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Chloe1
3rd Jul 2001, 11:00 PM
hi

After going through a long list and eliminating all possiblities of pain and rider error, I feel that I have got a riding problem that i have not got enough confidence to deal with myself as a rider, I have no problems with ground work but lack confidence as a rider.

I am looking for somebody in the Cheshire are or willing to travel to the cheshire area that believes in heathers methods of traing and also treats the horse in a sympathetic fashion, but has the confidence to deal with a nappy problem that is becoming worse.

All possiblities have been checked over the past few months and teeth are being checked again tomorrow (second time in 5 months to be doubley sure.

initial problem being horse does not want to take a contact, second problem being running out on circles through outside shoulder, and rearing once because I managed to stop her from running out, rearing is not a regular thing but I fear it could become one if it is not sorted out early.

M1TOO
4th Jul 2001, 01:21 PM
Hi Chloe: when my horse came to the yard before I bought her we had trouble with her continually shaking her head and napping at the gate and generally being unco-operative - we sent her to a man who trains horses with riding problems and breaks them in and I swear he is the nearest thing to a horsewhisperer I know of - he is used by many people around the Lancs area but unfortunately has his own farm so cannot travel - if you are willing to take your horse to him (he also rasps teeth etc.) for training for a week say I am sure he will be able to settle him for you - his name is John Lee at Pocket Nook farm located at Lowton (half way between Liverpool/Mcr) the cost of a week is approx. £150 but don't quote me as prices and times change but he is great.. he sorted my girl. best wishes kay.:)

Kerry's Partner!!
4th Jul 2001, 07:23 PM
Michael Peace is the person I would recommend wholeheartedly. He will travel and help you and your horse to solve the problem. His e-mail address is michael@thinkequus.com - try mailing him for a response. Very best of luck. You must be so upset at the moment.

Chloe1
4th Jul 2001, 09:01 PM
Thanks for you replies.
I don't want to send her away to anyone I am looking for someone to help me school her on a weekly basis or so.
She wouldn't like to go away as she doesn't trust strangers, had a bad time before I got her and she looks to me for suppport before trusting anyone new, if I am there then its ok. If I am not then she not so sure.

I would love to try Michael he was the first person I thought of but unfortunately finances won't allow for that much at the moment.

I had the dentist out again today and she had no problems so it looks like I need some help with a dominant nappy horse.

Mossy
5th Jul 2001, 07:50 AM
Hi
Try a Mary Wanless instructor, they tend to Heather's ethos and are gentle but firm by training. Good luck

Chloe1
5th Jul 2001, 08:53 PM
Thanks Mossy. How do I find one of these instructors.?

Mossy
6th Jul 2001, 05:59 PM
Hi
Ask at your local saddlers or riding club. As a last resort ring or email the Mary Wanless organisastion. They will send you a list but they charge for it.

Showjumper
6th Jul 2001, 07:15 PM
Chloe, your horse sounds like she is stressed and tense. I am a firm believer in Tellington Touch Equine Awareness Method (TTEAM). By using the TTouches on your mare, you should be able to relax her, so that when the new instructor arrives, she/he will have a quieter and more co-operative horse to work with. Good Luck and Happy Landings :D

Chloe1
6th Jul 2001, 09:43 PM
Thanks

Already had a psyhio that also did some t touches and i have been carrying on with them myself. Like I said everything else has been done, also did join up with her today succsessfully.
I also have one of Lindas books about t touches.

I will try and find Maary Wanless e-mail address if any of you know it or a contact number I would be most greatfull.

Thanks again
Chloe

Wally
6th Jul 2001, 10:24 PM
I know a Mary Wanless instructor. If you e-mail me or private massage I'll give you his number.

Kerry's Partner!!
8th Jul 2001, 07:39 PM
I'm sorry about the cost Chloe. An alternative might be to try to arrange a demonstration by Mike so others could benefit and you'd incur less cost. It just sounds like you really need his help and this might be a way of gaining it. Could you interest your friends and talk to Mike to see if things could be worked out?

Heather
18th Jul 2001, 04:07 PM
Mary Wanless (Ride With Your Mind) instructors don't deal so much with problem horses, just problem riders!I don't necessarily think they woudl be of great help.

The Tteam approach would probably be of much more use. I would also get her checked out by a Bowen techique practitioner- they seem to find and solve problems, that others miss.

One thing- what aids are you using for turning?


Heather

Chloe1
20th Jul 2001, 12:17 AM
I am useing my weight into my inside stirrup, and slightly more weight on my right seatbone.

My hands. Well I have tried opening the inside rein (this was the worst scenario) also tried keeping the inside rein close to her shoulder to prevent too much bend , because she often tried too get too much bend in her neck and iff she does I have lost her then.

Sometimes she is worse if we are travelling with more impulsion, but I think I could have been chasing her out of her rythem here too. But too little impulsion and she will then arch her neck into her chest and drop the bit (ears back as if threatening me to back off)

I need to know if I have corrrect impulsion and also doing the correct things with my hands.

When I watch my horse trot in the field. She is not charging along like a tense bull, she somehow floats, and also when I feel that she is swinging along with lots of spring in her step Too me that feels right I try to imagine riding her as if she was in the field. However my old instructor said I need to send her forwards more and problems and tension would start to creep in then.

Heather
20th Jul 2001, 07:02 PM
Be very careful when using weight into the inside stirrup. Chloe- unless you are very balanced this can lead to collapsing of the hip or dropping the shoudler or both- my trainer Desi Lorent taught us to advance the inside hip bone a little more than the outside at each stride- so that you are not stuck in that position but are still going with the rise and fall of the horse's back. Too many riders shove their hip forward- in lateral work too- and block the horse in the process!

Trry working in a rhythmic trot which is just about as much forward as she can take without running, but not so slow that she backs off the bit. Do this in rising trot and use your body weight and legs to regulate the tempo, not your handsi.e- by slowing your rate of descent to the saddle the horse sort of has to 'catch you down' rather than up- if she slows off, then that is the time to use the leg to send her forwards.

In turning qalso make sure that you are using the outside rein with a little pressure against the neck- but not tight so as to restrict the bend- she sill soon learn to move away from the pressure- the outside leg brings the quarters around- the insdie rein merely asks for flexion.

Hope this helps-


Heather