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5th Apr 2001, 12:25 AM
Nana has always been pretty obedient, but she is still "racehorsey" and recently she has been jumping flat. I have been schooling her myself for the past couple days since my trainer has 5 horses all are going to a show soon and she has been quite busy. Nana used to be very round, so Im not sure what's wrong. I asked my trainer and she said she would look at it next week when she had more time and if I was uncomfortable with it to do lots of bending and collecting instead of jumping. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get her to "round" herself again? I really would like to continue jumping her, as she still needs lots of practice and I already do a lot of flatwork with her for dressage. She has 2 days a week off and tons of paddock time and trail rides, so I dont think she is getting sour. Any help would be appreciated. This should probably be in training of the horse, but i accidentally typed it here. Oh well...
5th Apr 2001, 12:40 PM
How is Nana going in flatwork at the moment? Has she changed shape a bit recently as we are coming out the winter so her saddle isn't fitting as well as it used to, cos that would stop her rounding as would pain (even slight) through her neck or back in particular.
Is she rushing at the jumps and then hurdling hten rather than showjumping htem? If so, maybe spend a bit more time on flatwork to get her listening to your seat and not rushing towards the fences.
How stable is your position over the jump? If you get into the 2 point position too soon you will put too much wieeght on her forhand and prevent her rounding nicely over the jump.
As this has just started recently, why not give the jumping a break till your trainer can watch and see what is going wrong. You are right that she may well need a lot of practice in her jumping, but only correct practice will help her jump, and flat jumping won't help at all.
I hope that helped, do let us know how oyu get on.
5th Apr 2001, 02:01 PM
Thanks, Im pretty sure all her tack fits but i'll have another trainer take a look at it. She is actually doing really well with her flatwork. She is super responsive and very willing. I have her doing tons of bending and collecting, tight turns, and other exercises that help to make her more responsive. That's about all we've done thus far. She is trying to rush the jumps a bit, which is probably the reason she started jumping flat in the first place, but I can usually keep her paced coming in. mY position over the jump is quite stable, so I don't believe it is that. But I do have another question. I recently changed from a automatic release to a crest release. She is a strong jumper and I was afraid that if i did lose my balance I would yank her mouth, which is the last thing I want to do. But do you think this would make a difference? My trainer will be back monday, thank goodness.
5th Apr 2001, 07:39 PM
Did your changing from an automatic to a crest release happen about the same time as Nana starting to rush a bit more and go flatter? If so I'd go back to the way you used to ride!
I know crest releases can be a good way to give over the jump, but I have only seen it done in a way that jabs the horse in the mouth. I know it can be done right, but I have never seen it done right (and have never done it myself so can't really comment on it). There seems to be a temptation to pull back slightly before pushing forwards. Might be with thinking about whether the way you used to do the release was easier on you and Nana, but again that is something really only your trainer can comment on when she watches you.
I hope Monday's session goes well, do tell me what your trainer says
9th Apr 2001, 09:11 PM
Well, I had my lesson and as it turns out I was doing several things wrong. My trainer got on her and rode around for 15 mins or so, then took me to the tack shop where we got a "Happy Mouth Jointed Dee Ring Bit", and a flash noseband to attach to her bridle. We went back fixed her up with her new tack and switched back to automatic release. She was an angel and very round. Turns out the shift of automatic to crest release was too much for my poor mare, as I was doing it correctly, but I guess there was weight on her neck that she didnt like or something.
10th Apr 2001, 12:37 PM
Glad to hear that you have got the problem sorted out now.
15th Apr 2001, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Somethingroyal
I recently changed from a automatic release to a crest release.
Glad alls well but just wondering...
Urm...what is an automatic/crest release...sorry for being a bit dim...lol! THANKX :D
15th Apr 2001, 11:48 PM
Actually, not may people know what these are but anyway...
While doing this you place your hands up onto the horses neck, sometimes grabbing mane. The less experienced riders tend to put their hands up far on the horses neck, and as their balance grows, they pull their hands back further. The drawback to this is that by putting weight in the horses neck you are vulnerable if the horse trips, becasue when the neck goesa down most of the time you do too.
This is the most advanced realease, and in order to do it the rider needs to have secure balance and position. While doing this your hands follow the bit, with a straight line from bit to elbow.
There is also what my trainer calls the "Balanced Release". Where people grab ahould of mane and let that pull them far enough forward to go over the jump. But I do not know much about it.
16th Apr 2001, 02:17 PM
OOOOO! now i understand! I thought it was tack...well duh! :D hehehee...
THANKX VERY MUCH!!!
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