What constitutes a "mature" rider?

[*~Joseph33nie~*]

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[CurlyWurlyRach]

as far as i can tell, matures splatter not bounce ;) (nicked that from someones siggy...)

[Skib]

You've asked a relevant question. This is an open board. No one CAN'T join.
But to rephrase the question:

Is the main board NR only for children these days?

Where on NR Board does normal adult discussion takes place? That is for riders in their twenties and thirties and those still fit enough to compete on equal terms alongside the young.

Is the main board or Cafe the place where grown ups who own horses can exchange news and experiences? Or should adults with their own horses use the Mature Section as the first choice for posting? With teenager owners posting there too?

I am in my sixties. When I joined new rider I got the impression that the Mature section catered for three different types of older rider.
People who were still riding in old age
or who had started late in life. Like myself.
Or for riders who had ridden as children and were resuming after a long gap e.g. in their forties, during which their bodies had aged and riding styles had changed.

Some of the above older people owned their own horses, others did not.
On the Mature rider's section we older people discussed adjusting riding methods, tack etc. so as to make it possible for us older people. There were experts, also in their forties and fifties who often helped us. And we were often joined by younger people who were helping their retired parents or older students to ride.

In those days I rarely looked at any part of the Board except for Mature Riders and Natural Horsemanship. I used to read every post on the Mature section because it was usually relevant to riding later in life. I no longer do.

Perhaps instead of asking who can join which is meaningless, or setting age limits, we should ask what the Mature section is intended for? And whether older people need a separate place on the NR Board?

I think we do; I certainly find it bizarre to be admonished that an essential part of my learning to ride is to learn to hack out on or accompanied by novice spooky horses? Oh yeh? At my age?

We older riders are altering the rules of the game. And we benefitted from having an enclave of our own. I dont know of any other board that provides one.

And I dont know what Mike had in mind when he chose the label.

To answer your question. No one ever is turned away. You are welcome. But on an internet board one cant force people to stay either. The Maturity of this section depends on the willingness of older riders to participate, to be bothered. Many of the original mature riders have left for pastures new, taking their wisdom with them.

So you have been answered by a Mature teenager instead?

[CurlyWurlyRach]

wow, thats quite a deep and meaningful answer there skib! :D

[Sooty]

Blimey Skib :D I was just going to say Joseph33nie is FAR too young (I'm just jealous :D )

But of COURSE you can join! Just be aware we are MUCH more splatty than you ;)

[*~Joseph33nie~*]

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[Whatanejit]

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and Welcome to NR and to the matures section.

I tend to always check in on the matures and mostly post there unless there is something specific like feed to talk about.

Then after I have read and replied to the matures I click on New Posts and then see what interests me after that.

The old weight problem is an issue with a lot on this board and is discussed openly - I yo yo quite a bit myself.

Bummer.

But hopefully my healthy eating plan and new found DIY livery regime http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/situps.gifin preparation for Christmas will result in this.........

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[Imp]

Hello, welcome *waves*

I'm a middle-aged ('ouch') returner after a 30 year gap! I'll be 44 at Christmas :( I returned to riding last year and bought my mare in January this year then promptly had a car crash which has meant I've only been told it's safe to mount up again this month :rolleyes: Still, I've learned a LOT about horse husbandry and behaviour, groundwork has been intense too :)

My daughter is 17 and posts here occasionally, usually in response to my posts or to update on our shared mare, Megan (sharemare - I like that :p ).

I tend to stay here on the Mature Rider board but do float around the Cafe and Natural Horsemanship boards too.

I'd like to see an over 40's board actually; before I get lynched, not to shut people out but to meet other riders of around the same age with the same issues to contend with and to gleen advice from. I think it would be nice for the teens to have their own area too, to be honest I can't understand text speech and get quite confused when I'm reading some of the youngsters posts as some of them are in text (I can't understand my eldest daughter's emails to me sometimes either)... shuffles off in carpet slippers to make a nice pot of tea :o I'm not sure whether forums for 'riding in your teens/twenties/thirties/forties/fifties and over would be useful because we're such a mix of ages and abilities we may feel kindrid to any of those boards at any time. See, I'm getting old, rambling again... sorry :o
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[*~Joseph33nie~*]

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[domane]

Grey hairs!!! :(

ETA: Yeah Sooty - what does Splatty mean???

[Wally]

A mature rider is one who swears by a hot bath and ralgex after a day hunting.

A mature rider is one who can stay on, come hell or high water if the surface they are about to fall on is hard.

They go for fun but safe horses, rather than mad and scatty.

They groan everything they pick something up off the floor!

When I was a kid I hunted with a bunch of mad geriatrics! mostly in their 70s and 80s. is that mature or rancid? who can tell. But if I can I will be thundering about the place at 70-80 or if the Almighty spares me 90s :D :D

[*~Joseph33nie~*]

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[neen]

Splatty -- prone to splatting when ejected from saddle?

Count me in :(

Though as I haven't fallen off for 17 years, how do I KNOW that? :confused:

(I was an adult when I last fell off though, so by my calculations, I definitely belong in the matures!)

[Faerie Rider]

I spent a week reading NR before I posted for the first time on 'Starting out' then I after reading a few I felt that maybe I should be posting on 'Mature Riders.'

I'm 37, brand new to riding and i have gained some really useful tips and alot of reassurance. Everybody is so wonderful and it's lovely to have contact with other people who don't think you are a total twit when you go all gushy over some endearing moment with a pony...the thrill of the first canter...just knowing that you are not the only one who is ..shall we say obsessed..:D ...I have a couple of lovely friends now whom I PM..and send long windy messages to.

I mean to be honest there is only so much you can talk to your family about..even my little boys eyes now glaze over when I go into the joys of how I mucked out that day:D

I use the 'Cafe area, Starting out and Mature Rider' mainly posting in the latter..I love to look at the piccies and love putting names to faces.

So welcome to NR just enjoy it for what it is a friendly place where you can usually find the answer to anything Horsey related and be prepared to be checking in quite often as it's very addictive;)

lol
FR

[Sooty]

as far as i can tell, matures splatter not bounce ;) (nicked that from someones siggy...)

That's what I meant :) ... yes, Neen, you're right :D

[madferret]

I ...I have a couple of lovely friends now whom I PM..and send long windy messages to.



you mean I'm not the only one :eek: :eek: :p I demand to know who the other one is :D

I know what you mean FR - I have found the mature section topics to be more relevant to me than the rest of the board, mainly because I'm never going to be posting photos of 'look how high I can jump!' and I like the fact that there are other adults on here who I can relate to and get honest advice from.
Owning a horse when I was a kid/teenager was very different to my experiences now, mainly because back then it was my WHOLE life, now I have to fit in a job, OH, housework etc around it :D

[Slave 2 Magic]

Im 40 next month and Im not mature at all really.:D I bought an unbroken arab mare last year, after having no horse for 20 years! Oh yes, you learn that no matter what, Thou shalt not hit the ground!:p
I also ride a 900cc motorbike. Adrenalin and the unknown keep me young. Its the dark mornings and mucking out that'll kill me!:D

[Iron Maiden]

Don't know if I'm a mature rider, I'm nearer 40 than 30 & I can remember first hand: all 3 of Red Rum's Grand National wins; Penwood Forge Mill; Princess Anne marrying Capt Mark P; Lucinda Green when she was still a Prior-Palmer; Boomerang; people saying show jumping horses were freaks & you couldn't breed them; Mill Reef; Harvey Smith's v-sign etc etc. I do still enjoy riding slightly whappy horses & prefer Cava to Mother's Ruin, but I hope you don't mind if I join in!

[Stella2]

Like Skib, I always thought of the Matures section being for older riders and that those that fitted had to at least groan when they bent to pick something up :D (as said by Wally!)

Joseph - like Sooty, I was also going to say you are too young - nowt but a bairn compared to us with the dodgy knees :rolleyes: But of course you are welcome :) I'm 47 and also of the larger rider variety :)

[Faerie Rider]

[QUOTE=madferret;1048202]you mean I'm not the only one :eek: :eek: :p I demand to know who the other one is :D /QUOTE]

Awww! MF! No one else knows my dark and sordid secrets!!!:D ;)

Lol
FR
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[*~Joseph33nie~*]

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[Sol_Gemma]

I'm 22... technically don't ride at the moment... because of lack of hosses issue and lack of confidence issue, BUT, I've ridden for loads of years previously... And I'm still around ponies 24/7...

Can I join?? :D

I've been wondering this for a while :D im 25 and returned to riding a few months ago i like it here :D

[ShariN]

Oh goodness.....

I thought being old....OK.... being an Elder or mature person meant, grey hair and sounding like a bowl of Kellogs Rice crispies cereal, snapping away when we move.... Or when getting on or off a horse or grooming...or....:D
Or can't bend back up staight after picking a hoof out.;)

This gimpy body doesn't have the option of falling off. Humm.....
Like that saying....we don't bounce we go splat....tinkle...tinkle.... as bits fall off.;)

Now I do have one Icey that can be a squirrel at times but she has been improving quite a bit for her.
A young Icey with a good mind and old soul. Oh and my Fjord who is nice and steady but the bad disk in my back doesn't like me riding her much.

Anyway... for my totally disjointed rambles..... Am enjoying the mature list and the adults who ride ponies area. Am proud to be middle aged.

[summerguest]

No...I'm sorry 22 is far to young!!!!

I'm sure you are very mature........you're just making me feel very old!

At 24 I had a horse,house, husband, and baby and felt incredibly old!!!

At 30 I thought I was decrepid.

At 40 I'm beginning to realise that I am younger now than I will ever be again, so appreciate it! I'm still not sure about the mature bit....why is it you still feel so young in your head.

Today, the young lad in the super market kept calling me dear, and told me I looked tired, and could he help me pack my bags etc....It suddenly dawned on me I was being talked to like an old lady!!!

Getting on my horse and going for a gallop makes me feel 17 again....Thank god for horses!

[ShariN]

Today, the young lad in the super market kept calling me dear, and told me I looked tired, and could he help me pack my bags etc....It suddenly dawned on me I was being talked to like an old lady!!!

Getting on my horse and going for a gallop makes me feel 17 again....Thank god for horses!

OMG,,, that reminds me. Was in a feed store one day. One of the young ladies says, "You have such beautiful hair!" and then goes on to say," I have never seen such long hair on someone your age". Talk about a back handed complement. Sigh~ ~ :rolleyes:

Guess all older people are supposed to have short hair?:p

So I know how you feel. :D

[LindaAd]

You've asked a relevant question. This is an open board. No one CAN'T join.
But to rephrase the question:

Is the main board NR only for children these days?

Where on NR Board does normal adult discussion takes place? That is for riders in their twenties and thirties and those still fit enough to compete on equal terms alongside the young.

Is the main board or Cafe the place where grown ups who own horses can exchange news and experiences? Or should adults with their own horses use the Mature Section as the first choice for posting? With teenager owners posting there too?

I am in my sixties. When I joined new rider I got the impression that the Mature section catered for three different types of older rider.
People who were still riding in old age
or who had started late in life. Like myself.
Or for riders who had ridden as children and were resuming after a long gap e.g. in their forties, during which their bodies had aged and riding styles had changed.

Some of the above older people owned their own horses, others did not.
On the Mature rider's section we older people discussed adjusting riding methods, tack etc. so as to make it possible for us older people. There were experts, also in their forties and fifties who often helped us. And we were often joined by younger people who were helping their retired parents or older students to ride.

In those days I rarely looked at any part of the Board except for Mature Riders and Natural Horsemanship. I used to read every post on the Mature section because it was usually relevant to riding later in life. I no longer do.

Perhaps instead of asking who can join which is meaningless, or setting age limits, we should ask what the Mature section is intended for? And whether older people need a separate place on the NR Board?

I think we do; I certainly find it bizarre to be admonished that an essential part of my learning to ride is to learn to hack out on or accompanied by novice spooky horses? Oh yeh? At my age?

We older riders are altering the rules of the game. And we benefitted from having an enclave of our own. I dont know of any other board that provides one.

And I dont know what Mike had in mind when he chose the label.

To answer your question. No one ever is turned away. You are welcome. But on an internet board one cant force people to stay either. The Maturity of this section depends on the willingness of older riders to participate, to be bothered. Many of the original mature riders have left for pastures new, taking their wisdom with them.

So you have been answered by a Mature teenager instead?

It reminds me of when I first joined out local riding club; they had a special jumping class they called "geriatrics" - I can't remember what the lower age limit, it was somewhere around 40, I think. Whatever it was, I was well above that age, and a novice with my first pony, so I thought Oh good, a class for me, better have a go at that ... and it was an encouragement. The next year, they lowered the age limit by around ten years, because they didn't think they had enough entries, and a couple of years later they dropped it altogether....

The point is, that there are plenty of people in their twenties and thirties who look back at how they were as kids or teenagers and feel old. But to people like me and Skib, in our sixties, they look like kids ... Although a lot of youngsters do talk very good sense.

But I don't think you can make rules about it, people will just post what they want, and the thing evolves. I'm not sure who Skib means about mature people who aren't around any more - there are a few around who I still think of as mature because they have so much experience, even if they aren't old in terms of years.

So there aren't any answers really. There's a certain style of thread that I think of as teenagerish, and when threads go that way I get bored and stop reading. Although I'm pretty sure not everyone who posts in them is a teenager. But I don't like stereotypes;
although I talked a lot about losing my nerve and getting confidence back, I think plenty of younger people are more nervous than me. And I don't get scared by text-talk either, I can read it easily, and I can use it - if I don't like it on here it's not because I'm an old fogey.

But yes, I think it's nice to have an area labelled "mature" for talking about the sort of things Skib said belonged here, and I think the general area doesn't really have an age limit, because I think horses are horses, and we can all relate to that, even if the people posting are at a very different point in life's journey.

[Little Dolphins]

If this section enables a person to feel more confident than they would in another about discussing an issue- be it sharing woes or joy, asking a question, or simply enjoying teenager-ish fun- then that must be a very good thing.

It's my impression that even if the thread has a light touch, there's an intelligent person behind the comment, and it all goes into the mix, like normal companionship in 'real life'.

After all, this isn't a book club or an open university course. And let's be honest, you can get some weary or childish folk in 'higher' places; they're not always the students either:rolleyes:

If you are 93 and-a-half and need to tell about your knees after a good day's huntin'- then do it, if it feels good!

If you are 20 and want to wander in and feel included at last- go for it!

If you're 50 , ahem, and don't know how the hell you landed there all of a sudden-you can learn such a lot from everyone.

Nothing stays the same, everything evolves. If we'd like more input relevant to the creaky body but active mind, then we should contribute.
Perhaps more people than are recognised on Matures have difficulties, but they don't always announce it. 'Teenagerish' banter helps to make things soooooo much easier. Innit?

:D :p :cool: :) :confused: :o :D

[valiant]

I'm turning 36 next year, and started riding when I was 34. I presume this puts me solidly into Mature riders category!

I found this thread interesting and thought provoking. The difference and joy of this forum is for me the real life aspect. Most of us here share the same stuff - balancing horses with work with familylife with our income with the rest of our lives, and are on the whole very aware of this juggling act. We also splatter and try to deal with our fears (and weight!). This is what makes this forum special for me::) :) :)

[teabiscuit]

i love the matures section because everyone is so supportive and (is this a real word??) UNpatronising.

at 40 i reckon i'm physically falling apart enough to join :D

i've never had a break from riding since 13, but i've been through the nerves (still have them,:D these days i listen to them, they're usually there for a good reason:D ), the ups and downs, and i relish the way the matures folk deal with it all.

it's also so refreshing to read discussions between people who are dedicated,

who know that they don't know it all (even though they know a lot more than they think they do, and certainly a lot more than others who are ultra confident that they are right),

and that more than one answer exists.

xxx

[CrisO]

I have not been around very long so can't comment on how this area has changed but I always read Mature as adult.

As *~Joseph33nie says buying and looking after a horse when you are an adult and have to pay for it yourself and fit it around work and other commitments is a very different proposition to when you are a kid.
If you return after a gap it's interesting how much of what was received wisdom has changed like having to remember these days broken wind is RAO.
Because of shared references to all the horses iron maiden mentioned and programmes like white horses.
Because after a certain age self preservation kicks in. I may not splat when I hit the ground but I don't bounce anymore either.

It is very difficult to draw a line. Someone of 28 may seem young to those in their fifties but they are a world away from a 16 year old too.

[Afellpony]

Hi, another old girl here. Actually I'm 55 started riding when I was a young kid and the only break from it I've had was for 6 months in the 1960s when I was chasing pop groups!!!! I've owned my own horse/ponies for about 30 years (not all at once tho). I now have Falcon, who will be my last equine. I Walk 3/4 miles a day so am quite fit and I dont smoke. Have arthritis in my kness tho because of all the walking I do and have asthma sometimes. I try and ride as often as I can but where we are is a bit restricting as Falcon doesn't go on the roads.

[LindaAd]

Perhaps more people than are recognised on Matures have difficulties, but they don't always announce it. 'Teenagerish' banter helps to make things soooooo much easier. Innit?
:D :p :cool: :) :confused:

I think a lot of people everywhere have difficulties they don't talk about. As for banter,
its a ? ov t8st dont u thnk


I'm turning 36 next year, and started riding when I was 34. I presume this puts me solidly into Mature riders category!

I found this thread interesting and thought provoking. The difference and joy of this forum is for me the real life aspect. Most of us here share the same stuff - balancing horses with work with familylife with our income with the rest of our lives, and are on the whole very aware of this juggling act. We also splatter and try to deal with our fears (and weight!). This is what makes this forum special for me::)


at 40 i reckon i'm physically falling apart enough to join :D

i've never had a break from riding since 13, but i've been through the nerves (still have them,:D these days i listen to them, they're usually there for a good reason:D ), the ups and downs, and i relish the way the matures folk deal with it all.

xxx

Hi, another old girl here. Actually I'm 55 started riding when I was a young kid and the only break from it I've had was for 6 months in the 1960s when I was chasing pop groups!!!! I've owned my own horse/ponies for about 30 years (not all at once tho). I now have Falcon, who will be my last equine. I Walk 3/4 miles a day so am quite fit and I dont smoke. Have arthritis in my kness tho because of all the walking I do and have asthma sometimes. I try and ride as often as I can but where we are is a bit restricting as Falcon doesn't go on the roads.

I think it goes back to Skib's list: most people on here have lived a fairly long time,
or have creaky knees or whatever, or have responsibilities and commitments beyond their horses, or started riding relatively late in life ... or maybe more than one of these.

Probably they don't rely on their parents to pay for their horses, and probably they are not very confident about vaulting on to their horses. Although being older doesn't necessarily mean wiser - I would happily ask advice from my daughter about horsey things, and she's 23.

[Wobblydeb]

I started posting here as a fresh-faced 20-odd year old :D I did it because I was an adult learner and found a good number of people in the Mature section who offered the kind of suppport to a nervous novice that I wasn't getting in the real world! :p There were plenty of other people in the same boat ;)

I've found that I migrate to other boards where there is a specific one for my question - such as Natural Horsemanship, or the General board when I need as many people as possible to see a question :) I still feel at home here though.... :)

Another thing... and please, I don't mean to offend anybody at all by this because I don't mean it in a funny way (it's just BOUND to come out that way), but it'll be nice speaking to people who have to pay their own way in the world, and pay for their horses themselves... that sort of thing. Because I am STRUGGLING to save for a horse (got new job this week to sort that out tho!! :D ) and I think when I finally get there, it's going to be such a triumphant feeling... but I get, well, jealous, I guess, when I see all these people with something I so desperately want.

Hope I make sense!!LOL..... I know exactly where you are coming from, but there are still mature riders who get someone else to pay for their horsey fix ;) Me, I've given up and accepted I aint good looking enough to marry money, and I'm going to have to earn it myself :p

[Skib]

That's a well kept secret, wobbly deb? That you're younger than my daughters? This must be the only place ever where women come across older than they really are?

[Peanut]

Getting on my horse and going for a gallop makes me feel 17 again....Thank god for horses!


Definitely agree. :D

[Wobblydeb]

That's a well kept secret, wobbly deb? That you're younger than my daughters? This must be the only place ever where women come across older than they really are? :D I'm not sure that's a compliment! :D

Don't fret, I've passed the 30 barrier now (possibly still younger than your daughters I suppose) and am forging full steam ahead for middle age :p Thankfully I only appear old on paper though - I've still got my 18yr old figure and not a single grey hair :D

[loopyh]

I actually fee quite young now - I'm 35 started riding about 4 years ago although did have the occasional lesson when I was younger but it never amounted to anything. Now I'm a full time single mum/student with a 13 year old and I am addicted to riding. Would love one day to own a horse of my own but at the moment its a long way off.

[Lusitanolou]

I'm 40 but only started riding again about 8 years ago. I have posted threads on the general board before but have only just started looking at this board. I like what I see as everyone seems very comfortable with everyone else and there doesn't seem to be the arguementativeness (that looks a bit odd spelling) that appears to be creaping in on other boards recently.

It's odd though how my head tells me one story about my age but my body tells me something different, especially now it's getting colder and damp. Boo Hoo. Oh to be young..... no I like the having the experience I have now.

Hello to everyone btw.

[Selle Francais]

You know, this is a really interesting thread - and it basically poses the question, what sort of rider do we want to attract to this board, and who can we help / be helped by best?

This is only my take on it, but roughly-speaking I see 3 general "types" - the genuine geriatrics like me, the "returners" who are coming back to it as 30 to 40-year-olds with families etc, and those who are starting from scratch as adults. If you think about it, it is incredibly brave, even in your twenties, to commit yourself as a complete novice to the riding game - your RI is likely to be your age or younger, you will be surrounded by teenagers and little girls who are incredibly accomplished compared to you - where do you turn to ask questions, to express your doubts and fears, where can you find somebody to tell you things without making you feel stupid? Answer - the Mature Riders Forum - we are just that - mature; most of us will have been through all that a few times, and I really think we can help people so much. I would have loved something like this when I was learning.

I just think we do have a lot to offer, and frankly, most of the "kids" wouldn't be seen dead on our board anyway!:p So I feel we should welcome anyone who genuinely wants to join us.:)

SF

[teabiscuit]

I'm 40

me too:rolleyes: , my auntie said it's all down hill from now girl, if you let it, and by heck she's been right so far!:eek: !!

have you found yourself getting just that little tiny bit slower or is it just me :o

[DavidH]

Not sure if I belong in this forum so lets examine the evidence.

Against.....
Still feel like and ride like a teenager. SJ, XC and love a good gallop.
Can still mount from ground or even vault on as long as horse is 17h or less.
Play cowboys and indians with daughter when we go hacking (much to dressage diva wifes disgust).
Seriously competitive.

For.....
After doing any of the above I know I will suffer for atleast 24 hours.
Back hurts constantly, knees feel it if I trot for more that 10 minutes
Can ride nutters but just can,t be a£$ed with them these days.
Always use a mounting block, or fence even though I don't really need to.
Worry about my horses welfare, how hard the ground is, how slippy the ground is.
Worry about work if I take a major tumble.
During that instant when i know a fall is inevitable, instead of thinking 'Sod, I will be eliminated' I think 'This is gonna hurt'
Can't be bothered with yard politics.
No longer believe ANY horse is wasted because it doesn't compete.
Just as happy to have a plod hack with wife instaed of a mad one with daughter.
Realise that Ed will probably (god willing) be my last horse.

[loopyh]

Sorry David but there does seem to be more in the for mature and against - did you notice?

I agree with the comment about starting again in 30/40's and the young girls at the riding school and the RI being younger it is daunting - mine was about 19 - I'm 35. I did feel daft asking questions because everyone else seemed to know the answers and I felt stupid. I'm still picking up stuff as I go along. As for being mature - I still want to believe your only as old as you feel - if I feel like getting on a horse for a good canter or gallop and I can physically do it - I will. I just don't think I fit any mold - I'm 35 and a full time student mixing with 18/19 year olds but then I have a 13 year old daughter and all those responsibilities at home - its no wonder I'm confused:confused:

[peeweesgal]

A mature rider is one who swears by a hot bath and ralgex after a day hunting.

A mature rider is one who can stay on, come hell or high water if the surface they are about to fall on is hard.

They go for fun but safe horses, rather than mad and scatty.

They groan everything they pick something up off the floor!



OK.
number 1~check
number 2~check
number 3~depends what mood I am in:p
number 4~if I have fallen off recently yes!:p

I also splat more than I bounce!:p How old am I? 14!:p:o

Sarah x

ETA: Sorry for posting in the matures section, I just felt I had to :p

[Phil]

Interesting reading the comments. Am picking up lessons tomorrow after two year break when I had about a dozen first ever lessons at 55 so definitely older and qualify for forum, doubts about maturity though. Enjoyed it last time and looking forward to tomorrow on one hand, on the other wondering if I'm being incredibly stupid. The instructor is very thorough and I got as far as a rising trot of sorts, worked on transitions etc - only broke into a canter once and that was by mistake. Had visions of disappearing over the paddock rail.
We'll see what happens, but I think I'm going to regret not having done a bit more gym work before going.

[Wobblydeb]

LOL Phil ..... see the earlier post regarding a hot bath and ralgex :D It'll make you feel human again. (You'll not be able to walk a couple of days later, but hey :p )

Enjoy your lesson anyway, and let us know how you get on :)

[Hallmarked]

me too:rolleyes: , my auntie said it's all down hill from now girl, if you let it, and by heck she's been right so far!:eek: !!

have you found yourself getting just that little tiny bit slower or is it just me :o

Come on you two - haven't you heard Life Begins at 40:D :D :D

With all my wrinkles - no-one can tell that smile is really a grimace:D :D :D

[mad mare1]

I'm closer to 30..and I definitely splat when I come off...spent 14 weeks in plaster last Christmas...due to dropping the wheelbarrow! But, on the other hand, I have a nutter of a horse...and another nutty chestnut arab mare arriving after xmas...and she'll be in foal..so can I come and play please!!! I have been riding for (whispers) 26 years!!!! So do I count or not???

[RustyMary]

Interesting reading the comments. Am picking up lessons tomorrow after two year break when I had about a dozen first ever lessons at 55 so definitely older and qualify for forum, doubts about maturity though. Enjoyed it last time and looking forward to tomorrow on one hand, on the other wondering if I'm being incredibly stupid. The instructor is very thorough and I got as far as a rising trot of sorts, worked on transitions etc - only broke into a canter once and that was by mistake. Had visions of disappearing over the paddock rail.
We'll see what happens, but I think I'm going to regret not having done a bit more gym work before going.

Hi Phil - I'm tremendously impressed that you joined NR in 2001, with a total of 6 posts and 5 years later you can still remember your password :eek:

Enjoy your lesson tomorrow!

[Stella2]

I'm closer to 30..and I definitely splat when I come off...spent 14 weeks in plaster last Christmas...due to dropping the wheelbarrow! But, on the other hand, I have a nutter of a horse...and another nutty chestnut arab mare arriving after xmas...and she'll be in foal..so can I come and play please!!! I have been riding for (whispers) 26 years!!!! So do I count or not???
Of course :) and given that you have been at this for 26 years, you'll have lots to contribute - you don't have to be new to riding in the Matures forum, you just have to be 'getting on a bit' :D

[Nimbus65]

Without reading any of the replies . . . me!

I'm 41. I started riding when I was an advanced 38. I have three (or four, depending on how one counts) children, 2 dogs, a grumpy husband and a family that's not remotely horsey and I am not (and never have been) remotely athletic. That makes me middle-aged, un-cool and out of touch . . . I think I qualify wholeheartedly for Mature Riders :)

[Lusitanolou]

me too:rolleyes: , my auntie said it's all down hill from now girl, if you let it, and by heck she's been right so far!:eek: !!

have you found yourself getting just that little tiny bit slower or is it just me :o

Well the answer has to be in how long it has taken me to respond!!:p

I do find sometimes that i'm more reactive than proactive. Think my brain gets addled then suddenely it's ahh yes legs on but a bit late!!

Thought my luck was in at the weekend with life beginning. MY Portugese trainer was exceedingly handsome!!. Then found out he's married with 2 children:( :( :( :D

[Phil]

Thanks WobblyDeb and RustyMary. Lesson just over, great to be back though leg muscles so out of practice unable to get a very strong walk and trot rather hopeless. Never mind bound to improve next week - I hope.
Have whole file full of passswords, no hope of remembering - that is a sign of 'maturity' !

[Rhein]

I'd say Selle Francais has described it pretty accurately earlier, and I would agree totally.

If you used to ride as a child and restarted again 20 years later say - riding style and teaching has certainly changed! So it's good to have somewhere to discuss the whys and wherefors of what we are perhaps being taught to do.

It is also for those who generally have a "mature" outlook on life I think - never mind the actual age.

I think there are two primary things that constitute a mature rider above all others though:

1) Health issues due to age - eg Not bouncing as well as you used to (i.e going splat as someone has so beautifully put it), and considering the consequences of a fall far more than you ever used to!!
2) People who have other committments and have to juggle full time jobs to pay for our horses, as well as husband, children, housework (whatever that is :confused: ) etc etc etc. It brings along a whole new set of issues:rolleyes: .

[Afellpony]

Hi Wally, love your idea of a mature rider but i t certainly doesn't describe me.
I do not go hunting.
I dont not use Ralgex in my bath but, I do:
Ride a young pony (steady most of the time but he has his moments)
Get up at 5.00am each day to go to work.
Walk 4 miles a day.
Worship my cats!
Eats lots 'n' lots of chocolate without putting on any weight whatsoever!
and I can still get into size 10 clothes!!!!!!

[LindaAd]

Hi Wally, love your idea of a mature rider but i t certainly doesn't describe me.
I do not go hunting.
I dont not use Ralgex in my bath but, I do:
Ride a young pony (steady most of the time but he has his moments)
Get up at 5.00am each day to go to work.
Walk 4 miles a day.
Worship my cats!
Eats lots 'n' lots of chocolate without putting on any weight whatsoever!
and I can still get into size 10 clothes!!!!!!


And, if it's not too nosey a question, which side of 40 are you?
Because if you're on the young side, you definitely don't belong in here!
If you're on the other side, you're an example to us all.
Although I have to warn you that my mother was one of these fidgetty people
who could eat and eat and never put on weight (she loved chocolate and cream),
but being that skinny as you get older is not pretty.

Linda

[teabiscuit]

And, if it's not too nosey a question, which side of 40 are you?
Because if you're on the young side, you definitely don't belong in here!
If you're on the other side, you're an example to us all.
Although I have to warn you that my mother was one of these fidgetty people
who could eat and eat and never put on weight (she loved chocolate and cream),
but being that skinny as you get older is not pretty.

Linda

i'm just 40, am i not allowed in here? who sez?

"but being that skinny as you get older is not pretty."

ermm what????are you tongue in cheek here? have i missed something?

Afellpony wish i could fit into size 10, but not enough to stop eating chips and chocs :D more power to you :D

[Peanut]

i'm just 40, am i not allowed in here? who sez?

"

Haven't I seen you sitting on a very beautiful horse looking about 24! Nobody who looks that good at 40 is allowed in. :eek: :p

I'm 44 and have the crow's feet and grey hairs to prove it, so I'm well in. :D

[CrisO]

I just qualify then being just past 40, like to think I don't look it but may be kidding myself. Ridden since I was about 8 but had a 15 year gap and came back to find lots had changed. Still love jumping and cross country but now accept that dressage\schooling may have a point and charging around bareback in a headcollar probably doesn't.
The horses I ride might wish I could still fit into a size 10 but share horse tries to help with this problem by offering to help with anything he sees going towards my mouth.

[teabiscuit]

Haven't I seen you sitting on a very beautiful horse looking about 24! Nobody who looks that good at 40 is allowed in. :eek: :p



hehe Peanut, I think you are mistaking me for my friend Lindsey, who's 28 :D :D
you made my day :D

[Peanut]

The horses I ride might wish I could still fit into a size 10


LOL :p :p :p

[mad mare1]

Thanks stella!!! mum can definitely come and play in here...she turned 50 at the beginning of the month...and she is going back to lessons after almost 30 years out of the saddle...cos she had me, and her horse sadly died. but she has helped me out on more than one occasion, and I'm hoping she can get a steady one to come out with me on.

[Rhein]

Both I and the horses I ride wish I could fit into a size 10!! Sadly I have not been able to since my wedding day - what has happened between then and now :eek: .

I think mature riders also have another issue - one of finding a good instructor for lessons.

Skib I think it was, has posted at length on this. Mature riders either starting out or returning to riding (or in my case starting lessons, having never had them before) do have different needs and expectations to younger teenagers. As Skib found, it is often very hard to find a good instructor who understands the older rider and whos teaching style is appropriate.

It took me ages to find my instructor, who was excellent. However, he is no longer providing lessons, which leaves me about to start the long search for another one :rolleyes:

ETA: If anyone knows of a good instructor they can reccommend in Cambridge/Suffolk/East Anglia area....................................:o ??

[neen]

if you're on the young side, you definitely don't belong in here!
Oh no, I'm 37, and I don't belong! :(

One definition of mature might be inclusive, and tolerant of difference in others. I would say if anyone feels in tune with the concerns of the riders in the mature section -- whether these are to do with health, finance, or juggling work and family -- then, whatever their age, they belong here. It has to be self selecting, surely -- otherwise you might as well ditch the heading "Mature" and just call it "Oldies"! ;) :D

[LindaAd]

Oh no, I'm 37, and I don't belong! :(

One definition of mature might be inclusive, and tolerant of difference in others. I would say if anyone feels in tune with the concerns of the riders in the mature section -- whether these are to do with health, finance, or juggling work and family -- then, whatever their age, they belong here. It has to be self selecting, surely -- otherwise you might as well ditch the heading "Mature" and just call it "Oldies"! ;) :D

No, no - I'm not saying that no-one under 40 belongs - just no-one who is also slim, fit and childless .... <grin>

[neen]

Phew, then, I'm in! :D

No children, though... The other week I was out with my horsey chums, and the conversation went like this:

Horsey Chum: "Did you and your OH just not want kids?"
Me: :eek: Um... we might still have them...?
Horsey Chums: :confused: :confused: :confused:

I'm getting the message we might have left it a bit late... :D

[LindaAd]

Phew, then, I'm in! :D

No children, though... The other week I was out with my horsey chums, and the conversation went like this:

Horsey Chum: "Did you and your OH just not want kids?"
Me: :eek: Um... we might still have them...?
Horsey Chums: :confused: :confused: :confused:

I'm getting the message we might have left it a bit late... :D

Glad you're in, Neen - and I'm not about to ask you which criteria you fit!

As for kids, I had my first when I was 37 - I didn't feel old enough before :D.
No problems, except that lots of people younger than me have grandchildren now ...
But then lots of people have their first baby in their 40s. So don't give up hope.

[Afellpony]

You know when you're mature when you reach over 50 years old and get all bitter, twisted and cynical - like me (hee hee)!!!! Dont have any kids either.

[FRED]

This thread has reminded me of a gentleman who was 73, he owned his own horse and would ride at least once a week,sometimes two.
I enjoyed a quiet hack with him around the lanes on a Sunday, but his family didn't know he could ride and had owned a horse for years!
He used to change into his riding clothes in a near by-lay by, the Police were alerted about a gentleman erm with no trousers on getting into a pair of jods, lets hope we are all still here in our 70s and enjoying tme with horse and our families, well try stopping us!.
He wanted to do the Lichfield Sheriff's ride and I'm sure he could have.

He was a character, anyway I think all are welcome in the Mature riders section.

After 30 years of working on heavy machinery I sure do ache sometimes,but never stop much to think about that:p

[cazrider]

This must be the only place ever where women come across older than they really are? or younger.. can't believe you're 55 afellpony, I thought you were about 16...:o

Being a "mature" for me means (at the not so grand old age of 49) :
-having the aforementioned dodgy knees,
-picking up riding after many years absence
-luckily finding my near perfect little fella (Seneca)(need one of your clappy smilies W'jit)
-NOT falling if at all possible-velcro and superglue allowed
-work sometimes (often these days:rolleyes: )having to take priority over being with Sennie (total pain)
-family (husband and 2 kids) being very tolerant:rolleyes:
-watching OH learn and start to enjoy riding
-enjoying pootering round the farm at a hangover hour of the day for most non matures
-not caring if I don't ever jump again
-enjoying mad NR challenges like doing a round the world bareback and trying to get "ear shots"
-enjoying the virtual company of pretty much like minded people who can share joy at the smallest horsey things

That's about it I think.:)

[Phil]

ETA: If anyone knows of a good instructor they can reccommend in Cambridge/Suffolk/East Anglia area....................................:o ??

Rhein - I can recommend Woodlands Stables at Holywell Row near Mildenhall, very helpful and encouraging to mature - even older - riders starting out from scratch - website is www.eque-train.co.uk. Instruction is to a high standard and they look after their horses well.

[Belle1]

Rhein - I can recommend Woodlands Stables at Holywell Row near Mildenhall, very helpful and encouraging to mature - even older - riders starting out from scratch - website is www.eque-train.co.uk. Instruction is to a high standard and they look after their horses well.

And I can second that recommendation :D

[carrimclaren]

A mature rider is one who swears by a hot bath and ralgex after a day hunting.

A mature rider is one who can stay on, come hell or high water if the surface they are about to fall on is hard.

They go for fun but safe horses, rather than mad and scatty.

They groan everything they pick something up off the floor!



I do that at 26 so god help me when i reach 60 :p

[LindaAd]

This thread has reminded me of a gentleman who was 73, he owned his own horse and would ride at least once a week,sometimes two.


That's a lovely story, Fred - I wonder why he kept his riding a secret. Maybe he thought they'd laugh at him ....

Haven't seen you around for ages - how are things?

[Sparkie]

I have dodgy knees at 16! I'm definatly not a mature rider, but I still post in here occasionally. I do click a lot when I move and forget why I've gone somewhere though, although I think the second one is more due to my silliness at times rather than age... :D We have a guy at our RS who's 66, and enjoys riding all sorts of horses at our yard, including the one that enjoys bucking, and competes in gymkhanas, jumping comps, xc comps etc. He always comes down to help out with the yard too. We also have quite a few adults who ride because their kids started, and then decided to have a try themselves, or were bullied into having a go by their kids, like my mum was!

[skewpie]

I think one of the attractions of this site is the fact that us oldies can post where we want and nobody knows how old or young we are.its such a brilliant way to share your dreams hopes and knowledge [assuming you have any !] with every one whatever their age .We are only old in years my brain thinks Im still in my 30s I wish it would find a way of letting this old body behave better,I also wish it knew how to post piccies!We all got our love of hosses in common theyre such a great leveler they dont know or care how old we are

[Wobblydeb]

No, no - I'm not saying that no-one under 40 belongs - just no-one who is also slim, fit and childless .... <grin>*skulks off back to General*

Nope, god-darnnit, I'm going to stay here :p Sorry if being a size 10 offends you LindaAd :o but I inherited skinny TB type genes - they make me nervous but all that terror seems to counteract chocolate cake *shrugs* Oh and I'd like children one day too - I've just made some historically poor choices about men :p

I come here because I can be a nervous adult novice and not attract the kind of disbelief and prejudice that can sadly happen in real life..... :)

[Afellpony]

Ah Cazrider you are my friend. I wish I was young again.....I would certainly do things differently...still have horses though. I think having horses/ponies/cats/dogs keeps you young because you go out and you meet all sorts of people. Also I meet loads of people of different ages and nationalities in the job I do.
Although, given the above........I feeling very ****** off right now!
Thanx once again, your remark cheered me up!

[Afellpony]

Hi Linda, read your post asking which side of 40 I am ..... well...... I'm actually 55 years old. Apart from the odd episode of asthma, I'm pretty fit as I walk about 4 miles a day. I have to get up at 5.00am each morning as I work a very long distance from where I live - not by choice I would add! But thank you so much for the compliment..........I do so wish I was young again but not quite that young.


NB: Also I would add about your quote "Being that skinny at an older age is not pretty". Actually size 10 is not skinny. I exercise a lot so have a lot of muscle and as I'm only 5'1" I'd look ridiculous if I was rotund! Apart from the fact that it would do my arthritic knees (from all the walking) no good at all. Perhaps it's somethng to do with the fact that I've never had children! My mother also looked young well into her 70s.

[Skib]

Wobbly deb dont go. I never imagined you quite as old as me. It was a question of tone.
But I always felt we went through this together. By the way, did you see Horse and Hound last week, how they sent out adult men guinea pigs to learn to ride.
And they were treated like royalty, got the top teacher, personal attention and treated so courteously?
Very different from us standard female beginners eh?

[Wobblydeb]

Wobbly deb dont go. I never imagined you quite as old as me. It was a question of tone.
But I always felt we went through this together. By the way, did you see Horse and Hound last week, how they sent out adult men guinea pigs to learn to ride.
And they were treated like royalty, got the top teacher, personal attention and treated so courteously?
Very different from us standard female beginners eh?Oh you cannot get rid of me that easily :p I'm still around and still on that long, long learning curve to becoming a halfway decent rider :)

Yes, I did read the H&H article. I have to admit I didn't think they were treated well because they were male. I thought they got better attention because a) they all went to good schools and b) they told the owner that they were writing an article for H&H.... :p

I actually haven't encountered any preference for men where I am at the moment. If anything they have a more limited choice of horses simply because not all of the horses are large enough to carry heavier weights. [The YO does try to accommodate all her customers and is always on the lookout for suitable horses. And I'm keeping my fingers crossed because she has said she would only consider selling me my favourite 15.3h IDx if she can find something bigger to replace him with :) ]

[mad mare1]

I think I can sulk off into a corner as well...I have been riding for 26 years...only got married last year...forgot to post piccies....only time you'll see me in a dress! can't have kids, and have only put on about 1 stone since I was 12! I also have dodgy joints, and for me, Ibuleve gel and my Co-Codamol painkillers are essentials in my tack box...as is my wrist splint! So please..don't kick me off back to general...get bored in there!

[Malinda]

I suppose I must sulk off to a corner as well? I’ve just currently turned 28, will be married for 5 years in January, have a 21-month-old daughter and am in a size 6 and have no joint problems. Now mind you I had weight loss surgery a year and a few months ago and definitely was not in a size 6 then. I'm also a stay-at-home-mom and don’t have to work outside the house. When I do get my horse some day I’ll have all the time I want to ride pretty much, besides the house hold duties and caring for my little girl and any future babies we have.

The topics and just the flow of conversation in the “Matures” section I find stimulating and meets my needs as an adult looking for advice and just general chitchat about horses.

I find this thread is heading down a disappointing direction. And will turn a lot of people away that could use your help and advise. I’ve only posted a couple of times mind you. When I first came here I felt very much welcomed. But now, I just don’t know. Am I welcome?

I didn’t know I guess that most of you feel that to be “mature” you have to be at least falling apart, overweight or closer to your 40’s.

I interpreted “mature” as being in the mind and emotionally. That is why I came here. A 16 year old can be more mature than a 40 year old sometimes and give good input and advise to a new rider or someone with questions. Also a younger person can have physical problems that effect riding as well.

I think “Mature” is a good name for this forum. Because it can include everyone. Those who have physical circumstances that effect riding and those who are Mature mentally and desire a place to come and have adult conversation about horses and horse life. Unless those of you who do have physical hindrances wish to have your own places to chat about that stuff, why not include everyone?

I like reading everything on this forum. I know some day down the road I will be there physically (although God help me I wont regain the weight side back). My knees are already crackly from being overweight for so long. But I still see no reason to not include anyone who seems mature.

My two cents.

[Belle1]

I find this thread is heading down a disappointing direction. And will turn a lot of people away that could use your help and advise. I’ve only posted a couple of times mind you. When I first came here I felt very much welcomed. But now, I just don’t know. Am I welcome?

I didn’t know I guess that most of you feel that to be “mature” you have to be at least falling apart, overweight or closer to your 40’s.

I interpreted “mature” as being in the mind and emotionally. That is why I came here. A 16 year old can be more mature than a 40 year old sometimes and give good input and advise to a new rider or someone with questions. Also a younger person can have physical problems that effect riding as well.


I agree 100% and will be joining you all in the corner.
I am a scrawny runt in my mid 30's and have no desire to have children (this is a horse forum, should someones personal decision on children dictate which forum they are welcome in?).
Despite having been riding for over 20 years I have suiffered numerous confidence problems and struggle to keep up with the teenagers who I ride with. I also find that I don't bounce like I used to, and find that physical problems, health problems and the fine juggling act that is my life at the moment do hinder what I can do with my pony. Should I have to justify my presence here though?

[Faerie Rider]

I find this thread is heading down a disappointing direction. And will turn a lot of people away that could use your help and advise.


I really hope this thread hasn't put anybody off..the whole point of New Rider I think is to connect people who have a common love/interest and for most of us obsession with horses and ponies:D

If you can't find the answers you want or need in the 'matures' there are always other sections to browse through..no one should be afraid to post.
I am an arthritic 37yr old 5'1" weighing 7 1/2 stone and I post wherever I think someone might be able to help me or wherever it seems most relevant.

I haven't been a member long but I believe that everyone is welcome!:D
Someone will always be able to point you in the right direction or have that bit of helpful advice or even that little bit of reassurance that is sometimes needed.

love to all
FR

[sidesaddlelady1]

I'm 22... technically don't ride at the moment... because of lack of hosses issue and lack of confidence issue, BUT, I've ridden for loads of years previously... And I'm still around ponies 24/7...

Can I join?? :D

Well, considering that there are 18 yr olds who behave like 50 yr olds and 50 yr olds who behave like 18 yr olds this is a difficult one!

I think on here it's owld biddies like me who've been at it since Methuselah was a lad and ladies who have taken years off to raise children and come back to riding, ladies who didn't learn as children and have started as adults and men, ditto. And then there are all the 20 yr olds.

In fact anyone who thinks he or she fits into the demographic.

[sophie33]

I agree FR. I am also reasonably skinny. I'm mid-30s and have chosen to be childless. And I have always been made to feel very welcome in the 'matures'. As a nervous novice with at least twenty years on most people starting out riding I need similar people to chat to - I find them here. And your size, children (or lack of them), and knee joints (or lack of them!) don't make the slightest difference to your excellent advice!

[Faerie Rider]

Here Here! Sophie33!!
Sorry forgot to mention DH, two children, two cats and one puppy!!:D
lol
FR

[Selle Francais]

Yes, I agree that I don't like the way this thread is heading - it didn't start out that way, but it's getting a bit up itself now.:eek:

Let's just go back to the beginning and remind ourselves that this site is basically for everybody who wants to join it, and this page is for anybody who wants to post on it - it doesn't matter how old / young / heavy / light/ size 6 or size 16 / childfree or juggling a family and a career you are - what counts is that you want to be here, and we all love our gees (to bits!), and we all help each other with the difficulties and problems that to a greater or lesser extent we share and can sympathise with.

C'mon guys - loosen up. If YOU want to post here - A warm welcome to you, from all of us, whatever!

SF

[Afellpony]

Apart from a few 'closet spiteful remarks' I dont see what's wrong with this thread. It's a discussion and given the amount of people taking part and could potentially take part, I think it's quite civilised compared to some discussions I've had with different groups of people 'on a website or in real life'! There's a couple of personal remarks been made that I think is quite out of order but then again - hey - that's life!!!!

[Whatanejit]

Each to there own boys and girls.

I accept anyone posting on this forum from 10 - 100years old.

If we can help by reading/listening/responding then great.


I think that given that we are mature that we should.................

.... accept other people have opinions
.... think twice about posting things that may offend people or exclude people
.... if you read anything that you felt may have done the above - pm the person concerned or ask for it to be addressed openly without huffing and puffing.

Or we can be at risk of such a light hearted thread needing one of these.....

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Please join the matures if you...............

. are between 10 - 100
. are between a size 6 - 36
. have 0 - 20 kids
. have 0 - 50 horses
. have a pulse
. are breathing in and out
. are in need of letting off steam and/or some advice.

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http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f270/Whatanejit/Smilies/welcome.gif everyone.

[Selle Francais]

Apart from a few 'closet spiteful remarks' I dont see what's wrong with this thread. It's a discussion and given the amount of people taking part and could potentially take part, I think it's quite civilised compared to some discussions I've had with different groups of people 'on a website or in real life'!

Sorry, but I do think it's going off the track. I don't think it is particularly civilised, and in fact it seems to have descended to the state where people are justifying their own position vis-a-vis the thread. Forgive me, but I don't think that's what it's about - as Dee says, this is for anybody, and nobody needs to justify themselves to us - all that matters is that they have a question, an experience or a personal triumph that they want to share with us.
PS Dee - you have something against sub-10's? :D

SF

[Whatanejit]

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[NoviceNic]

Oo oo. I have smily for the way this thread is going...;)

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;)


I am definately not a mature....35 yo bored mother and wife...:rolleyes:

**desperately tries to make everyone smile again**:D

[Stella2]

Maybe I've just not been paying proper attention, but I haven't read any unpleasent comments. A few tongue in cheek jokes, thats all :confused:

[chikakane]

Can NR start a forum for immature riders? I'm 37 going on 11.

[*~Joseph33nie~*]

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[Stella2]

Anyway .......!

Realistically, surely a mature rider must be over a certain age (ducks and runs for cover) and have issues most relevant to those over that age? Otherwise the posts might as well go in the General forum :confused:

[*~Joseph33nie~*]

...

[Stella2]

Sense of humour and being able to laugh at oneself and not take oneself too seriously should be added to the list of required qualities methinks!! Totally agree :)

[summerguest]

I'm not bothered how old you are, what size you are, how many kids you got...I'll speak to anyone who sounds interesting!

I am impressed at the amount of women who are so keen to tell everyone their age and dress size!!

Anyone out there who's fit, looks younger than their age, and doesn't have a weight problem and creaky joints... lucky you!!! I'm afraid I don't fit in that catagory but I'm working on it!

Age 40
size 12-14
1 husband
2 dogs
3 children
4 horses
dodgy back
tennis elbow
arthritic shoulders
varicose veins
nice smile! (my own teeth too!)

[Selle Francais]

there are many people who would like to swap places with us!! especially those in the cemetery :eek:

Spot on, Chuck!

[Lusitanolou]

Ahhh what a thought. Better beware halloween is nearly here!!!:eek: :eek:

Agree sense of humour is a must. Lost mine for the last few days but found it again now. They say forgetfulness is part of getting old!!:eek: :D :p

[rowdent]

Age 40
size 12-14
1 husband
2 dogs
3 children
4 horses
dodgy back
tennis elbow
arthritic shoulders
varicose veins
nice smile! (my own teeth too!) LMAO..

OneI'm older than you and still have my own teeth..LOL.. My list is somewhat eccentric..


One child
One Husband
One dog
One cat
One part time job
One dodgy back
One dodgy neck - due to repeated bashing into ground as teenager
two rats
three websites
thirty odd mice (hence my screen name)

And one lovely share horse called Misty

Sounds like you could make that into the 12 days of Christmas ! LOL

[summerguest]

I know we are way off track now for this website.....but 30 mice????

Was that intended....or did you just get a randy pair by mistake?!!

[Afellpony]

I'll speak to anybody whatever age so long as they're animal lovers!

[LindaAd]

*skulks off back to General*

Nope, god-darnnit, I'm going to stay here :p Sorry if being a size 10 offends you LindaAd :o but I inherited skinny TB type genes - they make me nervous but all that terror seems to counteract chocolate cake *shrugs* Oh and I'd like children one day too - I've just made some historically poor choices about men :p

I come here because I can be a nervous adult novice and not attract the kind of disbelief and prejudice that can sadly happen in real life..... :)



Oh come on Wobblydeb - that wasn't meant to be taken seriously, you know.
Just responding to what I took (perhaps wrongly) to be a tone of Nyah, nyah, nyah, I'm thin and you're fat.



I think I can sulk off into a corner as well...I have been riding for 26 years...only got married last year...forgot to post piccies....only time you'll see me in a dress! can't have kids, and have only put on about 1 stone since I was 12! I also have dodgy joints, and for me, Ibuleve gel and my Co-Codamol painkillers are essentials in my tack box...as is my wrist splint! So please..don't kick me off back to general...get bored in there!


No-one's being kicked off, mad mare ... honest! Specially not you!


I suppose I must sulk off to a corner as well? I’ve just currently turned 28, will be married for 5 years in January, have a 21-month-old daughter and am in a size 6 and have no joint problems. Now mind you I had weight loss surgery a year and a few months ago and definitely was not in a size 6 then. I'm also a stay-at-home-mom and don’t have to work outside the house. When I do get my horse some day I’ll have all the time I want to ride pretty much, besides the house hold duties and caring for my little girl and any future babies we have.

The topics and just the flow of conversation in the “Matures” section I find stimulating and meets my needs as an adult looking for advice and just general chitchat about horses.

I find this thread is heading down a disappointing direction. And will turn a lot of people away that could use your help and advise. I’ve only posted a couple of times mind you. When I first came here I felt very much welcomed. But now, I just don’t know. Am I welcome?

I didn’t know I guess that most of you feel that to be “mature” you have to be at least falling apart, overweight or closer to your 40’s.

I interpreted “mature” as being in the mind and emotionally. That is why I came here. A 16 year old can be more mature than a 40 year old sometimes and give good input and advise to a new rider or someone with questions. Also a younger person can have physical problems that effect riding as well.

I think “Mature” is a good name for this forum. Because it can include everyone. Those who have physical circumstances that effect riding and those who are Mature mentally and desire a place to come and have adult conversation about horses and horse life. Unless those of you who do have physical hindrances wish to have your own places to chat about that stuff, why not include everyone?

I like reading everything on this forum. I know some day down the road I will be there physically (although God help me I wont regain the weight side back). My knees are already crackly from being overweight for so long. But I still see no reason to not include anyone who seems mature.

My two cents.


And the same goes for you, Malinda. But the trouble with threads is that they will go they way they want to - just like real-life conversation .... I seem to be the ogre in here, but if it provides a spark for lots of people to say what they've obviously been wanting to say, well, that's fine.



Yes, I agree that I don't like the way this thread is heading - it didn't start out that way, but it's getting a bit up itself now.:eek:

Let's just go back to the beginning and remind ourselves that this site is basically for everybody who wants to join it, and this page is for anybody who wants to post on it - it doesn't matter how old / young / heavy / light/ size 6 or size 16 / childfree or juggling a family and a career you are - what counts is that you want to be here, and we all love our gees (to bits!), and we all help each other with the difficulties and problems that to a greater or lesser extent we share and can sympathise with.

C'mon guys - loosen up. If YOU want to post here - A warm welcome to you, from all of us, whatever!

SF


You're absolutely right Selle Francais - no-one was seriously thinking of excluding anyone ... That wouldn't be the NR way. It's interesting how many people feel that this is where they belong .... I'm surprised that there's anyone left to post in General.

[Malinda]

Well, I typed out a nice post about what the real definition of “mature” means and how I felt why people come to this forum rather than General or both. But, I changed my mind. Reading Mikes ideals and aims made me think that his intentions were that NR was ideally supposed to be for adults.

“The site was originally started with the aim of helping and encouraging the adult novice rider to find out about the sport without fear of embarrassment or feeling stupid in asking those questions that everyone else seems to assume you know about.” –from Mikes Announcement

That being the case, perhaps “mature” is intended to be for the way older group of adults. “A general discussion forum for those who start or return to riding later in life.” –Wording under the Mature forum. But when is later in life? Hence, the topic of this thread. Who says and who decides? Past childbearing years?

Now since there is no restrictions set on where someone posts and who joins, you get people of all ages, young and old. Also, being that this site was intended for adults, there is no section for the “teenage” crowed to congregate. Perhaps some day there might be, and then adults might stick to the General forum and leave the Mature section for the older adults or those that have physical hindrances that affect riding. I think that the initial first look at NR was misleading for me. I thought NR was for all ages and that being an adult, the “Mature” section was for me.

What to do now? Everyone does not always follow intentions and aims. That being the case where we feel we fit in may be different than what was intended.

I thank you all for being friendly and welcoming to everyone that comes here. Not very often on forums can you have a semi-heated conversation in a decent non-threatening way.

[rowdent]

Was that intended....or did you just get a randy pair by mistake?!! Ummm can I say we had something of an ISSUE with a single female mouse who would NOT stay in her cage, no matter WHAT.. and kept moving in with the males! I had to move the males to the shed to stop it.. and we are now in a static mouse population..phew! LOL.. sorry but you did ask! :D

[LindaAd]

“The site was originally started with the aim of helping and encouraging the adult novice rider to find out about the sport without fear of embarrassment or feeling stupid in asking those questions that everyone else seems to assume you know about.” –from Mikes Announcement

That being the case, perhaps “mature” is intended to be for the way older group of adults. “A general discussion forum for those who start or return to riding later in life.” –Wording under the Mature forum. But when is later in life? Hence, the topic of this thread. Who says and who decides? Past childbearing years?


<snip> Also, being that this site was intended for adults, there is no section for the “teenage” crowed to congregate. Perhaps some day there might be, and then adults might stick to the General forum and leave the Mature section for the older adults or those that have physical hindrances that affect riding. I think that the initial first look at NR was misleading for me. I thought NR was for all ages and that being an adult, the “Mature” section was for me.




I think "later in life" in that context means adult ... so you fit in fine, Malinda. I also don't think anyone's expected to stick to just one forum - I think most people read them all and post on them all. I certainly do, sometimes even on "adults who ride ponies" which definitely isn't me.




Ummm can I say we had something of an ISSUE with a single female mouse who would NOT stay in her cage, no matter WHAT.. and kept moving in with the males! I had to move the males to the shed to stop it.. and we are now in a static mouse population..phew! LOL.. sorry but you did ask! :D


Can't blame her, can you rowdent? A mouse has gotta do what a mouse has gotta do:D

[Selle Francais]

I think “Mature” is a good name for this forum. Because it can include everyone. Those who have physical circumstances that effect riding and those who are Mature mentally and desire a place to come and have adult conversation about horses and horse life.


Absolutely right Malinda! - And that's why there's a place for everyone here - "mature" is a state of mind, is "adult", and not necessarily connected with the passage of years.

OK, I'm twice your age, but if you want to be here, contributing to the general wellbeing, that is surely the whole point of this site - we oldies don't have an exclusive on knowledge, experience or insight. quite the reverse in my case, - fresh ideas rule ok!

SF

[Afellpony]

Yes, Iron Maiden I too remember all of that, which makes me feel very old...

[Stella2]

Absolutely right Malinda! - And that's why there's a place for everyone here - "mature" is a state of mind, is "adult", and not necessarily connected with the passage of years.

OK, I'm twice your age, but if you want to be here, contributing to the general wellbeing, that is surely the whole point of this site - we oldies don't have an exclusive on knowledge, experience or insight. quite the reverse in my case, - fresh ideas rule ok!

SF I don't want to make waves and I'm happy to welcome anyone really, but do you really mean that "adult is a state of mind" :confused: So a 10 or 12-year-old can be an adult :confused:

[ponylover88]

I don't want to make waves and I'm happy to welcome anyone really, but do you really mean that "adult is a state of mind" :confused: So a 10 or 12-year-old can be an adult :confused:

Going to butt in here, although by the sounds of it 18 is possibly too young but ...
I reckon that you can get some teenagers who are mature for their age, some adults who are rolling on 40+ can still be a little ... umm ... happy! ;):p
I think its more on personality than age, but hey, i dont really post much on here ... same goes for the whole board really.
Ive not been riding that long, so i fit into that catergory and definately ache after a good ride ... cant flex like i used too and definately am not fit like i used to be. Why? Couldnt tell you - i walk the 15 - 20min walk up and down hill 6 - 8 times a week and quite often do a fair amount more walking. I ride on average 3 - 7 hours a week ... on tuesdays twice in one day! :eek:
Love my sleep ... so why am i up so late? Getting up at 9.45am, but have monday am to recover! :p ... Plus, im waiting to play a nasty (ok not nasty nasty but funny!) trick on my mate whos in the next door room ... putting the hoover classically in her doorway so she trips over it in the morning haha!! ;):D

[Selle Francais]

I don't want to make waves and I'm happy to welcome anyone really, but do you really mean that "adult is a state of mind" :confused: So a 10 or 12-year-old can be an adult :confused:

Not quite what I said, Stella, I said "mature is a state of mind" - I was less than clear though by counterpointing it with "adult". I know some adults whom I would never describe as mature, and I know some young people who impress me with their maturity - error on my part there, sorry.

This is a massive thread, however, and I detect a gradual distillation of what we all mean by mature riders - I think in general, we are talking about older riders, ancients like me, late starters, returners, etc, but there is plenty of space too for people in their 20s (for instance) who bravely take on the commitment of starting out on riding and need somewhere to turn to for sensible reassurance and information, and also for new owners looking for help with their :eek: babies - the other generally agreed criteria seem to be a sense of humour :D and the willingness to recover from a splat (as opposed to a bounce!):o

I think it's great, love it

SF

[Selle Francais]

Talking of which, I'm getting back on today for the first time since breaking my arm a couple of months ago - wish me luck, guys!

SF

[cazrider]

ooer.. good luck SF. I'm sure it will be fine. Let us know how it goes.:D

[Skib]

Since we are talking of splatting and broken arms . . . Of which there have been a couple lately.

Is it the younger glam people like madonna who instinctively put out a hand to save themselves and end up with a broken arm?

While we real old people with much slower reactions dont have time to do anything and just fall directly onto our backsides? Relatively undamaged?

[cazrider]

Is it the younger glam people like madonna who instinctively put out a hand to save themselves and end up with a broken arm?
There you are Selle Francais, you always wanted to be called "glam" and compared with Madonna, didn't you?:D ;) :D

Personally I prefer "don't fall at any price". and when I have, I probably haven't had the wit to realise what has happened until "splat". Slow reactions? Yup..

[Selle Francais]

Well obviously I'm far more "glam" than I realised - move over Mrs Ritchie!
I must admit, whilst I don't usually take glee from other people's misfortunes, but that was absolutely priceless. I know those ponies in Richmond Park and to go, however hopefully, from them to the sort of horse she then bought - it was a script waiting to happen, bless her!

Anyway, my boy was so kind today! He was so pleased that I was back up there again (snorting little happy snorts) - he must have been wondering what was happening with my layoff - but he seemed to figure out (my body language perhaps?) that I wasn't completely right, and he was just so gentle - lovely walk, nice trot, smooth transitions - half an hour flew by, but I figured that was enough for "first time back" - and he was lovely and gentle and considerate - my bestest boy!

Thanks for all the kind words, folks - onward and upward now!

Cheers

SF

[carrimclaren]

Is it the younger glam people like madonna who instinctively put out a hand to save themselves and end up with a broken arm?

While we real old people with much slower reactions dont have time to do anything and just fall directly onto our backsides? Relatively undamaged?

:o Afraid not, i'm quite a pro at falling on ones backside and am very proud of my unscheduled dismounts onto my slightly more padded areas. Apart from the time i fell on my head (i just got myself a bit mixed up about which end went out the door first). :p

[CrisO]

Is it the younger glam people like madonna ...


Skib you may have just polarised people here. Madonna may be glam but the board may be split into those that regard 48 as young and those who think it's a little way away.
My Mum actually called me to see if I had read the story and point out that while I wasn't Madonna's age, I wasn't getting any younger and older bones are more likely to break. Thanks Mum

[Selle Francais]

Ouch ChrisO's Mum! But she is right - 48 eh? I remember that - I think I was probably falling off horses whilst jumping fences that were too big for me, and generally being very silly - much the same as I now say about Madonna, in fact!:)

Oh well, maybe that's a further definition of "mature" - never quite growing up (or at least, not admitting it!) :D :D :D

SF

[LindaAd]

Is it the younger glam people like madonna who instinctively put out a hand to save themselves and end up with a broken arm?



My son broke his wrist that way falling off an 8-inch wall when he was eight .... Younger, definitely, but no, not glam. I'm sure you can't generalise.

[Silvia]

Sorry, haven't red all the replies - but I came across this poem and thought it really sums up what being a "mature" person is about:

To a phenomenal woman
by M. Angelou
> When I was in my younger days,
> I weighed a few pounds less,
> I needn't hold my tummy in
> to wear a belted dress.
> But now that I am older,
> I've set my body free;
> There's the comfort of elastic
> Where once my waist would be.
> Inventor of those high-heeled shoes
> My feet have not forgiven;
> I have to wear a nine now,
> But used to wear a seven.
> And how about those pantyhose-
> They're sized by weight, you see,
> So how come when I put them on
> The crotch is at my knee?
> I need to wear these glasses
> As the print's been getting smaller;
> And it wasn't very long ago
> I know that I was taller.
> Though my hair has turned to gray
> and my skin no longer fits,
> On the inside, I'm the same old me,
> It's the outside's changed a bit.
> But, on a positive note...
>
> I've learned that no matter what happens, or how bad it seems today,
> life does go on, and it will be better tomorrow.
I've learned that you can tell> a lot about a person by the way he/she handles these three things:
a rainy day, lost luggage, and tangled Christmas tree lights.
I've learned that regardless of your relationship with your
> parents, you'll miss them when they're gone from your life.
I've learned that making a "living" is not the same thing as making a
> "life."
I've learned that life sometimes gives you a second chance.
> I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back.
I've learned that whenever I decide something with an open heart, I usually make the right decision.
I've learned that even when I have pains, I don't have to be one.
I've learned that every day you should reach out and touch someone. People love a warm hug, or just a friendly pat on the back.
I've learned that I still have a lot to learn.
I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.
>
> Please send this to five phenomenal women today. If you do, something
> good will happen: You will boost another woman's self esteem. (If you
> don't
> ..the elastic will break and your panty hose will fall down around
> your ankles.)

So here's to all the phenomenal people on this board! :) And please do pass it on! I don't want to worry about my panty hose falling down around my ankles...

[icegirl]

Liked the poem.
Regards falling off - I seem to do it very slowly, it takes forever and it always makes the horse look worried.
I am going deaf too - my daughter said something tonight about flashing badges and I said: " Oh great - flashing badgers" - this is quite worrying.

[LindaAd]

Liked the poem.
Regards falling off - I seem to do it very slowly, it takes forever and it always makes the horse look worried.
I am going deaf too - my daughter said something tonight about flashing badges and I said: " Oh great - flashing badgers" - this is quite worrying.



If you don't live somewhere where they pronounce final rs, like some parts of the US and the south west of England, then "flashing badgers" will sound exactly the same as "flashing badges", so there's nothing to worry about :)

As for falling off, I used to find it much slower when I was a child and the ground would slowly come up to meet me ....Now I generally hit the ground before I know what's happened - or else I stick on! :rolleyes:

[icegirl]

Thats a bit re-assuring - about the badgers I mean!

[mogadoga]

Im 17 *waves*
But i always feel happier with mature people. Although i do also post on the main board.
No offence to you all as i say this.... but my body is like all you oldies....THIS IS SAID TO ME BY MY 55 YEAR OLD FRIEND AT THE FARM! Lol. So im staying put!!! And all you fit people can shame me!! :D Mwahahaha.

And yous cant be awful and kick me out- as im broken :P

[pellowb]

I am 29 and always read/ post here. I suppose its because i have 4 children and my eldest child is almost 13 and i try and ride, study for a degree ( final year almost finished!!!) and run a house etc and i feel that the people here understand!

Also i stopped riding for a few years and have started again and its good to hear other peoples experiences etc.

I dont think it comes down to age, i think it comes down to your life style .

[mogadoga]

Liked the poem.
Regards falling off - I seem to do it very slowly, it takes forever and it always makes the horse look worried.
I am going deaf too - my daughter said something tonight about flashing badges and I said: " Oh great - flashing badgers" - this is quite worrying.

LOL. My friend as i mentioned above keeps worrying about her age and hearing/memory. She forgets things, muddles things up, and if shes talking to me she will often call me something else etc. Depending on our convosation. Im often phillip...her son lol.
And i always have to laught and say 'Im 17- whats my excuse?' coz to be honest sometimes im worse at it than she is, haha!

As for the falling thing....i landed SLOWLY on my fat ass. And broke my coxis. Hehe...so im afraid Madonna can suck my big toe! Grr if i did that id not only break my arm but probably shatter ever little piece of it :D

[icegirl]

I did an involuntary "owwwwwwwww" when you said that about your cocyx because my last fall but one involved landing on it and getting some displacement - lucky enough not to break it tho - poor you. Cost me lots of money in chiropractory!
My mate broke hers while ice skating for the first time at her daughters birthday party. Owwww again.........:)

[mogadoga]

Lol we do have some bad luck dont we.
Im gutted as i cant go xmas ice skating this year incase i do fall again and do more harm. Lol.

[katieB]

You mean to tell me that I just read through 7 pages of posts and I STILL dont know what makes a mature rider? :rolleyes: :D
I have been wondering this for sometime now, I am nearly 25 and have never dared post something in this section before for fear of not being old enough :o
I think its nice that returning riders have some place to go and chat about similar things but be careful not to alienate other members of the board who may feel like popping in occasionally :)

[mogadoga]

Like i said, im 17. And im here :P
So im sure your not going to be banished :D

A mature rider? Whats one of those:P lol. (just realised....thats the point of the question )

[alpha1]

First of all I wan't to say how fantastic I think that PellowB is - 4 children (including a 13 year old) at 29 and in the final year of a law degree is not an easy achievement, and to be running a life and riding as well is great.

Secondly I reckon that if you are under 50 you should be allowed to post only as an "honorary member" until you have demonstrated that you have adequate battle scars to qualify !

[Selle Francais]

"Ride good horses, drink good wine and live your life well, leaving a small but discernable imprint."

Love your philosophy, Alpha1 - says it all, really.

SF:cool:

[LindaAd]

, I am nearly 25 and have never dared post something in this section before for fear of not being old enough :o
:)

Like i said, im 17. And im here :P
So im sure your not going to be banished :D

A mature rider? Whats one of those:P lol. (just realised....thats the point of the question )

No one gets banished - everyone's welcome, honest! <grin>



First of all I wan't to say how fantastic I think that PellowB is - 4 children (including a 13 year old) at 29 and in the final year of a law degree is not an easy achievement, and to be running a life and riding as well is great.
!


If I'm any good at sums, that means she had the first when she was around 16! :eek:

[Selle Francais]

Can't argue with your maths, LindaAd - that is definitely one tough and capable lady - I think we really ought to accept her as (at least) an honorary "mature", don't you?:)

SF

[LindaAd]

Can't argue with your maths, LindaAd - that is definitely one tough and capable lady - I think we really ought to accept her as (at least) an honorary "mature", don't you?:)

SF

Like I said, SF - as far as I'm concerned, everyone's welcome, whether they started having kids at 16, 26, 36 or 46, or never had any at all :D

[highlandmaisie]

Couldn't resist joining in this thread, being one of the geriatrics. I find it really comforting to find that there are people of my age happily riding. I started at the age of 50 and am now 62 with a four month old granddaughter. I admit, I do tend to think of 40 as young now, but then, when I was seventeen I thought 23 was ancient!! One thing about age is that it doesn't really bother me who I have lessons with. Last time it was with an eleven year old! Also have to say that although I have been riding for ten years now, I still feel I can't really ride. Still can't get that canter transition right. Must be age....

[LindaAd]

Couldn't resist joining in this thread, being one of the geriatrics. I find it really comforting to find that there are people of my age happily riding. I started at the age of 50 and am now 62 with a four month old granddaughter. I admit, I do tend to think of 40 as young now, but then, when I was seventeen I thought 23 was ancient!! One thing about age is that it doesn't really bother me who I have lessons with. Last time it was with an eleven year old! Also have to say that although I have been riding for ten years now, I still feel I can't really ride. Still can't get that canter transition right. Must be age....


Hi, Maisie and welcome - we genuine oldies (notice I didn't say "mature":rolleyes: ) are pretty rare! And congratulations on the new granddaughter! Have you still got your cob? Did you sort things out with him in the end?

As for canter transitions, they do get easier when you and the horse know each other. But my instructor says: "Sit tall, shorten your reins and think canter." Nothing about inside leg, outside leg, seatbones, weight ... It works!

[CrisO]

I do tend to think of 40 as young now,

Definitely going to hang around somewhere where I'm though of as young.

[highlandmaisie]

Hi Linda!
Thanks for the congratulations. Still feels odd being a granny! Yes, I still have my cob, if you mean the one who wouldn't stand still. He's settled in now and I think he's just so handsome and lovely!! I've at last got round to going out for gentle little hacks on my own and even manage the odd canter. So far he's happy to stop when I get knackered - which doesn't take long!!
While I'm on the cob subject, what is the opinion about moustaches?(On horses that is!!) Tom arrived with a beautiful moustache which disappeared in the summer, but with the approach of winter, it has started to grow again. Also what are the best ways of looking after thick feathers, particularly in winter. I've read you don't want to wash them too often.
Re canter - I do try to "think canter", but I think I think too much and end up thinking it's not going to happen. Which it frequently doesn't!!

[old_woman]

http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/bigs/a102.gif

Why do so many posters assume that being old = being mature???

I get my old age pension but I don't think I have a very mature attitude to it. I LOVE to get my "spends" and I buy wine and horsefood with it ...I don't think I have a very mature attitude to my free bus pass either, and when I go into tack shops I ask how much discount they give to OAP's ...

Oh - and I ride an Arab mare who I bought as a weanling for my 60th birthday. I have been thinking that I might get myself a pony for my 70th, and let my daughter or granddaughter take over my mare, only because if I go for a knee replacement, mounting will be awkward for a while.

No, the possession of advanced years definitely doesn't equate with maturity in my case!

[Kazzie]

"Ride good horses, drink good wine and live your life well, leaving a small but discernable imprint."
SF:cool:


Yep - that about says it all!

[Selle Francais]

Ooh no Kazzie - I can't claim authorship of that one! I was quoting Alpha1 and agreeing with her much the way you are!

But I do love "Old Woman's" contribution - yes, get on in there - a pony for your 70th sounds brilliant - my boy will be 23 when I'm 70 (touch wood) - maybe he would appreciate a bit of a rest!

(Knowing him, I doubt it - possessive little b****r)

SF

[poohsmate]

http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/bigs/a102.gif

Why do so many posters assume that being old = being mature???

I get my old age pension but I don't think I have a very mature attitude to it. I LOVE to get my "spends" and I buy wine and horsefood with it ...I don't think I have a very mature attitude to my free bus pass either, and when I go into tack shops I ask how much discount they give to OAP's ...

Oh - and I ride an Arab mare who I bought as a weanling for my 60th birthday. I have been thinking that I might get myself a pony for my 70th, and let my daughter or granddaughter take over my mare, only because if I go for a knee replacement, mounting will be awkward for a while.

No, the possession of advanced years definitely doesn't equate with maturity in my case!

Good on you (old woman) im not to far behind you and i would say that i have an immature attitude :D :D to most things life included...
ok i have a few aches and pains but, inside im still 20 and living in the 60s:D :D :D if only!!!

[Iron Maiden]

Should we request a new subset of the forum for old & immature riders then?

[Selle Francais]

Should we request a new subset of the forum for old & immature riders then?

Judging by what this thread has thrown up, I reckon we need a slough of new subsets, ranging from "juvenile agers" to "ageing juveniles" - certainly there's a desperate need for a "complete nutters" (in the nicest possible way, and I would probably qualify) because this has really sparked an incredible level of interest and opinion - it has been absolutely fascinating - everybody has their own picture and an angle - it's wonderful, so rich! Who said the art of conversation was dead?

Love it

SF

[icegirl]

Or we could have the "very mature but with some immature attributes" section.:D

[Lopod]

Or we could have the "very mature but with some immature attributes" section.:D
Hoorah, I am not alone then. I am in my 60th year and have an 11 yo 16.2 TB gelding. All my horsey time is spent with people 30 years younger and I like to think I fit in quite well - I have been accused of being a "pony clubber" 'cos I enjoy lively hacking! I am very fortunate to have lessons with a young dressage rider who has olympic aspirations. but still has the patience to try and improve this old bag of bones and her bolshy horse. Anyone else got ideas beyond their realistic capabilities?

[jinglejoys]

http://www.apha.com/pressroom/06_carolstorke.html
:D
(Wouldn't mind having a go at that Indoor trail riding myself someone sent me a short video clip and while researching it I came up with the above article and thought of this thread!)

Heres the clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFST-2Yngls

[loulou1972]

:D Lynda you had a bad day?????

Can i join in I'm only 34 but last week i felt about 54 had a bad back and was dying as my MOTHER-IN-LAW:eek: put it:D :D

Lynda when we went riding in the forest all I saw was a really nice person who enjoyed horses and was game for a laugh......:p

Where's Hallmarked she can tell you all about being 'mature' the old that one get the more insane she becomes hehehehehehe

[LindaAd]

:D Lynda you had a bad day?????

Can i join in I'm only 34 but last week i felt about 54 had a bad back and was dying as my MOTHER-IN-LAW:eek: put it:D :D

Lynda when we went riding in the forest all I saw was a really nice person who enjoyed horses and was game for a laugh......:p

Where's Hallmarked she can tell you all about being 'mature' the old that one get the more insane she becomes hehehehehehe



Bad day? Hey, what did I say? :confused:

"A really nice person who enjoyed horses and was game for a laugh ..."
That's nice, I'll go along with that one - thank you loulou!
:D

I'm glad your back's better - or at least better enough so that you only feel 44 instead of 54 .... The young mum I share lessons with couldn't come last week because she had a bad back. I reckon it was from too much circuit training, although she denies it :D :D :D

[jenren!!]

Im 17 going on 70. Can i join? :p.

I just like to read and sometimes contribute to what the mature riders have to say. If i was immature, id soon get bored by the 'mature' threads :D.

[cvb]

was thinking along the "state of mind" line, but am now wondering if it is more to do with the *issues* that are relevent to this forum.

Bearing in mind the "mature" section was added some time after the board started, it must have been clear that there was a distinct group of issues, and a distinct set of people interested in those issues, that made it worth separating them out into their own area.

After all, anyone posting in the Mature section can also post in any other section as well so can take 'General', 'Training of...', 'NH' etc issues to the appropriate area. But *this* forum is specific to the issues which the "mature" community have.

In other words, to a certain extent it is self-defining by the people who post the