full seat breeches

[fielder]

I have finally purchased a pair of full seat cavallo breeches. I rode out in them for the first time yesterday I also had my new boots on. I found the full seat very comfortable and I felt quite secure in the saddle. The only thing which I noticed was that my seat was too secure for canter. Has anybody else found this?

[Just.Jump]

This is why I despise "grippy" (suede) bareback pads. Riding is a matter of balancing and motion, not an attempt to glue your backside to the saddle- motion is a requirement!

However, I'm happiest bareback/slippery smooth leather saddles. I seem to be a rarity.

[fielder]

I have to agree but then what is the point of having full seat breeches?

[Just.Jump]

I really don't think there is any unless you are in an uncomfortable saddle, or are so bony that you can't sit down comfortable ^.~ But, most riders are not of the very very vey skinny build. I think alot of it is aesthetic- personally if I can notice that they are full seat I don't find them as attractive as plain knee-patch breeches. Mostly dressage riders seem to find use for them.

However, english saddles are practically feather cushions compared to western saddles or bareback, so I've never felt the need to add more layers between the saddle and myself.

[sidesaddlelady1]

I have to agree but then what is the point of having full seat breeches?
Well, I find full seat breeches more comfortable than those with knee patches when riding side saddle as the edge of the knee patch can rub a blister behind your right knee. (A good reason for wearing tights as a lot of ss authorities recommend) However, on the larger lady full seat breeches can be very unflattering especially the contrast colour ones if the light/dark colour pattern isn't very carefully considered!

I used to like "newmarket" jodhs. The knee pad extended right down the lower leg and as they were double layered fabric you had protection from rubbing stirrup leathers and so you could wear ankle boots without chaps. Cooler in summer. Sadly, no-one seems to make them anymore. At least, I haven't seen them for years.

[de_Stille_een]

I really don't think there is any unless you are in an uncomfortable saddle, or are so bony that you can't sit down comfortable ^.~ But, most riders are not of the toothpick eating-disordered build.

However, english saddles are practically feather cushions compared to western saddles or bareback, so I've never felt the need to add more layers between the saddle and myself.

Hey-- I actually happen to be one of those "eating-disordered" toothpicks (in reality... I eat greasy mexican food at least four times a week, and I'm absolutely in love with hydrogenated fats. And hey-- it might be clogging my arteries... but somehow it's not making me gain weight. Oh how I love my metabolism). Anyway- :D

Not only is my rear end extremely un-padded and bony... I also broke my tailbone a summer back, and it's really quite difficult to put a cast on that general region of your body, so it really ends up staying broken and/or crooked. Meaning... I can't even sit in a car for half an hour without gettin' a sore seat. I've found english saddles to be most comfortable because the seats aren't quite rock-solid, and when I ride huntseat, your seat's hardly ever in the seat, and also because the high rise of the cantle on my western saddles hit my tailbone at an odd angle-- ouch!

However... I don't know what kind of full-seat breeches you've been wearing, but none of mine offer any sort of padding whatsoever. I personally really like full seat breeches, simply because I like having the extension of the grip all the way up the thigh. I could do without the actual seat, but my, wouldn't that look terrible!

For me... I ride the canter in a forward seat, so my hind isn't glued to the seat of my saddle, but I must admit-- the few times I tried it, it was a bit annoying.

My solution was to get a really thin fleece cover for the seat of my saddle, which allowed me to take advantage of the grippiness all the way through the thighs, but not in the seat. Wonderful :rolleyes:

[Wally]

...but your backside should't be sliding about in the saddle in canter!

[Just.Jump]

Hey-- I actually happen to be one of those "eating-disordered" toothpicks (in reality... I eat greasy mexican food at least four times a week, and I'm absolutely in love with hydrogenated fats. And hey-- it might be clogging my arteries... but somehow it's not making me gain weight. Oh how I love my metabolism).

So jealous (I'm gearing up for a 5 mile run in about an hour or two :rolleyes: ). Us regular metabolism-ed people envy you! :cool: As for 'padding', I just mean an extra layer. Although, now that you mention it that way, I'm picturing full-seat breeches with bags of padding on the bum now.
How is the horse/boarding situation coming?

[vimto92]

...but your backside should't be sliding about in the saddle in canter!
Chuckles!

I considered them for a while - look soooo comfy!:D I mean c'mon.....if you've got a bony bum and are riding in a battered RS saddle.....then maybe its best to have them.:p

[chickflick1066]

Sorry to sound a bit dumb, but could someone please show me a pic showing the differences between full seat jods and..half seat jods?:o

[RachelEvent]

Exactly Wally :D Your seat shouldn't really be moving an inch in canter, the movement should be coming from your lower back and gentle rotation of the seatbones - no sliding motion.

I love full-seat jods, much more comfortable.

[Wally]

I wear them all the time, love them, sticky bum jodhs, that and a doeskin saddle and you can't fall off.

[teapot]

I prefer the full seat to jods that have knee patches. Not sure why, just feel more comfortable with a full seat

[de_Stille_een]

Just.Jump-- I spoke with the managers of every local RS-- it didn't turn out that great. The ones I did like, I couldn't afford, and they didn't have enough for me to do in order to work off board. The ones who had work for me, or the ones I could afford... I really didn't like. But, it's all right. A time for everything :rolleyes:

ChickFlick-- here you go! The first is a pair of "knee-patch breeches," and the second pair are full-seats.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/654/kneepatch8sq.jpghttp://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4767/fullseat7ki.jpg

[Just.Jump]

That's too bad >.<

My oh my, breeches tucked in and high waisted certainly have an effect on the feamle form o.O

[Wally]

Let's not go into the effect it has on my female form!

let's just say "Muffin top" :o :o :o

[GarnetFox]

Being very short, some jodhpurs come right over my belly and just below my boobs. All I'd need is a pair of braces and a cloth cap and I could go to a party as a grandad. :D

[Vicki&Milo]

Being very short, some jodhpurs come right over my belly and just below my boobs. All I'd need is a pair of braces and a cloth cap and I could go to a party as a grandad. :D

Funny you should say that, I had a pair of hand-me-downs and had to wear braces with them to hold them up, it was an elegant look I can tell you :D
Vicki xx

[Just.Jump]

Let's not go into the effect it has on my female form!

let's just say "Muffin top"

Amazing how we're the gender that's 'supposed' to be skinny, while we naturally carry more fat than the men :rolleyes: I'm not exactly itching to slide on my pair next weekend to see and english horse >.<;;

[Harvey99]

...but your backside should't be sliding about in the saddle in canter!

...Exactly Wally Your seat shouldn't really be moving an inch in canter, the movement should be coming from your lower back and gentle rotation of the seatbones - no sliding motion.

Hmm. That's interesting. My riding instructor teaches that you should "slide" in the seat during canter, and she yells "slide!", "slide" during lessons..............................??

[Wally]

If you shovel with your backside you force your weight into the horse's back causing him to hollow on each stride. It's hard work for both of you.

What you need to to is feel your seatbones, let your backside rock on your seatbones on each stride, forward and back, growing taller and taller on each upward swing of the horse's back. Your spine will flex in and out, making it shorter and longer, thus taking up and moving with the rise and fall of the horse's back.

Polishing the saddle and sliding in the saddle is just going to make you unsteady in the saddle and give the horse a sore back.

[Captain Equidan]

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4767/fullseat7ki.jpg

Wow! Now thats the sorta pic a guy could have on his desktop! :rolleyes: :D ;)

[fielder]

The seat on mine is an imitation suade but there are some full seat jods I have seen in which the seat is of a lighter material than the main part of the jodphur. Has anybody else seen this?