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25th Mar 2006, 03:30 PM
25th Mar 2006, 05:02 PM
I read his page and he is a friesian dutch warmblood cross, I guess that's where the colour comes from. I do believe you can get chestnut friesians though.
25th Mar 2006, 07:20 PM
25th Mar 2006, 11:29 PM
He's not a real fresian right? Just a cross with a fancy name? Whatever he is thought I *want* him - I think he's fab! aj xx
26th Mar 2006, 04:33 AM
Oh, I want ONE!
26th Mar 2006, 05:51 AM
Heres a chestnut Friesian,is'nt he gorgeous!:D
26th Mar 2006, 08:35 AM
He's a Friesian (which are black, with the occasional chestnut which is usually refused entry to the stud book) crossed with Warmblood, which do carry Tobiano - he's 50% Friesian and the coat pattern came from the Warmblood.
They do have two very misleading statements on teh site; first is
"What percentage of pinto offspring does *Nico throw?
Genetically, the tobiano gene typically reproduces tobiano 50% of the time. *Nico to date has thrown a much higher percent , 60-75% of his offspring to date have been pinto."
The implication is that using *Nico gives you a high chance of a tobiano foal from solid mares. In fact any solid mare put to him has no more than a 50% chance of a tobiano foal, regardless of what luck has meant he's thrown so far.
The second that worries me;
"I want to breed to *Nico but mare is small, is that a problem?
God kind of takes care of this problem. It is the mare that determines the size of the foal at the time of birth and then the foal will mature to the size that it is genetically created to be. Pretty awesome design hugh?! Not just a coincidence............:)"
And not actually true in any way, shape or form either. In fact using a heavier built stallion of this type on smaller mares means there is a considerable risk that the foal will be too big for the mare to birth; God does not take care of this problem at all. Mares do not limit the size of foals; genetics dictate the size of the foal, and as a huge number of people know from experience using a stallion significantly bigger or heavier than the mare can and often does result in the death of mare, foal or both.
26th Mar 2006, 12:18 PM
I agree with the mare if it is small should not be put to a huge stallion as often the bone of the foal is just too big to pass out of the mares pelvis. we had a lady who wanted to put a 13.2 fell pony to our 16.2 friesian - he has 10.5 inches of bone! - needless to say we pointed her to a smaller stallion elsewhere!
Chev do you know what percentage of the chestnut friesians offspring would be chestnut and is there a test for the gene responsible ie. would you get a chestnut foal from a pure black friesian mare put to this stallion, is chestnut a ressesive gene? Just wondering!:D
26th Mar 2006, 12:29 PM
28th Mar 2006, 04:54 AM
The mare determines the size of the foal worries me, too. I can see some small mare being bred to him and then having a difficult time foaling, perhaps even the mare dying.
Perhaps someone should e-mail them about that? Or would it be considered too rude? I'd do it myself, but I doubt they'd really care to hear what a 16 year old girl thinks.
28th Mar 2006, 05:48 PM
29th Mar 2006, 03:30 AM
It wouldn't hurt to e-mail them, but again, who would care what a 16 year old girl thinks?
29th Mar 2006, 07:05 PM
30th Mar 2006, 02:57 AM
You could give it a try, stating the obvious/facts.:)
How are they going to know your age anyway?
Good point.. I just figured they'd somehow find out just by the way I talk/type.
30th Mar 2006, 07:44 PM
31st Mar 2006, 06:15 PM
but besides the point, isn't he magnificent?!? i love him so much. if i save that horse from the slaughter house, i might breed her to nico!
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