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Lyndz & Siners
20th Jul 2006, 01:52 AM
Umm can anyone give me tips on how to improve, this is my and my 5 year old thoroughbred Siners

i need tips on anything BESIDES that im leaning forward to far - i already know that

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http://www.freewebs.com/lynnloh/DSCF0528%28b%29.jpg

piaffe*angel
20th Jul 2006, 03:49 AM
You are pinching your knees, and not releasing enough, I am not an instructor so I could not tel lyou how to fix these things, but I can see them :D

PinkGlamourGurl
20th Jul 2006, 06:31 AM
First of all Wow! Your horse is gorgeous! He makes a lovely shape over the fence, the pink bandages are a bonus too ;)

Im not very good at this but, your hands need to go up his neck a little more, bring your elbows in. Your gripping with the knee which has caused your lower leg to come back and your toes are out. I dont think your leaning forward too much, i think you jumped before your horse.

Overall lovely hoss, you look very happy together :) Natxxx

xLuckibrunette
20th Jul 2006, 07:02 AM
Ill have to aggree. You are giving a small release for the height you are jumping. If you could maybe lay a little more on the neck & not stand so much in the stirrups and slide your hands up his neck a few more inches his figure over the jump would be even more gorgeous than it already it. Good Luck. :)
P.S.-I give your horse props for not spooking to the table to the left of the jump. I know quite a few horse who would not even THINK of approaching a jump with a big scary table RIGHT next to it. :)

skye06
20th Jul 2006, 01:06 PM
Ok if you were in one of my lessons I'd be trying to get you to push your lower legs forwards slightly and push your heels down, That should let you relax your knees. Then on the leaning forward bit, try to think about pushing your bum towards the back of the saddle and not lifting it up quite as far. It may be just the photo but it looks like you are trying to hard to get your position.

Harleyhorse
23rd Jul 2006, 09:58 PM
I am no RI, but I find that a lot of riders pinch with their knees. I know for me the way that my RI and me fixed me from doing this was by droping my leathers a hole. It help me as it let me get more of my leg around the horses belly. Not saying that it will work for you but you could give it a try, and see if it help!

loser88
26th Jul 2006, 06:36 PM
Although the jump is only small you need to release with your hands more, you need to slide your bum back more- it's too high and too far forwards- did you get infront of your horse? Your lower leg could be more forward, and your elbows and knees could be tucked in more- but you have a LOVELY horse- I'm impressed he can cope with the umbrella!!!! :D

Herbie's mummy
26th Jul 2006, 07:45 PM
I personally don;t think you are leaing forwards too far , it's good with a youngster as it helps them (well i find any way)
Yep just don't grip with your knees so much, and ''give'' a little more :)
I also want to clap you for putting protection on his legs **claps** you see so many people with youngsters that just don't bother and spesh while the ground is hard!

loser88
27th Jul 2006, 06:09 PM
I personally don;t think you are leaing forwards too far , it's good with a youngster as it helps them (well i find any way)
Yep just don't grip with your knees so much, and ''give'' a little more :)
I also want to clap you for putting protection on his legs **claps** you see so many people with youngsters that just don't bother and spesh while the ground is hard!


REALLY??? I have always been told, and indeed found, that it's highly detrimental as they're trained incorrectly and if they happen to stop (more likely with a younger ride) then over their head you go, damaging their confidence....

Harleyhorse
30th Jul 2006, 06:35 PM
I was always taught that "throwing" your body at the jumps makes the horse have to throw its self to catch you. And not to say if that horse slams on the brakes what happens to you? Well YOU get thown over/on the jump. Thats just what I have been taught and to me, I know, that I can see and understand why we don't want to be thown a head of the moution. And you are also teaching the horse things you don't want them to learn.

Thats just my personal oppion
HH

Herbie's mummy
30th Jul 2006, 06:38 PM
REALLY??? I have always been told, and indeed found, that it's highly detrimental as they're trained incorrectly and if they happen to stop (more likely with a younger ride) then over their head you go, damaging their confidence....

Well you don't lean forwards going inot the jump only over the jumps, so how they can stop going over i don't no lol

barbie666
30th Jul 2006, 09:33 PM
your horse is gorgeous!!

maybe relax your reins a teensy bit and slide your hands up the neck to give him more freedom over the jump.
gripping a bitt too much with your knees, so maybe what would help is if you dont stand up in your stirrups as much over the jump, and do alot of no stirrups etc to improve balance and relaxing yor legs?

hes making a good shape over the jump. but maybe a little flat?
what i do is a straight bar thats either filled in with more poles all parallel, or a cross pole underneath, so he will be a bit more aware and put in hat little bit more effort.

but your horse is looking lovely for a five year old.

:)
xx jo

Harleyhorse
31st Jul 2006, 11:36 AM
Well you don't lean forwards going inot the jump only over the jumps, so how they can stop going over i don't no lol

when a horse jumps there body forms an ark.This ark in take off will bring your hips to the angle that you need to not be hitting/sitting up right on there back. now you don't want to be sitting up right fully on take off, but you also don't want to be fully on there neck(a head of the motion), you should be in a half seat(2 points of contact) this is done by bring you botton only a few cm's out of the saddle. Here is a good site to explane this better as I don't like my wording :rolleyes: http://www.artofriding.com/articles/jumpingposition.html and a few pic to show what I mean:

The approch
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y157/harleyhorse2/the%20odds%20and%20ends/jump1.gif

the take-off
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y157/harleyhorse2/the%20odds%20and%20ends/jump2.gif

The landing
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y157/harleyhorse2/the%20odds%20and%20ends/jump3.gif

I don't mean to cause trouble, but just want to get my oppion out there. And this site is one of my fav's, and has help clear my understanding. And is good as it lets us know what/should we be doing with our bodies to help our horses out the best we can.
HH

Herbie's mummy
31st Jul 2006, 11:38 AM
ye thats what i mean on the 1st pic your not in jumping position so if the horse does dip out you not likley to be un seated........i never word any thing right.

loser88
31st Jul 2006, 11:03 PM
Well you don't lean forwards going inot the jump only over the jumps, so how they can stop going over i don't no lol

Of course you lean forwards over the jump- it's jump position!! I'm saying you shouldn't lean forwards before the jump for the aforementioned reasons...

Herbie's mummy
1st Aug 2006, 01:55 PM
Of course you lean forwards over the jump- it's jump position!! I'm saying you shouldn't lean forwards before the jump for the aforementioned reasons...


Thats what i eman LOL you are not meant to be IN jumping position BEFORE the jump ONLY over the jump!

loser88
1st Aug 2006, 03:43 PM
Thats what i eman LOL you are not meant to be IN jumping position BEFORE the jump ONLY over the jump!


That's what I've been saying the whole time. You should not change your position (from what is correct) before, over or after the fence purely because you are riding a youngster. This includes leaning more forwards over the fence, it teaches the horse incorrectly and will get it into the bad habit of feeling it must 'catch' it's rider (I think someone else has said this too) and when someone who rides correctly gets on, refusals and other problems can arise becuase the horse has been trained incorrectly.