Cooper: The Host with the Most!

[Whatanejit]

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Well this was him on Friday late afternoon in the field looking kind of handsome.

We got the blood results back re the test for worms.

It appears that the poor boy is heavily infested with tapeworm.

Looks like Bert and his whole extended family are living in there.http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smiliebarf.gif

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According to the vet Cooper wins first prize for having the highest result that their practice has ever had!http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smilie1st.gif

So what with the Keds making us all itch,

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and the Tape worm making us all squirm

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he really is

The Host with the Most!

We have to give him one of these today............
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and then another one in 8 weeks to hopefully clean him out.

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[Guest]

Aw poor boy.

Well at least you know what it is now but do you have any idea where he got it from. If it's from your grazing do the other horses need to be treated etc??

[stevielee]

Aww bless him. Hopefully they will get cleared up, at least he won an award for it hehe!

[Skib]

I am very glad you have an explanation.
But would agree that it is not your problem in isolation. You are well versed in things medical. So dont need us to tell you that.
But will the nice vets be able to sort it out in relation to the whole Yard?

[RobaDob]

awww bless him :), hope you get rid of thoses creatures living inside of him ;)

[Imp]

*Blek* poor old Coops that's really yucky. No wonder the poor boy was quiet!

Does the vet think he was infested when you bought him?

I hope the invaders, both slithery and creapycrawly are gone in a flash... I wonder what Cooper will be like with the spring back in his step? :eek:

Bless, at least you've got to the root of it now, it's not serious and it is easily treated! :D

[Whatanejit]

The vet went through the worming programme with the head girl and was very happy with the it.

Cooper's could be recent but likely --according to them --- old infestation from probably 4 years of no worming in his previous life.

They can't be sure obviously.

I have told the YOs, Head girl and all my livery mates so it is now up to them to decide whether or not to do blood tests and/or give an extra dose to their horses.

I'll keep you all posted if there is to be a change in management.

What happens at your yards if this sort of thing occurs?

Mmmm. Yes Imp - I'm hoping he will have a spring as he really was very slow before but we don't want broncho springs!

[Dina]

Aww,poor boy,hope those nasty worms are cleared up soon
I love the pic of the seal,its so cute:D

[Mehitabel]

:shudder: at most place, i would think he would be isolated so his poo could be picked up and disposed of separately until the worms had all gone through. what you don't want is any of the others ingesting worm eggs from his poo that have gotten into the soil and onto the grass, so in an ideal situation from a worm managemtn point of view he'd be stabled overnight and turned out alone or with one companion in an arena so all the poo couldbe got and there was no risk of poo getting onto the grass.

copper stayed in for a week after his worm issues, going out alone in the school during the day when it wasn't being used, and poo picked up as soon as it was seen.

[Sparklie]

I have one thing to say to this Dee......ERGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now that's out of my system...poor Cooper!! He really is playing hosts to plenty of little nastys isn't he.

I'd keep him in whilst it gets out of his system as Methabel suggested otherwise the problem could just go around and around in circles. YO should all ask everyone who's horse has come into contact with him to worm too

[Whatanejit]

Thanks for the advice guys.

I'll put it to them today and/or see if they have any other management strategies.

Worst thing is the field has just been harrowed!

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[RustyMary]

Poor Cooper, no wonder he's been feeling low. Hope you get it all sorted out soon.

[Clare-22]

Eewww poor Cooper! No wonder he wasn't feeling energetic with all those nasties wanting a piece of him. Glad it sounds like you have got to root of it, and it is easily sorted :)

Just think of all that extra energy he will now have, he will be boinging round the school, still being a good boy of course :D

[Chinarider]

Poor sweetheart, he must be itching all over !!! wasnt he rubbing his tail ?

Wasnt he lucky to get you for his Mum :p

[Montana]

Poor Cooper - no wonder he's been felling low if this has been going on for 4 years. Hope he recovers soon:)

[Whatanejit]

What a pain!http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smiliessmack.gif

YO didn't have any wormers in.

Main tack shop in town had everything but Duo.

I phoned several others to save us the mileage and they either were not liscensed to sell wormers or were out of it.http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smiliephone.gif

Resorted to ordering online from these guys.............

http://www.wormers.co.uk/

I hope they do a speedy delivery.http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smiliewormanimal-smiley-075.gif

Imp you've really got me going on these smilieshttp://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smiliethanks.gif

[neen]

Poor old Cooper.

(and... I can't help it... a big ICK from me. Sorry, boy, it's not your fault I know)

[kirstie]

Aw the poor lad :(

Hope cooper gets better soon, poor fellar

[julia gulia]

That was one of the funniest posts I have seen for a while:D Loved the pics, smilies and the commentary! Poor Cooper:o I know you said that he lacked energy but were there any other symptoms ?

[Whatanejit]

None at all Julia.

His coat is gleaming, his eyes were bright but a little pale according to the vet.

My new RI told me a story about a mare she had that was the same.

A bit of a plod but looked really well - but tired very easily. Remember I mentioned the yawning?http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smiliessleep.gif

The interesting thing her mare and Cooper had in common is that they ate and ate but didn't put weight on even in the luscious grassy times.

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He didn't have colic, dull coat, loss of appetite etc.

He was just a bit 'flat'.

Old Bert is gonna get it big time when I get this internet delivery!


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[Little Dolphins]

Well, Bert is a very priveleged Tape-fella, living the life of riley at the expense of such a distinguished patron!!!

But his end is near....heh heh heh, (evil laughs....)

How can Cooper remain so gorgeous and noble-looking whilst coping with so ungrateful a guest?

Because he's a true gent ,nay (neigh?) an aristocrat;)


Seriously, Dee, you must've been horrified! But you kept on the trail,you did good, you found the enemy:D
GOOD MUMMY, WELL DONE!!
I hope the treatment works well and that the road to full health is straight. And that Coops DOESN'T turn into Mr. Activepants overnight :eek:

[julia gulia]

:D :D :D Bert is enjoying his last meal in "Coopers Diner" Do you think he knows he is on Death row?????:p

Were Coopers droppings normal? Sorry for all the questions...just scary to think that it was so hard to pick up on.

[Imp]

W'jit wrote: Imp you've really got me going on these smilies

Absolutely no problem old bean - only glad to bring a smile to your face in troubled times :p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/lynda788/SMILIES/egg_swinging_cane_lg_clr.gif ... and a one, two, three #sings tunelessly# #ohhh, lifes a piece of s*it, when you look at it, sooooooooooooooo - al-ways look on the bright siide of life - la la, la lalalalala# ;)

[Whatanejit]

Hee heehttp://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/laughing7.gifhttp://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/laughing7.gif

LD Mr Activepants could be right.http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/gallop.gif

Given how he dozed off again while being groomed - what a mudmonster I'll have to say he was todayhttp://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/SHOCKED.gif - I think all the work and bonding we did before hand will help enormously.

It'll be like having a new horse!

Cooper's Diner http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smilieeating.gif

Death Row is right JG!http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smilierip.gif

His poo was fine - I didn't see anything in it. We had a good look for a few days after his first dose when he came to the yard in March but after that his worming programme is administered by the YOs and we just get billed for it at the end of the month.

No probs re questions - fire away.

I think that this experience has prompted me to budget for an annual 'physical' on Cooperhttp://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smilienurse.gif

You just don't know what is going on with the poor animals as they can't tell youhttp://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smilieshelp.gif

[julia gulia]

Well that's what is scary about it Dee .I think I shall have an egg count done on Barney. The thought of Bert taking a vacation to the Georgia Mountains skeeves me out..yuch:eek: I have read that it is best to deliver the "sample" to the lab yourself as the vets may be out on calls all day long and that can affect the result. Does anyone know if that is true?

[Luxie]

There's a horse we all love, he's called Cooper
- 110% Super -
He may have some guests
(well OK then, they're pests!)
To his fans, he's just Our Hero Cooper!

[Whatanejit]

There's a horse we all love, he's called Cooper
- 110% Super -
He may have some guestshttp://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smiliescratchconf06.gif
(well OK then, they're pests!)
To his fans, he's just Our Hero Cooper!

A limerick for an Irish horse - awww - that is sweet.http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smilieyl2jump.gif

Couldn't help but start whistling there Imp
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[HairyCob]

Well done Detective Dee, knew you'd get to the bottom of it (pardon the pun!):rolleyes: ;)

Hope Coops will soon be feeling much better without his uninvited guests!

[curlycal]

Hope you get rid of the uninvited guests soon!

love all the smilies


cal x

[Sparkie]

Love the pics Dee, but EWWWWWWW!! Still, least you know what the problem is now, and you can sort it. Any last words Bert? :D :D

[VickiGG]

so Dee - how come the wormers you and the YO's have used while you have been there have not done the trick - what does your vet think?

Hope it helps...

I thought all wormers covered tapeworm :rolleyes:

[devonlass]

Hi there,glad to hear you have got the bottom of the problem.He really does seem to attract all things horrible doesn't he;)
I know not all wormers cover tape,but was he not wormed for tape when you first got him?? or did it not work??
Is a little worrying to think they can slip through the net if it was that it did not work.
Why Equalavan (sp) duo,is it better than the others?? Sorry for all the questions but did both my girls when they first came with equimax and use equest and equitape throughout the year and am now worried it might not be enough/best ones to use.
Hope he is feeling better soon,and doesn't turn out to be too high spirited when he recovers;) :)

[NoviceNic]

Poor Cooper... Those pesky Berts...:mad:

[Whatanejit]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/sign0137.gif is right!

Well, aparently these old worm fellas become resistant to the wormers over the years just like our bugs and antibiotics.

If a horse has been heavily infested and wasn't treated as a youngster then a dose may get rid of some of the worms but not all. He has been wormed 3 times since he arrived on the yard in March and once at the dealers before that.

Yes he did have Eqvalan Duo before.

So, what could happen is that with a heavy infestation some escape and stay in there. Or, given how sloppy our YO are they may have been administered poorly, horse could have spat them out etc. He could be reinfected by other horses/himself in the field!

Who knows.

Either way - Bert is on his last legs......http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smiliegravedigger.gif.

[domane]

Why did the vet recommend Eqvalan Duo? Would ANY of the dual wormers have done or is that one particularly good?? I know that Equest have just brought out Pramox, their first "dual"....

I Equi-taped Chez just before I moved her to the new yard and having got a "nil" worm-count back from Westgate last month I don't plan to have her counted again for another couple of months...

Poor Coops.... I bet the poor man feels he's being turned inside out at the mo with all these treatments.... bless... please give him a big kiss from me :)

[chickflick1066]

Poor Coops :) Is he originally from Ireland?

[Whatanejit]

Not sure Jane - they are the experts and I don't know enough about it to have questioned it at this stage.

Vet said not to go by worm counts in poo as that only tells you what is on the outside of the horse and not what is dwelling and surviving inside:eek:

Yip CF1066 - he is an Irish boy http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/smiliep145333.gif

[CurlyWurlyRach]

LOVE the leprachaun!!! looks like my mate Irish-Dave :D

Poor Coops, are you going to worm him yourself in future? sounds like it might be best.

I use Equitape (twice a year) and Equest (x4) and *touch wood* Curlys not playing groundhog!

[madferret]

This post really made me laugh! :p

I saw a program about tapeworms in humans a few months ago. I couldn't sleep afterwards (apparently they crawl out of your bottom whilst you're asleep:p :eek: )

Anyway my OH and I often joke that we've got worms when we are hungry! i.e. the worms are eating all our food inside and there's none left for us!

So do regular wormers not kill tapeworms then? If not, there are probably lots of horses walking around with this problem :confused:

[teabiscuit]

erghh pictures :(
glad you've nailed the problem, death to the tapeworm!!!!