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jeandylon
16th Feb 2005, 09:36 AM
hi guys i would like to suggest u this ebook for new riders that i just downloaded in the web for just $29 with a lot of extramaterial in it! that's really great!It explains very well how to:

how to approach a Horse

You will learn how to get your horse to obey your every command.

You will learn the easiest way to mount and dismount

Just click here to know more about:
http://www.learnhorseriding.com/?hop=jeandylon

bye,

Gio

Bay Mare
16th Feb 2005, 09:15 PM
Hi

Whilst I'm sure that many of us like to read horsey books it's IMPOSSIBLE to learn to ride, mount, dismount and generally 'know' about horses without actually being around horses.

If anyone can tell me how to get my horse to obey my every command then I'll give them my life savings!

I've heard of a lot of things done by distance learning but never horse riding :)

I do like the articles on the site, however:

For example, when you’re heeding a horse on the ground in an arena and you want him to canter off on his left lead, you’ll “skip”along keeping your left leg ahead of your right and you’ll turn your shoulders so they create a feeling of “open” and “forward” in the direction you want him to go. In the beginning, since he doesn’t yet understand what you’re showing him, you’ll probably extend your right arm out parallel to the wall and wiggle your whip to make a little fuss and create a little more activity in the horse. If he still doesn’t get the feel of what you want, you might drop back a little further toward his hip or move in a little closer to him or whatever it takes for the light bulb to go on over that particular horse’s head.

I know EXACTLY how Saff would respond to that ..... she'd look at me as though I'd got a screw loose and then head off to the patch of grass at the side of the school.

Bay Mare
16th Feb 2005, 09:18 PM
and then I read the FAQ's :eek:

Q. If I read your book, will I still need riding lessons?
A. Good question. It depends on what you plan on doing. If you are going horseback riding for the first time and only plan on riding occasionally, then I would say no, this book will prepare you for that easily. If you plan on becoming the next super jockey, then yes, you will require more lessons. This book is an introduction.

Q. Why should I buy your ebook?

A. You're obviously interested in learning how to ride a horse, otherwise you would not even be here. And we promise you that if you read this book all the way through you will immediately feel more confident about horseback riding. When you go out to ride, you will already know what to do and what not to do to make your ride a success. This ebook teaches you how to ride a horse in the fastest time possible. Love it or your money back.


Scary and dangerous advice!

Save your money and put it towards REAL lessons on REAL horses with REAL instructors!

KarinUS
16th Feb 2005, 09:22 PM
Ah, Bay Mare I resisted the urge to validate any of their gazillions of double-posts pushing their silly books...

Nobody is going to be crazy enough to spend money on this...

entreat
16th Feb 2005, 09:23 PM
I know EXACTLY how Saff would respond to that ..... she'd look at me as though I'd got a screw loose and then head off to the patch of grass at the side of the school.
LMAO! Yep, my horse would do the same. Or think we were playing chasy - which in a school would end up in a dangerous bucking session.

I've read half a dozen books on riding already, but feel that nothing compares to a good lesson and lots of practice. Books can't correct you when you don't know what you are doing wrong. But lesson+practice+books= a great start!

Bay Mare
16th Feb 2005, 09:25 PM
if only!

Having spoken to a friend at work today (fairly inexperienced rider) I know FOR SURE that she would have been taken in by this. NOT because she would believe the 'learn to ride without lessons' implication but because she's so desperate to learn more that she'll buy any old crap that has 'horse' in it's title.

entreat
16th Feb 2005, 09:32 PM
That was me a year ago! I even have a book by a trainer that I now know is pure evil and treats his horses in a horrible way that won't be gone into here.

Now I am much more selective. Just bough Enlightened Equitation by Heather Moffat :)

Kalypso
16th Feb 2005, 09:35 PM
just reading your post made me have a go at the website, Bay mare...I know quite a few people who would probably be taken in by something like this.

I'm sure Mike or one of the other mods will get rid of these and all the other threads exactly like this one soon.

KarinUS
16th Feb 2005, 09:39 PM
NOOOO!

I was just thinking about something else to sell to desperate riders:
Karin's Balance Beads
The perfect complement to the e-Book. If you read the eBook and buy the balance beads and you wear them you will be able to skip the lessons even if you want to become a super jockey! :D :D :D

Bay Mare
16th Feb 2005, 09:45 PM
Yay! I'll have a dozen :D

Tootsie4U
17th Feb 2005, 01:37 PM
Actually, that 'skipping' thing up there is the basis of what Klaus Hemperfling teaches in his "Dancing with Horses' Book". Some other varieties of advanced NH teach it as well.

Hate to be any sort of advocater of such a dangerous, high liability, suggestion that you can learn HB riding without ever seeing a horse in person :rolleyes: , the coo-koo dancing strategies do work :cool:

Peace
17th Feb 2005, 02:14 PM
My neighbor has been trying to learn on her own at home, and had a terrible accident on Sunday. Somehow she wound up pinned beneath the horse, and when the horse used his head to gain some upward momentum to get off her, he hit her in the face with the top of his head. Of course her nose is broken, and the doctors at the hospital where she's been since Sunday told her yesterday she will lose her eye.

I don't know for sure, but I think she was made nervous by lessons and felt more comfortable trying on her own at home. But being new to horses, she didn't understand how to keep herself safe around them.

So thanks Mike for leaving this thread open - it's probably good for the "Starting Out" section to know not to be taken in by these sorts of scams.

This was a very preventable accident, so please don't let me put anyone off riding. The accident rate for people on school horses in supervised lessons is miniscule.

cvb
17th Feb 2005, 02:33 PM
re: the ground work stuff quoted. Yes the basic principles may be ones we recognise from other trainers. But if they are not described in a way that the person can get the horse to understand them, they are not worth much.

I saw Mark Rashid show the way he lunges - he explained the logic, the progression he gets (to ground driving) and we saw how the horse he was working reacted to him - very quickly with no wiggle of whips :p

My mare has got used to me using Parelli-style cues. But while I was warming her up for my session later the same day, I tried a bit of what Mark had showed.

Real simple stuff like the speed you work influencing the speed of the horse. And it works - I didn't need to explain what I meant to Fi. I DID have to know what my body language needed to be.

So if I read that description in the light of my existing experience I can see what they are getting at. But if I read it without that, I think both me and the horse could get VERY frustrated.

imabrit_us
17th Feb 2005, 08:08 PM
Why would anyone think they could learn something intensely physical (feel . . . riding) by reading it from a book? That's like saying I know how to climb Everest from reading "Into Thin Air" . . . a book by a climber.

Just daft.

N