Suffolk's

[kunama]

could any one tell me any thing about suffolk x's, i have one and have trawled the net and found three more! but that is it! any input?

[chickflick1066]

Suffolk Punch info (http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/suffolk.html#hist) Plenty of info here ;)

Suffolks are one of my favourite breeds of draught horses, and I know they are on the critical list for british breeds who are dangerously rare. I believe there's only 300 pure suffolks left.

(Also, SarahB has a suffolk punch x on here, and he's divine!)

P.S a piece of useless knowledge I know about SP - they are CHESNUT spelt without the T and there are 8 different shades of chesnut.

[jowyles]

There was one at my old RS she was really willing to please but was rescued in a very unwell condition and lost an eye :( She had a big blaze tho so im not sure she was pure, she was like 18hh mahoosive!

[kunama]

mmmmm, i'm debateing, i was SURE i wanted an arab colt to take with me to the states but thanks to Tanco (our SPx ) i'm wondering about a suffolk, they are so rare and they have such lovely temperments, but i have to think about this from a munitary point of veiw aswell. How popular would a suffolk or suffolk x be over there?

I know arabs have a big following in the states , but suffolks are a bit different and i'm wondering if i crossed them right if i could breed some really nice sport horses/ heavy to middle weight hunters? Perhaps if i put a longer leged suffolk stallion to a Gelderlander or one of the other big warmblood breeds to give the length of leg but the trainability of the suffolk. Also they dont move like cart horses, i think with a bit of 'blood' in them i could produce some realy top hunting types.

Whada ya think? Would it work? I love my arabs but i have to think about this practicaly so i figure exploreing this route won't do any harm at least.

[jowyles]

They would be nice but very wide! There seems to be a followeing for draft crosses in american so with the right marketing i think it would be popular. Wouldnt like to know how much a pure suffolk stallion would be tho :o

[chickflick1066]

I think a Pure SP would nicer, just to keep on the breeding of these rare breeds.

[kunama]

i agree , i would have to have at least one pure mare just to help the breed out, but i'd like to produce something more rideable and less like a preverbial brick sh1t house!

I hope what ever breed i decide on to buy a just weaned colt next summer so i'm shopping about now so i make the right decision, i looked at shire's but the are soooooooooo expensive!

[Danyele]

Ooooh! my old horse was a suffolk X. we had to have him registered with the Suffolk punch society (as proud as punch ;)) he was chunky stumbling beast :)

[JOJOBA]

There's a Suffolk x Haflinger at our yard, of all the weird crosses!
Chewitmonster used to loan him.

He's like sitting on a tabletop, really wide and chunky. He's beautiful looking but big and knows it! Shame they're so rare, pure suffolks are lovely.

xxx

[Sarah-B]

Well, I can't miss this opportunity to post a piccie of my gorgeous boy:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/Saxon-Clydie/Horses/TCApril2006sml.jpg

If you call The Suffolk Horse Society (here) (http://www.suffolkhorsesociety.org.uk/), they'll send you a copy of the magazine which has Suffolk's for sale.

Perhaps if i put a longer leged suffolk stallion to a Gelderlander or one of the other big warmblood breeds to give the length of leg but the trainability of the suffolk.

You won't get a Suffolk stallion with long legs as they are *meant* to be short-legged - a long-legged Suffolk wouldn't meet the breed standard.

[JOJOBA]

Just read your second post - draught horses are pretty popular in the states I think, esp Belgians and Percherons.
No reason why a suffolk shouldnt be too - go promote them before they die out!

xxx

[Peace]

Bring us a Suffolk!:D I don't know anyone who's seen one in person.

What part of the States are you coming to? Arabs really *don't* have a huge following in my part of it - most people think they're crazy, and lots of judges mark them down because they don't move like a TB.:rolleyes:

The last hunter's pace I went to, I saw probably a half-dozen obvious draft crosses. My vet breeds clydies, haffies are very popular, and fjords are gaining. So yes, I think drafts are catching on here.:)

[Sarah-B]

If I remember correctly, there are now actually more Suffolk's in the USA then there are in Britain.

Also, if you breed pure Suffolk's you are eligible for a grant towards the cost of their keep - this is due to them being so endangered....

[kunama]

wow , paid too keep horses! sound's good to me!

I know suffolks should have short legs , but they do seem to come in slightly different types, i like Theoden King but not golden grandchild for example.

We are hopeing to move to Arkansas, what would you call a typical heavy weight hunter in the states?Any pics! Ideas about breeds grately apreceated!

[Afellpony]

Suffolk Punches are gorgeous. There used to be one at a riding stables I went to. He was used for the 'big people'. When we were kids a Suffolk Punch called Prince used to call at the houses delivering coal.

[Peace]

We are hopeing to move to Arkansas, what would you call a typical heavy weight hunter in the states?Any pics! Ideas about breeds grately apreceated!

Hmmm. We don't really have the HW or MW cob-type horses here. At the hunts, you would see lots of TBs and Warmbloods, and you will see Quarter Horses doing everything!:) For the trail-riding set, especially among men, racking horses are popular - which means a gaited horse of any type. Most are Tennessee Walkerish - but some are small light pony-types.

You know what you might do - import cobs! You know, start a "safe cobs" market over here. You could get them comparatively cheaply where you are I guess - from what I read they seem the analog to our QH as a all-rounder with a good disposition - and they'd be a rarity over here!:)

[JOJOBA]

That's not a bad idea - the people who export gypsy horses to america make a KILLING.

I saw a 2yo piebald colt here, to make 15hh, beautiful example of a traditioncal cob, selling in the UK for about £2000.

Practically identical horse, same age, type, height etc, selling in the USA for $25,000.

:eek:

xxx

[kunama]

I thought about that but i figured why import when i can breed my own!

Excuse my ignorance but arent gaited horses quiet fine? What do bigger people ride over there? Do you think a type like this would go down well...........?

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c142/reductivani/P3190054.jpg

[kunama]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c142/reductivani/P5140103.jpg

Might start a thread in the cafe area, mods fell free to delete if they are too similar!

[Danyele]

ME! ME! I've met suffolks in person! I've ridden one bareback :p and I always go to the suffolk Punch show! of course it helps i live in suffolk...near kentwell hall, where they breed them...

[Peace]

TBH, there's not so much of the "am I too heavy for him" concern over here. At least in my part of the country, people figure "hey, it's a horse - must be strong enough to carry a human" and climb aboard.:rolleyes:

Luckily, quarter horses (probably the most popular breed here) are supposed to be good weight carriers.

Most of the gaited horses I've seen have comparable bone to a QH -but then they tend to be longer-backed so I don't know if they're up to carrying comparable weight. Most people here ride western and like gaited horses because that way they don't have to post (or rise to) the trot.

I think a horse like the one in the picture would be pretty popular.:) He's lovely.

I know my RS would like to have one or two horses like that for when heavy ladies or men want to ride.:)

[kunama]

Danyele, any names or numbers for me!?:p I spoke to a lady lastnight and am going to her stud soon to meet her's but i could do with more pics of differnet stallions any info grately recived!

[Giveitago]

I know of two wonderful suffolks who drive in Surrey.

You can see them on the horsetails programme on animal planet competing in the Fish Race in France last year. They are also the two horses riding on the beach in the opening credits.

They are Prince and Titan, driven by Daniel Brown. I think they originate from Send Holme, Surrey, it has beautiful stables and used to breed Suffolks. (it's a private house now).

I have driven both in my driving lessons and have hacked Titan. They are wonderfully sure footed, calm, friendly and well behaved and were originally bred to live in East Anglia. Short coated in the summer, no feathers to get wet in the winter and built to pull a large load.

Unfortunately, you don't see many for sale and I havent heard of a breeder lately.

I would be careful of cross breeding. there are plantly of big chestnut horses that already exist and it would be a shame to use a mare for anything but a true Suffolk. Just my opinion.

Hope you can find some thing on the web about the boys.

.

[dftighe]

Sarah B , What a beautiful boy you have!!!:cool:

[benslieblue]

my livery manager has a suffolk punch x cob mare - and she is chesnut!
feathers are gorgeous. she drives with her and she is just a honey
this is my bens girlsfriend!!:D