Another People Disappointment Thread

[Whatanejit]

My next door livery had 3 horses to care for on DIY.

Now, she wasn't the most caring horse owner. Very throughother (not sure if you use that term in England).

She is an advanced eventer and her horses are basically machines not animals.

Anyway, we built up a bit of a relationship over the past 5 months. One of her horses was Cooper's best friend, I rode one of her horses when he was lame and hack only and kept an eye on two of them in the field when she was busy with work or social life.

We frequently texted each other re horsey updates etc.

She then took lame horse away to her parents who have a big yard in South Hampshire, the second horse was sold and the third was on our yard until last Thursday when she took him away to event in the New Forest.

Well it turns out to be a big lie!

She had moved the other two horses to a different yard nearby, hadn't sold the other one at all, owed our YO £1500 as she had been skiving from her bills and he is a fellow eventer / owner he was sucked in.

She also owes the vet £400 pounds.

I had heard rumours of her having left and so texted her and she was very vague.

Aren't people strange?

I am an upfront person myself - some find that hard to take but I would rather be that than a wimp, two faced or a liar!

YO only found out because she got another vet involved with her horses as she knew the other vet would demand payment. The vets have a fierce loyalty around these parts so one vet phoned another who spoke to our YO and there goes the gossip!

OH and I were none the wiser until this afternoon.

As I said earlier - aren't people strange?

Oh yes, another bit of talk is that her debts are due to Cocaine usage.

Very sad:o

xx

Dee

[fataldream]

Blimey!!! cant really say much, just shocked. somtimes when you let your self in the tred on you. it happens, unfortunatly. all i can say is poor horses, because i hate it when horses are used as machines and not living creatures that they are. its about being in harmony with you beloved creature, not controll.:(


and drug usage????????????????????:eek: :eek: :eek:

[jenren!!]

Ok then...

[fataldream]

What do you mean "ok then..." jen?

[Whatanejit]

Ok then...

Pardon?

[jenren!!]

Hint of sarcasm, as in to say 'riiight, thats just dodgy'. :p

[fataldream]

Oh lol! thought you where being rude of somthing. its hard to know when its over the internet, as its only words....v sorry jen:o

[Mimi + Me]

Well I've said it before and I'll say it again, 'there's nowt so queer as folk'.

I have found that some people just go through life being economical with the truth, I had an ex-boyfriend who used to lie about everything, every single blooming thing!

Personally, I can't lie if my life depended on it, couldn't do it when I was a child (I used to go bright red) and can do it even less now! Plus it's so much hassle keeping up the pretence isn't it?

[Whatanejit]

'there's nowt so queer as folk'.

Sooo true Emma.

I used to be a big people lover and then got disappointed a lot so now I remain neutral and then let them swing me either way - leads to much less disappointment.

I am not disappointed at this girl as we never had a connection - she sat on Cooper once and I couldn't wait 'till she got off as she see-sawed his poor mouth:eek:
Not my sort of horsey person, not my sort of people person but we were neighbours and exchanged conversation.

I had no idea that things were quite this bad.

A lot of the others slagged her off and I didn't defend her as such but would say 'well she has never said a bad word about anyone on this yard' = that usually shuts people up but hey!

There you go.

xx

Dee

[NoviceNic]

One thing I have learnt about my job is that you have to accept people for who they are. You might not like what they are, you dont have to associate with those who you dont like. I too take people for face value and try not to get involved with all the slander and rumours that fly around. However it is a shame that she has run up such a huge debt with your YO. Maybe your YO wont be so kind next time. After all I am sure YO still has her bills to pay no matter who owes her what. :(

[jenren!!]

Oh lol! thought you where being rude of somthing. its hard to know when its over the internet, as its only words....v sorry jen:o
Tis ok, i think its a teenage thing :p

[vince42]

Sad tale , I suppose the only up side is you have been used only for something you'd probably been happy to do anyway, unlike vet and YO who have other responsibilities.

Having been self employed for 12 years I can deal with "disappointment" in people but I'm much happier with those who are straightforward and up front.


Personally, I can't lie if my life depended on it, couldn't do it when I was a child (I used to go bright red) and can do it even less now! Plus it's so much hassle keeping up the pretence isn't it?

Guess why I don't play poker? :D It's far too difficult remebering all the details.

Vince

[RustyMary]

Good grief, what a story. It's so horrible when people turn out like that - I'd much rather be around people who are WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get). Here in Slovenia the culture is to take quite a while to get to know people before being very friendly eg inviting them to your house - at first I thought that was very strange but now I think they may have it right - sometimes people are not what they seem, as in this case.

[Skib]

It was nice that you helped her Dee

She is an advanced eventer and her horses are basically machines not animals.

And do her parents really have a big yard in Hampshire? So many unknowns. And was she a kid who was pressured to ride and compete?
And was she herself treated by her parents as if she were a prize winning machine and not a person?
And was it a struggle to keep up the act?

A senior RI at the BHS told me about a young woman he taught who had been riding that way. And he was letting her do NH and ride to be comfy on the horse, and not have to worry about winning anything ever again if she didnt feel like it.

[Afellpony]

Apart from friends (and peeps on this board) who needs people anyway, when you've got horses and pets?

[Whatanejit]

One thing I have learnt about my job is that you have to accept people for who they are

I totally agree NN - you can't like everyone and indeed everyone can't like you.

'riiight, thats just dodgy'

Very dodgey jenren;)

I suppose the only up side is you have been used only for something you'd probably been happy to do anyway,

To true Vince and would do again as she is more to be pittied and her poor horses definately are.

sometimes people are not what they seem, as in this case.

'fraid so RM - happens a lot really and to be honest there were lots of clues there in hindsight.

So many unknowns
True Skib - I don't know would be the answer to your questions. I have my thoughts on some of your questions but obviously can't be sure.

Apart from friends (and peeps on this board) who needs people anyway, when you've got horses and pets?

I keep telling myself that A'pony but I can't help myself - I like people - well some anyway.:rolleyes:

xx

Dee

[Trewsers]

Crumbs! I would have been well shocked to find all that out about somebody I'd been friendly with for 5 months! I am a bit naive (sp?) at times, I tend to think that all "horse folk" are nice and that we have a common bond. Mind you, I did get sadly disillusioned on the last yard, where quite a few people turned out to not be what I thought. I take people at face value - and sometimes live to regret it!!! Tho I am learning to be more wary amongst horsey people..........How terrible if indeed this person's debt was due to drugs, (I've led a pretty sheltered life in some respects and still find it hard to believe that people are addicts). Oh dear.

[Trewsers]

Apart from friends (and peeps on this board) who needs people anyway, when you've got horses and pets?

Hehe, too true:D OH and I are quite a "one man band" at times, just us two and the horses !!!

[H & Bailey]

if you thinnk thats strange how about my'best friend' who used to rent fields next to me who 'found' a 1 1/2acre? field to rent along the road from me for £25 a month.she told me how she is renting of british rail -as its a disused railway line and that her dad is going to buy it for her.they got diggers in to clear rubbish and gorse put big gates up.i was genuinely pleased for her and thought nothing of it.then there were whispers in the village saying its castle estate land etc...i thought 'oh they are just jealous. she asked me to mind the ponies while she went on her hols.fair enough she looks after mine while im away...
i go up to check them over and there is a big padlock and snotty note on the gate from the castle estate saying she is squatting:eek: :eek: :eek:
i went to her dads and gave him the keys and letter and he said he would deal with it.
she came home next day and i asked her about it..her dad had angle grided the padlock off as the castle were mistaken!
she hasnt been chucked off as yet but i keep being asked if she has as villagers(who work for the castle) know that legal wheels are in progress-
i wouldnt DARE go squat on a field would you?
she is supposed to be my best friend so how do you know what to believe? and she is a grown woman -35

[Imp]

*hah* people, a? :rolleyes:

[Whatanejit]

Well, she turned up today to empty her box - little parlour at the back still had rugs and numnahs etc.

I didn't see her but she had a chat with OH - still very vague - wanted to be out asap.

She works for the same company as my RI who doesn't know anything about this yet.

Don't know if she paid her debt yet.


xx

Dee

[Denbenj]

My sussposed ' friend' brought her horse to my mares field, then never bothered tending to it knowing I wouldnt leave it! Never even went to check on him.. And thats just the start of it! The horse is now dumped at the opposite end of the country when I moved on and sold my mare..hes now in a field and a non horsey non horse liker is ' looking after ' him.

Hmmmm

[Little Dolphins]

Sad and strange Dee, my 'next-door neighbour' has been 'having problems' and is leaving, too!
We've all been very cross with her for various reasons, and some were so mad they confronted her, which, in turn,made the YO extremely angry. It's always best to let the business of the yard be sorted by the business owner, I reckon. That way, it's cut and dried.
Although I've felt hurt and fooled by the person, totally taken in- so much so that I haven't been able to even look at her in recent days- it now just feels so awfully sad. She obviously has a problem, and will go on having a challenging time wherever she goes. She's prob. very lonely.

YuuuuuK! I wish it could all be nice and lovely!

Hope your yard settles down soon and you get a proper 'ledge' (legend: Surrey teen-speak for brilliant personage) for a neighbour!:)

[Imp]

LD wrote: Hope your yard settles down soon and you get a proper 'ledge' (legend: Surrey teen-speak for brilliant personage) for a neighbour!

Checked with my kids and Yep, this is also the 'speak' in Kent... Gawd 'elp us all (I thought it was the rim of a shelf, or edge of a cliff!) :eek:

[CurlyWurlyRach]

how terribly sad :(
I should imagine thats one very mixed up woman.

Couple of lads i know from the racing yard are alcoholics and they struggle so much with trying to love the horses in their charge and look after them whilst dying for a drink :rolleyes: and it never ends happy.

[Afellpony]

I find it's best not to get involved with people much; especially those who aren't personal friends. Be pleasant, pass the time of day by all means but these days, I've found out to my cost that it's best keep yourself to yourself. Sad but that's the way it is now. Oh and Little Dolphins, I wish it could be all nice and lovely again too but times hve changed somewhat. People seem to have changed somewhat and have become like aliens that have landed from a spaceship!!!!!!!! Some peeps certainly have a strange attitude.

[coverblown]

but surely people are worth it? We can't spend our whole lives relating only to animals, or we become "queerer than folk" ourselves.

We all have a few wee scars on our hearts; lets hope she can get over her problems and that her horses are ok...

[little mel]

I always meet new people with warm friendliness and trust, mostly am dissapointed in the long run, but being a bit dim it takes a while to realise that Im being ripped off. Still, not one to give up and being blessed with the memory span of a gnat have met many more lovely people. The thing I cant understand is the whole drugs thing. Scares me to heck as the persons whole self changes. Never had drugs in my day.. woh no .. well ok! I think hippy's smoked something a bit dodgy, but it was not the norm. sighs! I have met a person like the one you described, the lies this guy would come out with were phenomenal. I really wanted to say ..'look shut the dickens up because I know you got no dosh cos u spent it all on whatever substance it is your addicted to, my concern is your horses, just let me know if youre turning up or not and that way the care aspect isnt sliding'- actually said the last bit but not the sarcastic bit at the front.

[Trewsers]

People seem to have changed somewhat and have become like aliens that have landed from a spaceship!!!!!!!! Some peeps certainly have a strange attitude.


You're telling me!:p I intend (in my twilight years) to draw upon the many characters (there have been a few;) ) that I have met via the horse world - I think they would be ideal for inclusion in my stories.......:D (writing is a part time hobby of mine). Nowt so queer as folk - change that to "horse folk":D

[icegirl]

Trewsers we should get together. I had this brilliant idea of a comedy about a livery yard for Channel Four!!
This whole horse thing is a world on its own and there are some strange folk in it. Some nice ones too and thank goodness for that.

[Little Dolphins]

Hey ditto, Icegirl! I'm planning a soap called `The Yard', got the beginnings of the theme tune, and a list of characters.
There'll be wobbly sets like early days of Crossroads and Neighbours,everyone will be perfectly groomed, (even the horses), and a cliffhanger at the end of every episode...

...WILL Phil the farrier tell Amelia about the seven other girls he's going out with?????
...IS Vera really going to sell her house so she can keep her horses, and move in with the back man even though she doesn't fancy him?????

..... oh no, WHAT have they found in the muck heap?!! And it isn't just poo...

cue music

[Whatanejit]

Love it LD - that would be very 'Eldorado - esque':p

That bang on the nut may have done you some good!

xx

Dee

[domane]

Oh NO!!!

Now I want to know what happens in the next episode of "The Yard"!!!!!!! :p

[Sol_Gemma]

:D u must have a know-it-all character who winds everyone up constantly

[*Sez*]

I tend to keep myself to myself at the yard as well. I'm friendly and chatty, but avoid getting involved with the other liveries. To be honest, I avoid getting involved with people in general. I just can't let my guard down.

I can understand the addiction although I don't have an addictive personality myself. I smoked as a teen for several years and just one day decided I'd had enough and stopped. End of. I never felt the need for another one. However, my husband is a smoker and a recovering alcoholic and I have lots of friends who are drugs users. It doesn't bother me - as long as they are civil (or falling asleep :rolleyes: ), they can get on and do what they please. It's not hurting me or costing me anything. I have given the odd lecture, but at the end of the day it's their lives and they have to live how they want. It tends to be an evening thing for most of them - I certainly can't imagine it would be safe to work around horses when you're not entirely "with it". Only one friend I know of is in debt through his drugs use and had to rent out his house and lodge in a friend's spare bedroom until he got sorted out. But he had no children, partner or animals to worry about. I tend to think that people who take on horses are making a commitment as big as having a child. You need to put your dependent first and foremost, and you cannot do this if you're high.

I hope your YO and vet get their money from her. It must be a difficult situation all round.

[Imp]

"The Yard" shame NEIGHbours has already been taken really :D

[Afellpony]

Oh. I'm friendly at the yard - I've known the owners for years, they came to our wedding 27 years ago. The other 4 people there are all adult (one is YO's daughter) and they're lovely. Not all people are awful, dont get me wrong, just the majority of them!
It just seems now that soooooo many of them have an 'attitude' and they think it their GGR (God Give Right) to walk all lover other peeps. If it came to the crunch that I had to live alone, I'd never look for another person (or husband (whatever), I'd be quite happy to live with my cats. They're far nice (and better looking) than 99.9% of all the people I meet in my daily life.

[Little Dolphins]

Domane- you don't want to know, it's not very nice what they find in the heap.....:eek: But you'll be relieved to hear that Tamara gets her come-uppance at LAST! ;)

Imp- BRILLIANT! Let's remodel NEIGHbours ; our NR Oz peeps can help with the authentic horsey/ people details:D

Sol_Gemma- YEAH! I hear you on that one, the knowitall type. Don't you just love 'em.... grrrrrrrrrrr.

W'jit- Thanks, I'm liking the bump on the head for the fact it's making me sit still and go back to creative things; OH and I have written a song! My words, his tune. It's called Marvel and it's about how weird it is that though the world is quite awful, we do manage to get along on the whole, pretty well.:cool:

Which brings me to the theme of your thread ( I'm trying not to hijack it, see:p )- people are disappointing and a pain. But it's easy to forget how amazing many of the folk we know actually are, as one rotten apple spoils the barrel, as they say.

So, back to The Yard:- well, there's suspicion about the new chestnut gelding, and Tassie is amazed and troubled because..(you'll have to guess). xxxx

[icegirl]

If its like Crossroads the doors will have to fall off when characters walk into them!
And everyone will find out they are blood relations with the people they are going out with.
A jumbo plane will crash into the stables and we wont know till tomorrow who survived!!!
And why is Paul behaving so strangely just now? It could just be that new woman ....................................

[Whatanejit]

:D :D

this is looking like it needs a thread of its own this one!!!!

I'm no good at creative writing myself but hows about one person writes a 5 min episode at a time and it runs like the one some of the younger ones started containing only a few lines!

Go on LD and Co. you know you want to............:p

xx

Dee

[Little Dolphins]

Oh- go on then, why not eh?:D

5 minutes is a long time in soapland, I warn ya!

Heh heh

[domane]

Yes!!! I want to know if Phil told Amelia and if Vera really had to sell her house....

Oh God - it's just like an episode on the telly.... you only have to sample a snippet and you're hooked :eek: ;)

[Trewsers]

This whole horse thing is a world on its own and there are some strange folk in it. Some nice ones too and thank goodness for that.

Hehe, indeed, thank goodness there are some nice folk too!!! There is never a dull moment on a yard........:D

[icegirl]

OK back to the episode of The Yard - this is getting really complicated running two threads. I was wondering if anyone could weave a psychotic goat into the storyline.
Or will the crashing jet hit the stables just as..........
Or is Vera possibly Phils long lost sister?