Irish Bog Pony?

[peeweesgal]

Hi,
I was just wondering if anyone can tell me what an Irish Bog Pony is. Like it's characteristics etc.

Thanks
Sarah x

[Wally]

They look very much like Icelandics, don't know about the temperament, there is a website, google it!

[peeweesgal]

Is the Irish Bog Pony the same as a Kerry Bog Pony?

Sarah x

[lindz]

See here:

http://www.kerrybogpony.org/

[lindz]

And here:

http://www.kerrybogvillage.ie/kbp/kerry_bog_ponies.htm

[ambatt]

I really, really want to DNA test these ponies to see if they are related to other breeds of native pony or if they really a remnant population from the long extinct Celtic Pony.

[Wally]

Have you approached them?

[peeweesgal]

Has who approached who?:p

Sarah x

[ambatt]

Have you approached them?

I emailed them months and months ago and had no reply - I would need to clear it with my University and then I would need a research grant and it is a bit anoraky:o

Might ask in September - it does kind of tie in with archaeology...

[Wally]

WHOM! Whom does daddy love?? :D :D ;)

Has Ambatt approached the Bog pony folk? You might be able to get some sort of research grant.....anyone doing a phd

[Wally]

Ambatt we cross posted!

We are thinking along the same lines.

[peeweesgal]

Sorry, I'm being a bit dumb atm!:p I just got in from a long hard day at school:p!
Do any of you know what kind of classes aan Irish Bog Pony can do at shows? I know the one I'm thinking of is amazing at jumping, but can they do any ridden classes?

sarah x

[lindz]

Is this any use ?:

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=NEWLOUNGE&Number=768191&Searchpage=1&Main=766340&Words=kerry+&topic=&Search=true#Post768191

[ambatt]

I would need to see the results and where the DNA fitted in with known populations with genetic markers for example the Highland, Shetland, Fjord and Icelandic all share similar DNA nd are related.

As far as I can make out the Kerry Bog Pony has been a breed for the past 500 years, but it does not make it a descendent of the Celtic Pony. The Icelandic has been bred pure for 1000 years.

it is intriguing how it has survived though, but I guess no more a miracle than the Exmoor, which is much more primitive.

I would imagine that now they are a recognised breed they can compete in any of the M&M showing classes.

[lindz]

Although they are a recognised breed they are not recognised by the NPS as a breed, neither is the Lundy or Eriskay, so no they cannot compete in ALL M&M showing classes. (Some local level shows include Eriskays in M&M)

I know that the Eriskay Pony Society is currently campaigning the NPS for recognition though.

[ambatt]

That is a bit harsh of the M&M judges I feel. The Lundy I can understand to a certain extent as it is a 'manufactured' breed. But the Eriskay and now the Kerry Bog Pony??

Do you know why they refuse to accept them? Is it because they have only had a Stud Book for 5 minutes relatively speaking? Just curious..

[lindz]

Yes I would say its due to stud book records and perhaps that they are so few in numbers.

If you are interested, perhaps email the NPS and ask for their views on the matter:

http://www.nationalponysociety.org.uk/

[Shannon_Clover]

Kerry Bog Ponies are not recognised as a Native Breed in Ireland :mad:
How stupid is that.
Only the Connemara and Irish Draught are recognised as Irish Native Breed.

I was interested in buying a mare under a Scheme for keeping Native Breeds like Irish cattle, equine etc.
You get a one one off grant, etc, forgot the rest.

I first my pony may possibly have been a Kerry Bog Pony. But i could be wrong. She died from Colic years ago.

Is it possible to DNA a breed from a lock of mane?
Or is it only by blood?

[teabiscuit]

if you have the hair root-its from this bit they get the DNA.
what a fascinating thread

[Shannon_Clover]

Ah, well, I will never know.
pity. :(

But thanks for the tip about where they get the DNA from.