Linda Tellington Jones's Lindell?

[NuttyMare]

"Lindell
This bitless bridle is a side-pull with a stiff lariat rope nosepiece and soft leather chin straps. In TTEAM Training we use it to start young horses and with horses who are sensitive in the mouth, overbent and/or for riders who have a tendency to balance off their hands. Our Lindell is made of dark-brown, quality leather. It buckles under the jowl to keep the nosepiece and cheek straps from slipping. "

http://www.lindatellingtonjones.com/ShopOnline/3Lindell1.jpg


Was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this? It looks a little flimsy...

[No_Angel]

ive just seen this thread:)
i was looking into the lindel, its basically a rope nose sidepull.
i have a rope nose sidepull and it works well for schooling, and does have fairly good brakes for what it is.
the jowel strap is good for finer head horses, my cob was fine without the jowel strap but it was very big on my tb and she would have needed the jowel strap to keep it still on her head.
maddie really seemed to like it, but i got her a happywheel instead.

[Casey76]

I would have thought the "stiff lariat rope" for the nose piece could be very severe (having actually played with a lariat whilst in the States).

Having said that I don't have much expereince with bit less riding (apart from Parelli), so I probably don't know enough to comment properly! :p

[No_Angel]

the rope nose ive got on mine is very stiff, but i use a fluffy sleeve over it.

[Crystal Fire]

It looks as if it could be quite severe. I don't see the point when you can start young horses in a rope halter or even a headcollar, when you're working with a youngster it's a blank canvas, so you make them as responsive as you like. As for people who balance off their hands, I wouldn't like them to be doing that with one of these any more than I would like them to do it with a bit. They need to ride in a rope halter or headcollar too :)
There seem to be more and more bitless bridles being developed. Moving away from the simple basic bitless principles and towards gadgets if you get what I mean?

[No_Angel]

the lindel is a very basic bitless, after all its only a sidepull with a bit of rope across the nose.
headcollars dont provide enough stability on the face for a youngster, i rode my x racer in her headcollar last week for the first time in a while and havent schooled in one properly and we wer ejumping xc fences, the headcollar was tight, but still slipped down her neck, moving the noseband higher up her face, if this happened to a youngster the sudden change in pressure area might confuse/annoy them. Same with a rope halter, moves around to easily.
the sidepull can stay in the correct poistion on their head.
im ot saying headcollars and rope halters are bad, its just not ideal when you get past the first sitting on their back stage.

[Crystal Fire]

A properly fitted rope halter shouldn't move that much, but I don't use headcollars so can't speak for them. I ride anywhere in a rope halter with two reins, but also I don't expect to be doing much pulling to move it around the face. I'd progress to a bit at some point though :)

[No_Angel]

thats probably where we differ, i wouldnt progress onto bit, id keep them bitless as i prefer it, and my horses do.
as a young horse wouldnt know to move off the leg and body turns aswell as an older horse, thenyou would have to move your reins out to help them understand. a rope halter, in my experience, moves about the face and scruffs the hair.

[doris]

The Lindell is made with a latex covering over the noseband.
It also has jowel straps instead of throat straps to prevent slipping.
It can be used in combination with a snaffle bit.
Can be used to start a young horse, with horses with a sensitive mouth, overbant horses, to help riders who have a tendancy to balance with their hands.
The Lindell only works with pressure on the nose, not under the chin, or the poll.

Hope this helps, but it is a very quick reply to a very long subject. With any sort of 'different' bridle, it is always adviseable to see it used by someone trained to do so and have it explained properly.

(from a TTEAM Practitioner in Training)