Eye Opener.... Friesians and pictures!!

[Showing Mad]

Firstly, have i put this in the right place??? Anyway....

Wow, i have just been browsing the net and i came across some pictures of Friesians, how gorgeous are they! I have personally never really thought much about them as i have never looked in much detail at one but having done this now i think they are gorgeous!!:D Please have a look at some of the photos below....

Friesian Stallion
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/chanceencounter/Friesian1.jpg

Another picture of the stallion..
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/chanceencounter/Friesian3.jpg

Different stallion..
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/chanceencounter/Friesian2.jpg

A friesian Mare and Colt, how cute!!:p
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/chanceencounter/MareandcoltFriesians.jpg

These pictures are just ones which i thought were lovely so thought i would share these too, dont think they are Friesians though?
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/chanceencounter/Blackhorse.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/chanceencounter/Blackhorse2.jpg

[iloveshearer]

they arent coming up?????

[danielle:>]

Nope, they aren't working for me either :(

[Rips]

Make your account public, then they should be visible :)

[pengapenga]

I can't see your pics either but I have to agree that the friesian is gorgeous:D Not only in their stunning looks but also they have fantastic characters, and I am not just a little bit biased:p

Everyday when I look out of my window and see Frits in the paddock I cannot believe that I actually own (or does he own me:rolleyes: ) one of these majestic horses:)

Frits is a stallion, but is one of the most gentle boys around and just loves attention. I often get phone calls from people who want to come and visit him - we call it a Frits Fix:D I should probably start charging entrance fees:p :D

The downside of course is he is very noticable at shows so when he misbehaves (he is only four and gets a little bit excited at shows) everyone knows:o

[ambatt]

What are Friesians like as 'people'? All the breed books I have say they have marvellous temperaments but they always seem very spirited and lively. They are magnificent horses. Can you still obtain the smaller, heavier Baroque types, as most of the ones I have seen have been the taller, lighter more upright ones.
They are glorious though.

[Showing Mad]

Sorry i deleted the pictures from my photobucket :rolleyes: but have just uploaded then again, should be able to see then now!!

Pengapenga any pictures of your handsome man????

SM xXx

[~*sugarlump*~]

they're amazing!!! wouldnt mind having one of them!!! the 2nd one, and the one in the snow are my fave!!!

[iloveshearer]

wow stunning horses!

[vciky]

I am the proud owner of a Friesian Mare called Antsje (pronounced 'Onsha') Her temprament is wonderful and she is getting very affectionate (I have only had her about 7 weeks) She is very sensitive and forward going to ride but not naughty, she needs a lot of confidence in the rider and likes to be talked to. She is very eager to please, but sometimes can get a bit stressed if she doesnt understand what you want:rolleyes: We are currently just working on allowing her to relax:D

Here she is:


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/Vicky_Whitlock/Antsje/DSCN0753.jpg

She has tremendous movement and I hope to do some dressage with her later this year:)

Vicky

[iloveshearer]

wow shes beautiful aswell! iv never really seen many friesans before now!

[vimto92]

Vicky! How big is your girl? She is very lovely btw:)

[~*sugarlump*~]

Vicky! How big is your girl? She is very lovely btw:)
ditto!!!!
i always wanted a fresian...well any horse really!

ps are all fresians black?

[vimto92]

ditto!!!!
i always wanted a fresian...well any horse really!

ps are all fresians black?
Bingo! So glad you asked that!;) :)

[vciky]

Thanks for all your kind comments about Antsje :D She is measured at 158cm which is just over 15.2hh. They tend to appear bigger than this though as they have a high head carriage:eek: She is 5 1/2 yrs old so she may not grow taller but I think she is likely to 'fill' out a bit!

Yes Freisians are Black, Black or Black:p The only white marking permissible is a few white hairs on the forehead; even a small star will preclude a horse from entering the studbook. The Freisian breeding regulations are very strict, but it does mean that the quality of the breed is protected.

Im so glad you like her - so here is another photo LOL - you shouldnt have got me started:eek:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/Vicky_Whitlock/Fhoenix/antsje-fhoenix.jpg

[ambatt]

15.2?? I would have said 16.2hh she is a fine upstanding Friesian lady and very beautiful. Like my OH has just said, very noble!

[blackhorses]

WOW! Vicky what a lovelly mare! :) I am rather biased like Pengapenga as I have Friesians, a stallion called Wessel, 3 mares called Anke, Hannah and Irma, 1 colt foal called Othello (Otto) and a filly called Eowyn, and a gelding called Nero. They all have nice tempraments, my stallion Wessel is a big teddy bear! I'll stick some pics of them on here, the first one is Wessel, then a couple of my mares in the pigs wallow! and Wessel after rolling - the only thing with friesians is they love mud! and the last is my gelding Nero. ( I think I shrunck the pics a bit too much - haven't quite got the hang of this yet!:D )
Have a look at my website for the unshrunk versions!:D

[vimto92]

Wow lovely pictures!:)
Don't mean to be rude Vicky but how tall are you then? Because she looks taller than 15.2hh:o
Sorry I feel so rude!

[vciky]

Don't mean to be rude Vicky but how tall are you then?

LOL - I'm about 5' 3", I think the photo is a bit decieving, and like I said, the head carriage makes her look a lot taller:eek:

Blackhorses: WOW - what beautiful Freisians, you must be very proud.

Vicky

[pengapenga]

What are Friesians like as 'people'? All the breed books I have say they have marvellous temperaments but they always seem very spirited and lively. They are magnificent horses. Can you still obtain the smaller, heavier Baroque types, as most of the ones I have seen have been the taller, lighter more upright ones.
They are glorious though.

On the whole friesians have lovely terperaments:) they are gentle giants:) Frits is such a character and to put a 'people' description on him I would say he is a typical mischievious (sp:o ) boy! We all know his sign, he curls his nostril a bit just before he does something naughty:) Like blackhorses has said about Wessels, Frits too is a teddybear and is very huggable, he will stand there for hour with someone hanging round his neck - he just adores it. He also loves children and is so very gentle around them:)

There are three types of friesians. Baroque, Classical and modern type. All of this will be explained in the sticky I have written which should be coming up soon:)

Showing mad a picture of Frits:) This is not a great one but I have put up a few recently and am finding it hard finding an original one - best get down to the paddock and take some new one:)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/FritsMystical/frits4.jpg

[GarnetFox]

What about this chestnut friesian chap?

Fire Magic (http://worldofdancinghorses.com/stallions.html)

[Showing Mad]

Yes i can see where yu are comming from in thinking Vicky's horse is bigger, i thought that the first time i looked. They do have a high neck carriage so this is what probably makes her look bigge, if you look at the withers she does look her height.

Vicky, she is beatuful, you will have to post more pictures of her!! Also when she is a big older and has filled out more! I'm looking forward to them!!:D

Blackhorses yours are gorgeous too!! The stallion looks a bit like the pictures i put up!:D

Do any of you compete your Friesians???

SM xXx

[Showing Mad]

WOW!!:eek: :eek: :eek: Garnetfox he is a stunner!!!!

SM xXx

[Styric]

How was the chestnut registered? I thought the FPS had ruled that the red factor (chestnut) can no longer be registered, as well as no white stars.

[blackhorses]

I think the red looks really cool, he must be a throwback as friesians weren't always black. Not sure how they managed to register him though?! Maybe they got him registered as a foal when they are kind of brown and fuzzy looking and then he moulted out red?!! Still cool though!
Glad you all liked my horses, yup am really proud!!:D :D

[pengapenga]

How was the chestnut registered? I thought the FPS had ruled that the red factor (chestnut) can no longer be registered, as well as no white stars.

The chestnut friesian is more than likely registered as Foalbook. However it is very unlikely that he holds an FPS breeding licence as part of the stallion inspection is a dna test to check for the chestnut gene. There is a small amount of breeders that are interested in breeding the Fox Friesians.

[vciky]

Originally Posted by Styric
How was the chestnut registered? I thought the FPS had ruled that the red factor (chestnut) can no longer be registered, as well as no white stars.

I would agree with Pengapenga and he is probably b book registered. This means that he wouldnt be acceptable to breed from, in fact, as pengapenga and blackhorses will agree, it is incredibly difficult to have your stallion 'approved' by the FPS as the criteria is very strict! This is probably the main reason why Freisian horses breeding is at a very high standard.

You can breed from unnaproved stallions but you cannot register them with 'full' papers I believe.

Vicky

[leoquine]

I've seen Fire Magic in real life -- he is beautiful and not a fake, despite what many people think ;) At the show, people thought that he was just spray painted or something, but I pet him and he wasn't greasy with paint. He's a pure friesian.
I'm not quite sure how he is registered, but if you get a chance to see him, do so! He's amazing -- I'd say better than the Lipizzaners, though they were great too :cool:

Also -- chestnut frieisians are possible since a black and a black can make a chestnut, seeing as chestnut, grey, and black are all base colours. And also, friesians can be grey because of this. I have never heard of or seen a grey friesian but it's possible -- though it's almost as rare as chestnut. Hope you people find this info interesting :)

[GarnetFox]

I didn't think grey was a base colour? Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeev? Chev is the queen of horse genetics, she'll know. :D

[leoquine]

Oh my -- I meant to say bay :eek: Sorry about that! I'm a little dizzy today, I have the flu :(
Though a grey friesian would be beautiful :D

[pengapenga]

I would agree with Pengapenga and he is probably b book registered. This means that he wouldnt be acceptable to breed from, in fact, as pengapenga and blackhorses will agree, it is incredibly difficult to have your stallion 'approved' by the FPS as the criteria is very strict! This is probably the main reason why Freisian horses breeding is at a very high standard.

You can breed from unnaproved stallions but you cannot register them with 'full' papers I believe.

Vicky

He could be b book too, it could also mean that if he is bred to a pure friesian mare his foal will may be registered with b2 book. Horses on this book are not desirable and are actually not inspected at a keuring, however their foals maybe inspected. It is all very complicated:eek: :)

The stallions have to go through a keuring to be inspected if the judges like what they see the stallion has to then do a stallion proving which can take three weeks to do. The stallions have to be evaluated on performance ability, terperament and overall manners. He is tested (and must perform well) in dressage, driving, and pulling a sledge. Pedegree requirements, vet exam, x-ray evaluation, semen analysis, chestnut factor testing and Dna testing:eek:

The judges may also grant a breeding licence to a young stallion that will depend on prodgeny. So at the next keuring the stallion and his babies are inspected and they can decide from there if the licence can still be issued to the stallion. If a stallion has a full breeding licence this can be cancelled at the next keuring, it is not a lifetime licence.

Foal book stallions can breed and their babies can be registered into b2 book. A foalbook stallion with a breeding licence foals can be registered b book.

[vciky]

It is all very complicated


:eek: :D :D

You're not kidding!! Although the whole breeding / inspections/ approval business is rigorous to say the least:rolleyes: It is this attention to detail that has revived the breed from almost dire straits:( I think this is why it is so difficult to find a 'bad' example of the freisian breed - they are all so beautiful:D

Vicky

[Styric]

I've seen Fire Magic in real life -- he is beautiful and not a fake, despite what many people think ;) At the show, people thought that he was just spray painted or something, but I pet him and he wasn't greasy with paint. He's a pure friesian.
I'm not quite sure how he is registered, but if you get a chance to see him, do so! He's amazing -- I'd say better than the Lipizzaners, though they were great too :cool:

Also -- chestnut frieisians are possible since a black and a black can make a chestnut, seeing as chestnut, grey, and black are all base colours. And also, friesians can be grey because of this. I have never heard of or seen a grey friesian but it's possible -- though it's almost as rare as chestnut. Hope you people find this info interesting :)

Yup, chestnut friesians do exist and can be bred from black. It has nothing to do with being 'base' colors, it has to do with the fact chestnut is a recessive gene. That means that both parents have to carry a copy to get a chestnut, and it can be carried far down the line. Hence the 'red factor' testing. This is testing to see if they carry the recessive chestnut gene.

If B book registrations are undesirable, and that's the only way he could be registered why are they implying that he's a 'Registered' friesian (basically implying he's fully registered), not an undesirable throwback? At least that's what I seem to get from it :) I could be wrong.

[pengapenga]

If B book registrations are undesirable, and that's the only way he could be registered why are they implying that he's a 'Registered' friesian (basically implying he's fully registered), not an undesirable throwback? At least that's what I seem to get from it :) I could be wrong.

He may well be registered with the FPS as Foalbook Stallion same as Frits however he can not be termed a Studbook Stallion, simply because of his strong chestnut gene he will not pass the strict stallion inspection that the FPS have. If he breeds to a friesian mare that prodgeny may be registered as a b2 book (this registry is to register the prodgeny of Foalbook stallions who have not received the breeding licence). I think the stallion you are referring to lives in the USA and there are a number of societies there that may register him, I am not very clued up with the American friesian scene. I know that they have two main ones that are affiliated with the FPS and the German studbook.

There is another term you may come across when looking at friesian stallion and that is Ster Stallion this means he has gone to a keuring and been judged to have great movement, and conformation however not all Ster Stallions will be granted a breeding licence:)

This is where it all gets complicated:o :D

[Daffy Dilly]

Sod the genetics and stud book.

Which one can I steal? :D

[pengapenga]

Which one can I steal? :D

quickly running down to the paddock to check frits is there;) :D

[Showing Mad]

Pengapenga, how old is Frits?? Did you manage to get any more pictures of him in the paddock? Would love to see more pictures of him, hes a real stunner!! :D

SM xXx

[Estant]

Here are some pics of my friesian gelding, Noble Valour, ridden by my instructor in SA.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7386/dsc08072ng.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1599/dsc07609qb.jpg

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/9977/dsc07944xr.jpg

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/208/domcantersml6qb.png

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8323/valourinalevade0nw.jpg

[vciky]

Here are some pics of my friesian gelding, Noble Valour, ridden by my instructor in SA.


WOW!!! Noble by name and Noble by nature LOL - He is a real beauty, very proud horse:D

Vicky

[vimto92]

Vicky just looked at that picture and yes it is very decieving. I think its because you are back in the picture if you get me so when you try and measure it off in your head it doesn't work....lol.....took me ages to grasp...hmm..de.....hmm :rolleyes:

[pengapenga]

Estant welcome to NR:D It is nice that another friesian owner is a member.

Noble is beautiful.:) He has very nice movement:)

[Estant]

Thanx!!
I'll put some more on when I get a chance

[blackhorses]

WOW!! what a gorgeous horse Estant!, really fancy action! Welcome to NR, Warning it's addictive! :D :D

[coblover26]

I used to ride a friesian. :)He was called Argie, and a stallion.
Such a gorgeous horse but sadly had to be put down late last year due to cancer. I was sooo upset when i heard. :(:(:(
He was the first stallion i had ridden and such a calm one aswell :(:(:(

[Showing Mad]

Estant welcome to NR :D :D :D Another Friesian owner, god, one more persons hore to want...:rolleyes: lol! Hes a stunner too! I love the first and third photos! Very posy posh boy!:D

SM xXx