Standing on concrete - how long?

[chickflick1066]

When a horse is tethered on the yard on concrete, what's the longest you'd leave him? And how long before standing too long could do some damage?

Cheers.

[Tim]

Standing on the concrete may not necessarily damage the hoss, but the lack of circulation may produce a 'big leg', ie, a swollen leg where fluid has collected. This would only occur after many hours of standing and generally only in a bigger hoss.

[chickflick1066]

Ok, I've got to bring Stumps in for hay during the day, but due to my lack of stable (I cannot really afford it:o ) she'll have to be tied from either 8am-2pm, 2pm-5pm or 8am - 5pm.

I was thinking that even the shortest period of those times would cause some damage due to the lack of movement...?

[Shadowlark]

that's a long dull time to stand tied..and may result in some bad habbits and a cranky horse. I would be worried about her stocking up standing that long with few movement options.. also the risk of her getting into trouble is high, things like getting the halter caught on something, a lead rope getting twisted or caught on something Hay net issues (I know of a lot of horses who got into serious trouble left unattended with hay nets) It's ok to do things like that on occasion, but daily, It just increasees the risk.

The reason she can't be fed out in her field is what?
our horses don't have a stable, they are always out and happy that way :) There are paddocks of which Splash has one because he thinks he is a stallion and can't be turned out with the others or.. well a lot of nastiness starts. In our paddocks the horses have hay feeders - which are really just four sided boxs that prevent the hay getting soiled or blown away :)

[rianne21]

it stumps being bought in for hay to prevent fights occuring with the others then?

[chickflick1066]

The reason she can't be fed out in her field is what?
She's turned out with 30 other horses, and being near the bottom of the pecking order - shes got no chance with lose hay being thrown out.

[chickflick1066]

it stumps being bought in for hay to prevent fights occuring with the others then?Yeah, you're right. She needs this extra roughage but we don't have a stable so :(

[rianne21]

oh bless, is there a friend who would be happy to let stumps use their stable for a little while until u maybe have enuff money to rent a stable of your own , even if its until summer time? i mean what would you do if stumps was injured and put on box rest? x
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[Shadowlark]

Is there anyway to build her a corral/paddock to eat in? Wouldn't have to be fancy or even pretty for that matter, but that way she could eat in peace without as many risks of getting into trouble.

Has she lost weight? a lot of times a lot of nonsense goes on when the feed first goes out - and settles down in no time. LOL sorry these are silly questions you have probably already thought of it.. my friend tho was sure her horse HAD to be fed seperate but in reality within 20 mins of being fed her mare was eating happy as you please with the rest of them (35 or so)

[chickflick1066]

They'd let me rent one of the stables temporarily. Looks like i'm gonna have to scrimp and save to get her a stable...

There is a 'sick paddock' which I might ask to pay extra if I can keep her in over night with 2 haynets...do you reckon thats fair?

[rianne21]

that wasn't meant to sound funny by the way! i just thought u may have had a solution for if she was on box rest, and could maybe use that idea? or is there a spare paddock?

[rianne21]

yea i know its not easy hun, not sure what the prices of stables are in your area, but where i am the cheapest is £15 a week and we still paid for it in summer even tho that seemed silly! but it gave monty a nice bit of cool shade so he could chill for the midday sun :0)

[chickflick1066]

Oh, don't worry Rianne ;) I might suggest the sick paddock idea.

How much should I offer to ask for exclusive night turnout in there?

[Shadowlark]

That could work! Although I personally would just leave her with lose hay not hay nets.. unsupervised they can be carrer ending.. or worse. I have come in to it in the morning.. it was never good.

[Tim]

I wouldn't recommend you leave a horse tied up for even the shortest period of the times given. It's better to find another way of getting your horse fed, while out and untied.

[rianne21]

yea i don't see why it wouldn't work. its not like she'ss be in it forever and it would give her a bit of chill out time without the others harrassing her. yea hay on the floor is the best option i gone right off of haynets after finding my old pony wearing one as a ballet shoe! he just got frustrated when he had emptied it and by the looks of things he had been at it all night trying to get it off the ring!

[chickflick1066]

I wouldn't recommend you leave a horse tied up for even the shortest period of the times given. It's better to find another way of getting your horse fed, while out and untied.Those were my thoughts too, i'm just a bit of a novice so need to check with you wiser NRers before I make any decision:o

[becs]

Isn't there anywhere you can put up temporary electric fencing to make a little enclosure for her to pad about in and have the hay off the ground over a few hours on her own?

I've seen horses & ponies tied up for hours at the RS (between being used) - they look bored out of their minds, expressionless eyes staring into space, not nice if you can avoid it...

[Mehitabel]

i'd put up with the 2 - 5 option, as long as she has hay and water all the time and ideally she is in the shade/shelter if it rains. we try not to leave them tied out that long, but sometimes we have to and none of ours have died from it yet. it's not ideal, but sometimes needs must - getting her fed is more important.

if a horse got filled legs from three hours of standing still i would be worried that there was something else wrong - that's not normal.

our liveries are free to use any of our stables as long as the horse who is in there overnight doesn't need it, so it would be unlikely to arise at ours, but of course everywhere has different rules.

[Bebe]

Quite a few horses on my yard are tied up on the yard with haynets for several hours, probably no more than 4 hours total but they seem fairly happy with this routine. We also have more horses than stables (grass liveries don't get stables) but can't really put hay out in the field as there are approx 25 horses and it would be carnage, even with several bales put out. YO can't get the tractor in the field once it's really muddy so big bales aren't an option either. Most people bring in overnight but those without stables use the yard instead.

None of the horses have bad habits and seem happy to stand and eat for as long as there is hay in front of them. I haven't heard anyone complaining about filled legs (which can happen in a well bedded or even matted stable with some horses). I personally wouldn't feel comfortable leaving my horse unsupervised for this length of time, I don't like tying her up at all if I or someone else can't be around to keep an eye on her, just in case, but beyond that I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

[coblover26]

I don't know whether they would let you but couldn't you put Stumpy in the indoor school and put some hay in for her. That way she isn't ebing tied up, she can move around, mess around in the school by herself and eat her hay :)