do. ;)

So which is best? I'm guessing Cheer with color guard since I have a pinto! :D

The "biological" detergents sold in the UK have active enzymes in them (IIRC) and they are *great* for getting out organic stains (red wine, chocolate milk, etc.). But I don't think those can be sold in the US due to complaints about allergy problems. Some of the stain removing products sold here with oxygen bleach might do the trick if used the way Wally suggested. A spot test might be a good idea before soaking the whole tail--just in case ;)

Grace

[merry_legs]

Didn't read the 'help' bit at firt and i thought you were talking about a reverse palomino!!

Was going to suggest bleah but mabery not is it turns them green:o

well if you cant get her tail white You could allways stain the rest of her yellow

[Happychik]

You know merry legs that may not be such a bad idea

[RachelEvent]

The only shampoo 'proper' I have had results with, on my incredibly mucky grey, is hilton herbs ocean blue shampoo. It comes in concentrate form, and you use it diluted normally, and straight on stains.

I bought it because as well as a mucky tail, he has mucky flanks, and I didn't want to use something that could irritate his skin.

However, seeing as it's just a tail that you're worried about, these other suggestions are probably worth trying :)

Rachel xx

[Happychik]

Strangely enough her body and mane are incredibly white. Although i have never known another pony to cast all year round like she does. She is in her mid teens now and has had quite a few foals i guess it has just all taken its toll on her tail.

[Tor&Warrior]

I ride an eventer at work who is very dark steel grey and dapple on his body but his tail is very white from half way downl. To keep it from going yellow I have to wash it every few days. I use hilton herbs ocean blue shampoo and would swear by the stuff its brilliant! Last year he was turned away for a holiday for 5 months so when he came back his tail was orange and disgusting. A couple of washs of the Ocean Blue and it was back to its beautiful white self!

I definetley wouldn't bleach it. You risk turning it green and it will make the tail become brittle and dry and even if it didn't turn green it wouldn't be a natural white.

[amandal]

Hilton Herbs Blue Shampoo has just been voted best in Horse magazine, which I bought cos I was getting a grey mare vetted.

She passed, I don't know when her tail was last washed (not in the 4 months she was at the yard) and it was very yellow.

I tried Tesco's value brand blue shampoo last night (33p a bottle at the mo), only did one shampooing but the dirt that came of the tail was amazing but tail was still a bit yellow. Am going to try 2 washes of tail next time and if it still doesn't go white am going to Hilton Herbs.

Tesco's shampoo worked wonders on her coat.

[Horsesarelife]

Hilton herbs blue shampoo has amazing results and it is 1 of the cheeper colour enchancing shampoos you can get. We use (every 1 at the yard with horses with white tails) glow-white a liquid you mix with cold water and soak the tail in it for about 10mins wash it out and you have a white tail, (wash it first with washing up liquid) glow-white is ment for getting net curtains white, so I don't know wether any other type of net-curtain/clothes cleaner would work if you cant get glow-white

[Happychik]

UPDATE -

tried the vinegar and lemon juice.

Aprart from making the yard smell like a chip shop it didn't do a whole lot.

I am going to try the washing powder tonight will let you know how i get on.

You know if i crack it icould make a fortune on manufacturing a product that gets tails properly white.

[Jakandy]

My palomino boy has a very pale flaxen tail that even after using all the standard horse whitening shampoos vanish stain remover bar etc remained yellow where the poo stains were:(

Then one day a girl on my yard who is a hairdresser lent me some mouse that she uses on her clients with yellow tinges in their either grey or light blonde hair. It was brilliant just massage it in clean tail comb through and hey presto beautiful tail:D

Unfortunately she gets hers from hairdressing wholesalers and hasn't been since but I am sure you could buy something similar in boots.

[Happychik]

On Saturday night i used Fairy washing liquid (the one for clothes) on my shetlands tail and left it on for 15 mins.

I didn;t have any washing powder so i thought i would give the liquid a shot.

It took a lot of the staining out and i think if it had been done again then it would have worked really well. Her tail was much better so....... Final verdict good old fashioned washing powder/liquid does the job.

I also tried it on my highland stallions tail (he is dapple grey with a dark grey/white tail) and it worked really well on him too plus it made it really soft and silky into the bargin.

[bubblegum]

I use Dreft. Dissolve some in a bucket of warm water. Dip tail in bucket, then apply some dry power. Massage well, leave a couple of minutes (not too long around dock area though), then rinse thoroughly. Wear surgical gloves if you have sensitive skin.

For a really yellow tail, follow above procedure but put tail in plastic bag and leave for 30 minutes.