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all-hart
18th Apr 2006, 05:40 PM
I was just wondering if anybody knows of anything on the above breed?

I have searched google, but it hasn't come up with much.

Are the Iberian Horses a breed of their own, apart from Andalusians and
Lusitanos?

Or are they basically spanish horse x something else?

If anybody has got any photos of them as well?

Bay Mare
18th Apr 2006, 06:11 PM
There's a large Iberian contingent on Enlightened Equitation (http://www.enlightenedequitation.com). I think that there's a thread (http://www.enlightenedequitation.com/members/forums/index.php?showtopic=7555&hl=iberian) with piccies of them on too which may help you.

As far as I'm aware (someone correct me if I'm wrong), the term 'Iberian' is a catch all for Andaulcians, Lusitanos, in other words the horses native to the Iberian peninsula.

My next (2nd) horse is going to be a Luso :)

all-hart
18th Apr 2006, 06:38 PM
Thanks bay mare.

I'll take a look at the site. See what they say about them.

SupaTania
18th Apr 2006, 07:24 PM
Being of portuguese descent, and spending countless summers on the iberian peninsula, I have see many lusos and I must say they are absolutely gorgeous. I have taken 5 lessons on a Lusitano stallion while vacationing in portugal and it was unlike anything else. They were SO well trained that there were little children riding the stallions.

Definately something worth looking into if you're looking at a new horse.

janet hakeney
18th Apr 2006, 08:22 PM
'Iberian' horses include PSL (Pure Sangue Lusitano) and PRE (Rure Raza Espanola) It might also be stretched to include the endangered Sorraia horse of Portugal, the blood from which is in both the Spanish and Portuguese horses.

The term Andalusian used to apply to both the horses of Spain and Portugal until the stud books were closed. Now the above terms are correct although some people still call the Spanish horses Andalusians.

I breed and import Portuguese Lusitanos (PSL) in the UK if you need any more information about that breed.

ambatt
18th Apr 2006, 08:32 PM
Iberians is a term that covers the Spanish and Portuguese horses, it also includes the Sorraia and the Minho primitive base stock still found in Portugal.

Iberian Breeds:

PRE - 'Andalusian'
PSL - 'Lusitano'
Alter Real
Minho
Sorraia
Mallorquina
Menorquina

all-hart
18th Apr 2006, 08:35 PM
Right i see now.

Iberian is just a term to group together all the spanish horses
from the Iberian area.

And they are not cross breeds.

So if a horse is say 1/2 adalusian would it still be classed as
Iberian and beable to be registered?

ambatt
18th Apr 2006, 09:40 PM
Only if his parents were registered or at least one of them!

For example if the sire was a registered PRE or even partbred you could register his get. The best PRE stallions are graded as APTO - approved for breeding, the ones that don't meet all the criteria are not graded APTO.

A half Andalusian is a partbred, and if his parents are not registered you could be kind and call them 'Spanishbred'. The term 'Iberian' really refers to the purebred horses of Spain and Portugal.

The BAPSH can tell you about the grading structure in more detail and also if the sire or dam is registered with them.http://www.bapshweb.co.uk/

Absolutely technically 'Iberian' has become a term to describe the 'Classical horses' of Spain and Portugal, The PRE, the PSL and the Alter-Real.

Hannah c
24th Jan 2007, 02:29 AM
Hey, Janet Hackeney. I have indeed drooled over the lusitanos in your signature, and I thank you. I'm wondering, first of all, are those your horses (or horse? the first three look to be the same, but the last is either different or younger??)? Also, the pics are small, so I can't completely tell, is the horse in the third photo piaffing with a lead rope and halter? I just love Iberians and their natural ability to collect like that.

janet hakeney
24th Jan 2007, 06:47 PM
is the horse in the third photo piaffing with a lead rope and halter?

Hi Hannah c....The link in my sig brings up four pics of the same horse. That is Negatiw who is now 13 years old and was my foundation stallion when I started my stud. He will piaffe/passage/spanish walk in only a rope halter...or indeed without one on at all. He was the only Lusitano in the UK to have passed the National Stallion Association Performance test. He show jumped with success up to 1m40, performed in a Classical Dressage display team, won and placed in Western Trail and Reining and was used on the UK Parelli display team. I am planning on driving him in his dotage!

If you look in the sub folders at the top of that page you will see loads of other Lusos that I have either owned, bred or had through my hands.