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liz--y
11th May 2001, 11:32 PM
if i breed my chestnut mare with a grey do i have a high chance of getting a grey or is it just luck, i would pref another colour but then colour doesnt really matter
Somethingroyal
11th May 2001, 11:47 PM
well, it has to do witht he whole gene thing, and im not sure but I believe chestnut is dominant over gray, but I could be wrong. If I am right than simply put you would have a 50/50 chance of getting a gray, but you have to check me on this...
horselover
12th May 2001, 12:25 AM
Grey is an interesting color gene b/c it is epistatic, meaning it overrides, or masks, the other color gene it is paired with. Therefore, the chances of getting a grey when you breed to a grey horse are very high. It is impossible to tell if a grey horse has homozygous dominant (GG) or heterozygous(Gg) alleles.So you don't know if breeding with one grey horse will always result in a grey horse- this is if it is homozygous dominant (GG)- or if it might sometimes result in a non-grey horse- this is if it is heterzygous (Gg). If you definately don't want a grey horse, then don't breed your amre to a grey stallion.
Personally, one of my favorite horse colors is grey, but that's just me. :)
horselover
12th May 2001, 12:27 AM
By the way, most grey foals are born a solid color, but within a few weeks, they begin to show signs of grey around the nose and flanks. So don't be surprised if your chesnut foal turns to grey eventually! My best friend's horse was a palomino color until she was around 2, then she turned grey!
liz--y
12th May 2001, 02:54 PM
i have to breed my mare with eityher the father or his son both grey because of there blood lines and there only 10mins drive away if we have any problems an they have wonderful temps. i think he is Gg as i saw the sons full bros and others and they had bays and chestnuts, although some of the yearlings had started going grey. i love greys to when thetre grey but father has got flea bitten and son has started to. and there hard to keep clean then. i planning to keep it and im not really worried about colour um ok this is sounding really confusing now
clip-clop-oops-crash
13th May 2001, 06:55 PM
i thought i was pretty much garaunteed a black foal (though it didnt matter) when i bred a black mare that had black bloodlines 4 about 6 generations 2 a black stallion who also had black parents but the foal was a gorgeous rich dun!! we were very much tempted 2 call her surprise but thought 'sunset stunner' expressed our delight as well + she was born around 6pm (gb winter!) aswell!
JackiAH
14th May 2001, 02:50 PM
Just wondering, what happens if you breed a stallion to its mother?
-Jacki
clip-clop-oops-crash
14th May 2001, 06:23 PM
i would expect nothing immediately obvious but breeding of immediate relatives is best avoided as it is with all in-breeding.
Hevz2001
18th May 2001, 03:50 PM
i dont know if it goes for the same with horses, but if u bred a dog with its mother or sister, the puppies could end up deformed.
clip-clop-oops-crash
18th May 2001, 06:07 PM
its all 2 do with mixing gene pools or something i think but its definitely not a good idea!
nicky
18th May 2001, 08:19 PM
It is not true with dogs about mother son matings, it is very close and can be done.It is called line breeding.
horselover
19th May 2001, 03:26 AM
You do not want to breed family memebers together too often b/c it decreases the gene pool.
Offspring have one set of each otf their parent's DNA. This means that if you have a recessive trait for a recessive disease, in say, the dam, the foal gets the recessive gene. As long as the sire gives the foal the dominant gene for that pair, the foal will not have the disease. But it is a carrier for it. Now you breed the foal, now a stallion, back to the dam. Well, their is a much greater chance that their will be a foal with the recessive disease. If you do this often enough, you will have a very small gene pool, adn the horses will be more likely to exhibit diseases and mutations.
It is done, but you get to a point where you have to breed out or else you are producing bad stock that no one will want b/c they will have so many problems!
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