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5th Apr 2005, 12:21 AM
Milly isn't currently recieving any supplements and she's fed hi - fi, cool mix and sugar beet. She seems well in herself is healthy enough and hasn't dropped dead yet :p :D
Anyway, one of the women that keeps her horses on full livery with us was horrified to find that Milly didn't recieve anything in the way of supplements - except for a few apples and carrots in her tea and breakfast. Admittedly, quite a few on the yard seem to get a number of supplemnts, but personally have never fed any to Milly and she's always seemed fine - but this women has made me feel a bit guilty for not feeding any and like I ought to at least give her some supplements. I think the nearest supplement Milly has had with me was bute when she got kicked in the field!! :D
So, I don't really know what supplements I ought to be feeding her - if any? Are there any that will really help her in general? Or is she okay without supplements?
Oh, she's an 6yo ID x TB, ridden about 5/6 times a week general schooling, hacking and jumping - with a view to compete in dressage and showjumping this summer - if it makes a difference?
zara x x x
5th Apr 2005, 04:09 AM
As she is being fed a mix she should NOT need any supplements.
I'm afraid feeding supplements has just got out of hand nowadays. They are designed to be used for horses on very restricted feed or poor pasture. Modern premixed feeds generally contain all the vitamins and minerals required.
Save your money for more worth while stuff.
5th Apr 2005, 04:32 AM
If your horse is healthy and happy and her coat is shiny, she doesn't need supplements. If it is something that is going to worry you though, I think you can get a vet to do a blood test and assessment to see if she needs any, but, if she is healthy, you'll probably get the answer you already knew, and it will have cost you a vet visit.
My horse works 6 days a week, has two dressage lessons and 2 jumping lessons. (he is 11 years old) and he gets hay, 12% complete feed and beet pulp with canola oil and a salt lick. Oh and a lot of carrots! :D He does fine and is happy and healthy and maintains good weight. I often get people telling me "oh shouldn't you fee him vitamins/glucosamine/yucca/seaweed/yeast" the list goes on and on, I just stick with what I know he is happy with.
A lady at our barn is constantly changing her horses supplements and it's just silly. She doesn't even give them time to start working, and some can take a really long time before you can see if they have any effect. she spends loads of money and it's a big waste! Stick with carrots and apples :p
5th Apr 2005, 07:32 AM
Mine have no supplements and B was jumping heavily last year and Zak competes most weekends, infact every weekend normally and sometimes 2 or 3 times per week.
A well balanced diet shouldent need any supplements, unless you have a partiuclar reason, such as the horse is aneamic etc, my old mare was and had to be supplemented, but I dont do it for the hell of it.
Also alot of supplements over run one another, so if your feeding say 3, you need to check they dont contradict another one.
The only things I do feed is Garlic and Mind from about now to the winter, Garlic as abit of an extra thing for the flies, and Mint as they are on dry feed without sugar beet and makes it taste nicer.
And if B's legs are being dodgy he will have some Devils Relief.
5th Apr 2005, 08:00 AM
Modern premixed feeds generally contain all the vitamins and minerals required.
This is true but you'll only get a fully balanced ration if you're feeding at the manufacturers recommended rate, which tends to be a couple of kgs per day.
I don't feed mixes and Bebe is a good doer so she currently gets Baileys Lo-Cal Balancer. I initially put her on it was I was worried about her not getting enough protein through the winter months and she was feeling a bit flat to ride. It did make a big difference and I've seen an improvement in how she builds and holds her muscle since going on it. She also gets magnesium as she is deficient in this mineral and I've recently put her on MSM (for various reasons).
Feedwise though she only gets hay, grass & alfalfa in small quantities. If I was giving her buckets of mix or even buckets of a complete chaff then I would stop using the Lo-cal.
5th Apr 2005, 08:03 AM
Good point Bebe I forgot to add that, need to re start my Nutrition degree, I kinda got out of it all, and am not concentrating on the simplest things!lol
I've always gone for a decent balancer in situations where I cant feed the full rec quantity, but 2 boys do have the rec quantity, it does suit them.
P dosent, so she will be on a balancer.
5th Apr 2005, 08:29 AM
I dont think supliments are needed nearly as much as people use them. But a tablespoon of garlic or rosehip or some other herb won't go astray. and it might keep your yard owner of your back.
5th Apr 2005, 08:35 AM
Oh for goodness sake! If you were giving your pony a brandy and Babycham every evening what on EARTH has it got do do with anyone? Tell her to mind her own business!
5th Apr 2005, 08:39 AM
Yeah I agree, whats it got to do with a YO what you give your horse?
As long as its looked after thats the main thing, I certainly wouldent feed my horse something just to please someone else, tell her to go forth and multiply!
5th Apr 2005, 11:13 AM
I wouldn't feed supplements unless they were necessary. There does seem to be a growing trend for feeding supplements and it is a huge money making business, I wonder if half the people who feed all these supplements do understand why they are actually feeding them.
But, as Bebe says, if your horse is not receiving the recommended daily rate of feed, then I would feed a broad spectrum supplement to ensure the horse was getting the correct amount of vitamins and minerals.
5th Apr 2005, 11:20 AM
Two good supplements that are very cheap are flax and kelp.
Flax gives them a very shiny coat, and helps them digest their dinner.
Kelp boosts the immune system (it has eliminated all signs of thrush from my very thrushy mare).
I also feed my dark brown gelding paprika to darken his coat (also cheap).
5th Apr 2005, 08:36 PM
Cheers guys for the down - to - earth advice! :D I'm glad you all don't think I'm 'cruel' or whatever for never feeding supplements!
She seems well and healthy in herself - nice glossy coat, plenty of energy and is generally looking well. Plus she's out in the day on fairly good quality grazing and has a salt/vitamin lick thing in her stable.
Just to clear it up - wasn't my YO/Boss or any other of the staff at the yard who said this - a women who just keeps her horse on full livery with us and incedently feeds about 5 different supplements to her horse! :rolleyes: YO/Boss is really good - says Milly is looking well and only offers advice when I approach him or he has something worthwhile to add, he never really bothers me the rest of the time
Zara x x x
5th Apr 2005, 08:41 PM
i would only every feed supplements if a horse REALLY needed them. im not really a believer in them. though maybe someday when im rich i'll get that black-as-knight stuff for tahoe :D
someone was shocked when she heard my moms horse was 22yr old ex race horse and she didn't get supplements. i said she doesn't need them they didn't really know what to say except i should be giving her supplements :D i had to laugh
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