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Pasogirlz
27th Sep 2006, 02:34 AM
These are the two heats prior to the actual race.
I don't have the video loaded yet....so here is a small taste.
A few ppl did not hear about the heats....so they did not make it. But the turn out was still great, and the heats were needed to get down to the top 8 horses.

Please note my friend Sandy on her blind horse Bronce (wearing the mask in the first heat) largoing away. He ended up coming in 2nd overall in the big race. You would have NEVER known he was blind from the way he largoed around the arena at warp speed...trusting Sandy to keep him from getting run over or bumped into.

My trainer Don got 3rd on his clients double Capuchino stallion, Marco. He is the beautiful bay w/three socks.

The winner was someone I did not know...she was TN. And her horse was FAST!!!!! Not as much extension as some of the others...but she could book it.

You will also notice a BEAUTIFUL pinto mare flying around the ring. She lives in Homestead and has kicked my butt in the Pleasure Mares class many times. I have stood next to her in the line up and encouraged her to do the largo race a few times....and I guess she decided to go for it this year. I think she came in 4th or 5th. I don't recall....but she sure could move out!

EVERYONE looked like they were having the MOST fun in that class. Sandy and Bronce especially!
I spoke w/the pinto owner after the race and she also stated it was the most fun she'd had at Nats! I think she will do it again. I invited her here to see the videos, so maybe she will join us.

http://www.onetruemedia.com/otm_site/view_shared?p=139f7ebbc3964c36e6c724&skin_id=0&utm_source=otm&utm_medium=text_url

Also, here is a link to a thread on my website to some AWESOME pix of the race posted by Cheri Prill. She sure has a knack w/the camera. * I hope it's not against the rules to post this. If so please feel free to edit my post. :o

http://www.americanpasofinos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9713&highlight=

Wally
27th Sep 2006, 08:22 AM
The whole paso world seems so sedate, and so collected. I suppose they were used as comfy transport around plantations so no need for speed and gun ho,.

I am just so used to seeing the Icelandic fast tölt which is really fast and furious. But in Iceland in winter you have a weather window and if you want to stay alive you have to get from A-B fast and safely. Where Pasos come from the weather is not an issue I suppose?

I LOVE that skewbald, BTW

DO they have Paso gait shows in the UK?

Pasogirlz
27th Sep 2006, 12:56 PM
How fast would you say a normal Icey is? Just curious.

They just had the Paso Fino European Championships, Aug 3 thru 6th.
www.pfve.de is the association over there. They were held at the Osbayernhalle in Rieden/Kreuth.

Wally
27th Sep 2006, 03:27 PM
This is a fairly fast tölt, the slow one is a bout the speed of your slow gait, but with more leg action, and animation all round.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAYOCin9sQM&mode=related&search=

Pasogirlz
27th Sep 2006, 03:54 PM
This is a fairly fast tölt, the slow one is a bout the speed of your slow gait, but with more leg action, and animation all round.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAYOCin9sQM&mode=related&search=

But our slow gait can almost stand still......
See the videos of Joyero III, Tormento, and Maraquita, and of course...Maraquero vs Resortin
http://www.americanpasofinos.com/paso-videos.php

Any idea how many miles per hour the icey goes? Our Pasos go about 18-20 mpg in a fast largo.
I think the video didn't do them justice b/c of the angle being straight on. You can see the extension.

Wally
27th Sep 2006, 05:38 PM
With flying pace some Icelandics can reach 30 miles per hour and some have been clocked faster, that's the racing gait. Some horses can tölt almost as fast.

I must find some Pasos in the UK and have a go.

When you show them do you have to show all the ordinary gaits too, or are you just judged on the special gaits.

With Icelandics you can choose to show 3 speeds of tölt in one class, or you can choose to show all the gaits, from walk through to flying pace. 5 gaits in one class, or you can choose just to race in pace or do the timed trials in pace. But you have to be back under control and trotting or tölting when you get to a set of flags. If you are no you are not considered to be in control! :D

Pasogirlz
27th Sep 2006, 08:26 PM
http://www.pasofinos.co.uk/

http://www.paso-finos.co.uk/splash.html

In the traditional Paso Shows here in the U.S., we have three basic styles of classes.
The Classic Fino - Slow moving forward, fast flying feet, lots of collection, many times very low foot action. They are only asked for Fino, and hault, and the sounding board.

Performance - Higher knee and hock action, very snappy. They are asked for a Walk, Corto (med speed), and Largo (extension), Hault, and sounding board. Still very collected.

Pleasure - More forward motion and less collection. The gait is not as tight and there is slightly more extention in the execution. The action is medium, not really low or high per say. They MUST flat walk, corto, largo, hault, and sounding board.

Then there are the specialty classes:
Country Pleasure - even less collection than normal pleasure, but basically the same class.

Western Pleasure - again less collection, western tack, they must walk, corto, largo, and canter.

We don't have any classes that ask for a trot...that is sorta a no-no in our world. trot = bounce.

Now if you take them to an open shows or open gaited shows, you can show them in areas where they have to walk, gait, and canter.

NOW, in the traditional latin countries, they only have one class divided by ages: Paso Fino. If the horse is not show quality for that class, it is considered a work horse. In Colombia, they also have classes for the Trocha and Trote gaits. There is no "fino", "performance" and "pleasure" designations. Either the horse is fino or it isn't. The Americans invented those to have areas for the other horses to show in.

Wally
28th Sep 2006, 08:51 AM
What sort of noise are the judges looking for from the soundign board?

Can they trot?

So let me get this straight

Fino is the hardly moving forward, fast foot action gait,

Corto is a bit faster and largo is faster still. When they are doing Corto and largo what is the judge looking for? I imagine with the fino one rhythm and cadence are important.

Pasogirlz
28th Sep 2006, 01:37 PM
What sort of noise are the judges looking for from the soundign board?

Can they trot?

So let me get this straight

Fino is the hardly moving forward, fast foot action gait,

Corto is a bit faster and largo is faster still. When they are doing Corto and largo what is the judge looking for? I imagine with the fino one rhythm and cadence are important.

You are correct on the speeds.

You are also correct, they are looking for one even 4 beat rythem. 1,2,3,4, taca taca taca taca taca
Trocha gait is 4 beats but the timing is not perfectly even it's more like
1,2-3,4 tras, tras, tras, tras.

So basically, the horse w/the fastest foot fall that can maintain the most even 4 beat w/o breaking, with minimal forward motion is winner of the Classic Fino class. They also do excersizes to test flexibility and consistency of the horse as well, but you get the idea. Head set, tracking, willingness, etc are also areas the judges look at.


They can trot, but you don't want to see that in the show ring. Trotting is a diagonal movement.
In Colombia, they have Trote horses that essesentially trot, but it's very fast up and down foot fall almost in place. It's diagonal therefore slightly bumpier than Paso, but, still not as bumpy as a traditional trotting horse.

Wally
28th Sep 2006, 03:05 PM
I know with Icelandics if you improve work in trot, often the tölt will improve, I take it that you never encourage the Pasos to trot at all, as it is only the lateral work you want to show.

Was is a Paso or another breed that Walt Disney did a film about back in the 60's? I have very, very vague recolections of a film where a young lad rescues a horse and teaches it to "dance" and from what I remember it looked very much like your slow Fino gait.

Pasogirlz
28th Sep 2006, 03:14 PM
Yes, that movie was about a Paso Fino in Puerto Rico! I have only heard about it. Have not had the pleasure to see it myself yet.

Some trainers will condition a horse using the trote and canter, but we don't normally show it in the shows....at least on purpose. :p

Wally
28th Sep 2006, 04:57 PM
we don't normally show it in the shows....at least on purpose.
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Yeah I know that one, I entered my horse in the tölt class as he was such a good tölter, and in the 4 and 5 gait classes just to swell the numbers in the class, he spent the entire weekend trotting , even in the tölt class and we were fairly highly placed in the gait classes as I had found trot! Don't you just love them?

Pasogirlz
28th Sep 2006, 06:44 PM
LOL. Wally, Happens to the best of us sometimes. ;)

shoniedaspony
26th Oct 2006, 03:08 PM
the only shows paso finos can enter in the uk are
the american pleasure horse show-open to all gaited breeds inc icelandics
and there are paso fino classes in the american saddlebred breed show and the morgan horse breed show due to my friend basically asking them.

tbh paso showing is a lot more serious than the icelandic showing. having been to both...well...i know which id pick but ive got the wrong breed!!!

if you want to ride a paso...
my pony is Brillante de 5 Star (one of the "stallions" on pasofinos.co.uk)
lspasofinos.co.uk is my friend, who is breeding paso finos, lorraine.she has some lovely horses.
or paso-finos.co.uk are yvonne and rachel, who have a large number of paso finos and do training etc.
pasofinos.co.uk have moved to spain, so unless you want to ride a pso in andalucia, you may not pick them! there are other people with pasos thru the uk who may be prepared to let you have a ride if you wanted to.

pm me if you want more details or an introduction