meroth headstall/indian bosal and scawbrig

[No_Angel]

is the action of the meroth. indian bosal, the same as the scawbrig?
im thinking the indian bosal would be good, but dont want to think about ordering one from america if the scawbrig will do the same thing.

meroth- http://www.trekkingsaddles-webshop.com/easyshopmaker/tn_e35_1.jpg
indian bosal- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7220297775&category=3177&fkxs=1
scawbrig- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Scawbrig-Bitless-Bridle-All-sizes-loads-of-colours_W0QQitemZ7210545585QQcategoryZ3169QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[No_Angel]

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[esse]

I like the libby's scawbrig because it has the support in the corner to stop the noseband dropping. The bosal you pictured is lovely and thick, though, and looks good, too.

Your link for the Meroth didn't work, but I found this link which describes it:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6591589.html

It sounds very like the Dr Cook, tbh, with its crossover head huggin/squeezing straps - but I do NOT like the idea that one can fix studs to the inside to apply pressure - nasty nasty nasty!


They all have slightly different actions. The Scawbrig is probably the simplest and the easiest, and has been in use in the UK for generations. I am well over 50 and it was in use when I was a child. It fell out of widespread favour for many years, but has recently returned with a vengeance, many people claiming that it is "new". It isn't.

[No_Angel]

this is the link for the meroth http://www.trekkingsaddles-webshop.com/html/shop_meroth.html click n the picture of it and it will bring up a discription.
the meroth crosses in the chin groove, the dr cook crosses under the whole head, so slightly different.
ive made a meroth style attachemnt last night to try on murf, but i do like the look of the indian bosal, as unlike the scawbrig/meroth, it also squeezes around the front of his nose, not just in his chin groove.

[esse]

Ok ... still don't like the idea of the attachment of studs ... not sure what that says about the inventor.

I like the look of that bosal, as I said. They are all very individual things though, so it is what your horse goes best in that's the best thing to buy. It's a good idea to make mock-ups as you're doing and see how they work and how your horse accepts them.

[No_Angel]

can you point me in the direction where it says it has studs? i cant seem to find it on the discription.

[esse]

No, the Dutch site doesn't mention studs, but if you look at the link for the patent, it specifically mentions the fitting of studs:

"The crossover feature of the bitless bridle provides for persuasive, but non-painful, pressure to be applied to the whole of the opposite side of the head of the horse, from poll to chin or for rapid alternate pressure to be applied to both sides of the head. ..Studs of different sizes can be fitted in a range of locations, depending upon the amount of pressure required ..."

It doesn't say it has to have the studs fitted, I will grant you, but I don't like the mindset of someone whose thinking goes in the direction of fitting studs on "regions of special acuity at the poll and behind each ear of the animal" ...

JMHO of course.

[No_Angel]

that would be a dr cook type bridle then, as it is from poll to chin, the meroth is only the chin groove.

[esse]

OK - if you go to the patent website, Erwin Meroth has several items on there. At a cursory glance I've found two very different bitless bridles and a trailer with an elevating roof! So I think we are talking about two very different things albeit both invented by the same person.

Do you read German? If do, he has a very interesting website at http://www.merothisch.com/prod.htm
He is a prolific inventor it seems.

[No_Angel]

he does seem to be a bit of an inventor doesnt he!

[LodgeRopes]

If anyone is interested in the Indian Bosal......
We have a friend in the USA that makes a similar item but much cheaper, around US$15.00
Here is a link to her ebay auctions for Indian Bosals

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Indian-Hackamore-Lime-Green-High-Visibility_W0QQitemZ7223164194QQcategoryZ3177QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or email Johnette direct at horsearoundtack@yahoo.com
Johnny ships all over the world at reasonable prices

cheers all