~*Not sure what to do*~ bsja pplz needed :) others too of course

[PinkGlamourGurl]

Title says it all! Totally :confused: I dont know what to do :( So the situation is:
I'm going to register bsja
Fleur could be a pony/horse
I'm 14
Fleur has a horse stride
I dont know what to do!!!

It all started tonight, in my lesson, well more like AFTER my lesson ;)
So in my lesson i was jumping a single upright then in an oxer. She jumped really nicely and only stopped once cos the fence was two crosses oxer thing :confused:

Then claire(RI) put it in a hogsback. I've never jumped anything like that before and was a bunch of nerves lol, but fleur really just got on with it.
The first time she went over it the middle bar was at 85cm. She took a huge leap and claire was laughing and really praising us, she said " God Nat, the middle pole could of been on 1.10m and she would of cleared that" :p I was well chuffed. Second time round she gave it a good clearance but not quite as big hehe.

Then claire put it in a triple bar. I was seriously peeing my pants, im such a wimp. She put the back bar on 85 and fleur was mega :D She was making a really nice shape over the fence and not struggling at all. So she stuck it up to 90 and again she cleared it.

At the end of my lesson (this is when it happened) Claire said she has real scope and she can f*****g jump as she put it. But she also asked how big she is 14.2/14.3 i said. She then said it might be worth registering her as a horse and me as a junior associate. Her reasons for this is she has really long strides and cant shorten enough so she thinks she'd struggle in ponies. Which i do agree with, at the last bsja i went in the clear round and it was the double she stopped at because she was too long and flat.

Spoke to YM about it and she totally disagrees and says that i'd be competing against adults, v. true but it wouldnt bother me, id rather be thrashed by older people than a seven year old on a 12.2 :p She said i have to MAKE her shorten but i dont really want to, claire says even she does shorten it wont be enough.

So what do i do? Register her as a pony and have two years "play" out of her OR register her as a horse and yes, compete against adults, but in the long run have more time to jump her, even if its just for enjoyment?

Someone please help. Any thoughts appreciated Natxxx

[WelshJumper]

When you say you did a bsja clear round was it a senior or junior show?

If i was you i would do junior's as you only ever get a few years as a junior :rolleyes:

Also you say you are nervos of new types of fences and the height {85-90cm} Rember senior British Novice starts at 80cm and the distances set for horses, My 15.2hh sometimes has problems going through double's and he jumps Newcomers/Foxhunter. But he can also shorten to a pony stride or extend to a large horse. {With enoff leg and gogo power, LOL!}

I would do some good flat work schooling to get your pony to shorten, even if you do deside to compete agansted seniors you sometimes need to shorten!!

Whear abouts are you??

[casey]

Rember senior British Novice starts at 80cm and the distances set for horses

Hey WJ you've not taken your pills this morning.:D BN starts at 90cm.

PGG. I agree with your YO. If I were you, i'd stay in juniors as long as possible. Too many juniors make the switch to seniors too quickly, and find a whole different ball game. :)

EDIT to add. If your worried about shortening your horse. You'll find that technical jumping REQUIRES you to shorten your horse at some point. Whether is for a tight turn or a short related distance etc. So shortening and lengthening should be part of your horses training anyway. That is the difference between Unafilliated, and affiliated courses, the technical content.

[MeMe]

Does it not start at 80 for juniors though?

[The Flying Irishman]

Is it not the new pre novice senior class that starts at 80cm:confused:

[casey]

Does it not start at 80 for juniors though?

Yep.;)

[kayjayhorses]

a little story for you: My friend had a 14.2 and took it him as a pony and rode as a Junior for a short time, once she turned 16 she then made the change to a horse and senior classes, she did really well with the early classes and even had an offer of 30k for him which she declined, but as she progressed through the classes he really began to struggle with the height and distances, in the end the horse really became depressed and stopped enjoying the comps and would just lay down in his stable in between classes (fully tacked) she stopped taking him out because it just wasn't fair in the end she gave the horse away to her uncle for a young rider. I'm not saying this will happen to yours but just wanted you to know so you can have a good think.

Personally I would stick to junior classes and enjoy those.

[PinkGlamourGurl]

Welsh Jumper- it was juniors, more precisely, the fence she stopped at was the first part of a 1 strided double(which is where the problem starts) im in the north east

Erm BN for juniors starts at 85cm i think

I'm gonna have a chat with my RI and other knowledgable people on my yard(haha technical word :p)

Might go jump on a ticket at a junior show this sunday- MIGHT. Really confused over what to do :(

Natxx

[Rips]

Stick to ponies :) You have to make her shorten, otherwise even in horse courses you'll get yourself into trouble. From watching your videos I think your problem is speed, its easier for her to take long strides if shes out and flat. Slow down and she'll have no problem shortening.
If she is capable of jumping horse courses like your IN suggests, then once you do some practice over short-striding courses she'll ace ponies.

I don't know what its like in the UK but here its much easier to get to the top of your sphere in ponies than in horses - it will be more rewarding if you have to tweak her style and work for it too. I know you're just doing it for fun but she'll be worth more registered as a pony as well (well she would be here)

I never got a chance to do ponies (too old by the time I got a horse) and its one of my biggest regrets. You have the rest of your life to do horses :)

[joey_olop]

I would stick to pony classes you will probably have more success-you say she has a horse stride but I think she will struggle in horse classes.

[PinkGlamourGurl]

Ok so most people are saying stay in juniors :) Thanks for your comments.

Rips- yes speed is a big problem, i've been trying to work on it, but it seems some days if theres a fence up she'll be zooming around.

Strange though i can put like a 10 yr old on her and put the fence upto about 90cm and she'll practically plod :confused: So my thoughts were that because when we compete i push her to go faster in the second round she clicks that when i ride her, she has to speed? I dont think i wind her up, i ride vicky the same way(nearly) and she doesnt do it shes naturally a speed machine :p

Oooh also a girl at the yard said she might be bringing her pony up(14.2) to a show and i can have a go :D and if i can ride him well, she might consider me doing bsja on him :D;) Natxxx

[WelshJumper]

LOL! Surves me right for relpying while harlf asleep, LOL.

[Tink!]

You only get a short time to play about and have fun being a junior! Enjoy it, dont rush up to seniors, we're far to serious :p ;).....
I'd give anything to haev my old 14.1 JA pony back, and be whizzing round junior courses, but nope, they say im too old...grr....

Enjoy it whilst your young enough to do it.... do lots of grid work to get her thinking and shortening.....

Have fun...xxx

[PinkGlamourGurl]

Thanks Azza :) Still havnt decided if im going down to jump on a ticket yet lol. Will definitely do gridwork :D Natxx

[casey]

LOL! Surves me right for relpying while harlf asleep, LOL.

Lol I knew you knew. Crazy woman:D :D

[KLASS]

i'd stick to jun classes even the move up from B/N to ***/newcomers in seniors the course get proggresivly harder and more technical,with shorten and lengthen a must,
if i had one wish it would bre to go and jump a juniors track one more time and enjoy it without rushing to join the big boys lol

[horse__obsessed]

I thought you could register her as a horse and then re-register when your 16 and jump seniors