Price for a hairy cob (equine version!)

[miggy]

Posting here because Domane rashly said she would help find a pony for my son!
Am going to see what sounds like a cracking little cob tomorrow. Very very hairy, 14.1 weight carrying cob. Probably 9 ish, was bought for their 9yr old daughter 5 yrs ago from a dealer and turned out to be 4 when the vet looked at it later! Has done pony club,x country,musical rides, in hand coloured cob classes, beach rides and hunted last 2 seasons in a snaffle. Never going to be world beating but safe and dependable. Not bolshy and loves people, whinnies from field. Can be left weeks w/o work. Travels/loads/clips etc. Not had shoes for 4 yrs.
If this is trueish sounds perfect.
But am worried about price. Advertised as 3450 with tack and rugs. " rugs and apparently the saddle "fits but has seen better days and needs stitching" I think a little overpriced?
I know I havent even seen it yet but dont want to muck them about deliberating over price, want to have rough idea what people think in hand. Any ideas oh wise ones :)

[Imp]

Sounds pricey hun...

I'd get in touch, say 'look, we like the sound of your ned but we've got a budget of £..... whatever you think on paper minus 10% (bargaining) and see what their reaction is. If they bite your hand off its likely s/he is worth less so you can bargain from the vetting, assuming you're going to get one.

Horses prices at this stage aren't set in stone so good luck :D

[CurlyWurlyRach]

weight carrying sane cobs, especially coloureds are making silly prices atm.
Personally, i think that sounds like an ok price, depends on the quality and quantity of the tack but i would exepect a half decent saddle, decent bridle and four/five rugs.
I think buying a horse with tack is a great thing, when i got curly she came with nothing, not even a headcollar.

[NoviceNic]

I dont think it is too pricey especially if it is coloured. If you dont want to pay full price then negotiate without tack. However there opinion of their horse may be biased and he may not be as good as he sounds. He may not be as well schooled and may be quite strong and bolshy with new people so take some support with you who know what to look for. Good Luck..

[Pink's lady]

Sounds about right. You are paying for the temperament - and being weight carrying and coloured just ups the price further. That's what most sensible, solid and confidence giving horses are going for.

Personally I wouldn't want any of the tack and rugs (there is small chance the saddle with actually fit:rolleyes: ) so would offer £3000 without anything and see how it goes from there. Of course that depends on if you like the horse;)

[miggy]

good idea Pinks lady re negotiating w/o tack, doesnt seem so rude! I have a treeless saddle so could use that as a stopgap anyway. Besides buying new rugs is all part of the fun anyway!
Will update after visit tomorrow, if hes at all bolshy or strong he wont be for us anyway.

[Pink's lady]

Good luck with him - he sounds rather nice.

Don't be afraid to offer lower than the asking price unless he is as perfect as they say. I've been to see quiet a few and have never offered the asking price and it's always been accepted. But then the horses weren't as described. Still lovely but they missed out the the problems:rolleyes:

[domane]

Sorry Miggy, missed this (had a bit of a trial of a day yesterday!! :o )

I reckon they have priced him at £3450 with the intention of accepting 3k. And I too was going to suggest using the poor saddle as the "negotiating" factor. If you like him, perhaps start at £2,800 "as a decent saddle will cost me £650" - then you can negotiate UP to 3k - so it looks as if you are increasing your offer too???

You can't put a price on safety for your offspring and I know that if any of my not-so-little-anymore darlings had ever shown the slightest interest in riding, that safety and my peace of mind would have gone above all other factors (except for well-fitting tack, of course ;) )

Good luck and let us know how you get on...

[Tizer]

Someone I know has just sold a coloured weight carrier same age/size and got £3000 from the first person that looked.

I have just offered £250 below the asking price for a PC pony which was turned down :( Undecided whether to up the offer because there are a lot of pony's out there and now is not the best time to sell.

[colettybetty]

If he is as described and you click with him, go for it.They do get snapped up as there's so much demand for them.Sold my 6 yr old traditional 15.1 cob last year for £3500 within 2 days and phone never stopped ringing for months, even tho I posted a sold note on web site.( then, silly s*d, that I am, I bought him back....)

[Wobblydeb]

Good luck with him - he sounds rather nice.

Don't be afraid to offer lower than the asking price unless he is as perfect as they say. I've been to see quiet a few and have never offered the asking price and it's always been accepted. But then the horses weren't as described. Still lovely but they missed out the the problems:rolleyes:Oh am I learning that one, Pink's Lady! I've only seen 3 so far, but sellers left out 1) Being very green 2) A couple of injuries and a strong bit/martingale and 3) Dishing with one fore and a breathing rattle.

I am learning to ask more questions when I phone up!!!! :rolleyes:

If he is exactly as described, with no unmentioned faults, then he is easily worth £3,000 without tack. Possibly more depending on prices around your area. :) He sounds a great mother/son share! :D

[miggy]

Thanks all-will update after viewing.
WobblyDeb-you are right about the mother/son share thing, I think it might mean having to sell or loan my mare as really would be more practical to keep one horse exercised, which is why I am being a bit wibbly about the whole thing

[holiday]

I dont think he sounds expensive at all looking at what is about. Safety is priceless so if he is what they say make an offer do be prepared to barter a bit most people will come down from the price!!!!!!

[NoviceNic]

**coughs** who suggested negotiating without tack. Also that horses arent what the description states as owners are biased. Dont my suggestions count...:( ;)

[Wobblydeb]

**coughs** who suggested negotiating without tack. Also that horses arent what the description states as owners are biased. Dont my suggestions count...:( ;)LOL..... I can see your bottom lip from here! :p

[NoviceNic]

LOL..... I can see your bottom lip from here! :p


Meany. I am having a "feeling ignored day" here. Where is the sympathy. lol:p

[domane]

Well Miggy???? Where are you??? How did the viewing go.... tell us EVERYTHING...... :D

[Sparkie]

Meany. I am having a "feeling ignored day" here. Where is the sympathy. lol:p

Awww! I think I'm having one of them too... We'll sit here and feel ignored together lol. :p

As for the horse, I would pay that much if it was described correctly, there aren't many genuine horses up for sale at this time of year usually.

[miggy]

Novice Nic-I apologise profusely (or would if I could spell it!) :)
Well it was a very sweet natured beast, very scruffy place and tiny yard full of obstructions and she tacked him up loose in the yard and he was quite amenable to just standing there-reminded me a bit of a dog really. Trial facilities were not great, lumpy field with homemade very dangerous jumps (sticks with rows of nails sticking out to rest poles on :eek: ). Most filthy scruffy bridle I have ever seen and saddle was appalling. I asked if they had had it fitted and was told they had just bought in 2nd hand for £25 (honest anyway!). She rode him round a bit and over some jumps then I rode a bit, he was reasonably obliging but slightly nappy (just felt like he wanted to go back to the gate), cantered easily on one rein and just about on the other. Was a bit stumbly but that may have been the field. Not really schooled at all.
He was the hairiest horse I have ever seen, feathers full face hair and even a moustache thing growing on his nose :)
People were lovely but non horsey mum and horse belongs to 14yr old daughter and is kept at home, which is why tack standards were so low I suspect.
Nice sweet beastie but too big and solid for me, and he had a wall eye which I really dont like. I dont think I would pay £3500 for something so unschooled however safe.
On the plus side I did buy 2 very cute kune kune piglets today-so have bought some livestock today :) (and they are piebald and skewbald :) )

[Guest]

Ah well at leat you know what you don't want next time!!

As for the hairyest pony you have ever seen, I'm sorry it cannot be any worse than THIS.....

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/GRADY74/Bryonypen.jpg

This is Bryony the day after I bought her in March, she'd been out all winter without a rug on......

[miggy]

ah but no moustache :)

[NoviceNic]

[QUOTE=miggy]Novice Nic-I apologise profusely (or would if I could spell it!) :)

Thank you, but I wasnt wanting to make you feel as though you needed to apologise. Sorry just out spoken sometimes.;)

Shame about the horse though. I too would think my horse was perfect but realisitically he would need more schooling and even though good around me would floor others with his bolshyness. :rolleyes:

Piebald pigs. LMAO..:D Need pictures of the new piggies.

[Guest]

ah but no moustache :)

Well she is a lady.........honest.:cool:

[colettybetty]

You mean like this ?
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n96/santafecob/double20trouble.jpg
Malachy has a moustache and a forelock that reaches the end of his nose (now growing back after temporary 'mum' hacked it !) makes him unspookable because he can't see anything to spook at, and yep, he thinks he's a dog too !
ah, sorry the coblet wasn't what you wanted, its all good experience tho !

[Wobblydeb]

That's a shame. It's really disappointing when you get excited about a potential horse, and then they are just not what you hoped for, isn't it? :rolleyes: (as well as bloomin overpriced by the sound of it).

Oh well, it's all experience. You'll feel much happier knowing that you've found the right one when you've got others like this to compare them to! :)