NAF 5* superflex or cortaflex?

[teabiscuit]

my lad needs a joint supplement

i've used the NAF 5* superflex liquid in the past and had good results, but wondered if cortaflex would be better.

opinions please :)
many thanks

[Peanut]

From what I've heard, the only difference is the price. ;)

[teabiscuit]

ummm thanks for that Peanut :)

[Yann]

My impression from everything I've read on the subject is that you get what you pay for, but that of course also depends on what your horse actually needs. I give mine cortaflex anyway :)

[teabiscuit]

the NAF stuff is £30 for a litre, so isn't cheap. i think it lasted my horse 1 month.

how does cortaflex compare with that Yann?
thanks :)

i'm seriously thinking about giving the cortaflex a go. if i do i'll report back on which i thought gave the best results

[Yann]

A big tub of Cortaflex powder costs me £52, and at the maintenance dose is meant to last 120 days, which works out at 43p per day per horse. I don't know if it would be comparing like for like though, as I'm sure the liquid version is more expensive.

[Trewsers]

I've heard that the Cortaflex is more expensive, but that the superflex does the same job and is a little bit cheaper. I had Joe on Superflex, but I don't know how much good it did / didn't do as shortly after he was diagnosed with degenerative joint disease.

[martini55]

If it helps, I just bought a 908g of cortaflex powder for around £49 and that lasts 4 months at maintenance level.

[nutkin]

I used to keep my old mare on cortaflex and found it very good.When I sold her on her new owner changed to the supaflex and found it wasn't as effective and so changed back to the cortaflex which again worked better.

[teabiscuit]

umm thanks for all the info everyone,
am persuaded to give cortaflex a try :)

[Nookster]

martini55 if you don't mind me asking where did you get the 980g for £49. I seem to only find it at £55

Girl on our yard uses cortaflex and her boys have both benefited from it

[puzzles]

cortaflex is amazing; the results really do speak for themselves,a nd it's more economic than some people generally think, as it ids fed in very small doees.
:-)

[becs]

I understood that they may be same chemical but Cortaflex was a _variation_ of that chemical that's better absorbed into the bloodstream and hence taken up more at joints (PL where are you?). Hence it's more expensive.

So we bought the powder = slightly cheaper version of Cortaflex.

But from feedback on NR it seems to be a very individual thing, how much which version helps.

[miggy]

sorry to add to the mix but have recently started an older pony on Synoquin and been amazed by the difference

[martini55]

martini55 if you don't mind me asking where did you get the 980g for £49. I seem to only find it at £55

Girl on our yard uses cortaflex and her boys have both benefited from it

I got it from Conchies (at Rowanlea Riding School) just outside Dundee. I was a bit surprised at the price to be honest. I normally get it off the net for around the price you mentioned.

[honeychop]

Mines on Mobifor - great stuff - anyone tried this?

[teabiscuit]

sorry to add to the mix but have recently started an older pony on Synoquin and been amazed by the difference

Mines on Mobifor - great stuff - anyone tried this?

what do these products use to improve horsey? are they chondroitin and glucosamine based?

[julia gulia]

I use Equinyl and am thrilled with it.

[teabiscuit]

oh heck i'm getting in a pickle now :D
what's in equinyl?

[julia gulia]

sorry Biscuit....I threw a spanner into the works:p

Vita Flex Equinyl Liquid
Natural Lubricant Supplement. Just 1oz a day provides 2,500 mg of glucosamine HCI and 875 mg of chondroitin sulfate.

[Jessey]

Quote:
Originally Posted by honeychop
Mines on Mobifor - great stuff - anyone tried this?

what do these products use to improve horsey? are they chondroitin and glucosamine based?


Mobifor is basically the same as cortaflex but made in the UK (thats the way my vet described it), this is what my vet prescribed for Bo when he damaged his stifle - certainly seemed to help. I think I paid about £45 a litre which is 40 days supply on a maintainance ration (25ml but you can give up to 50ml if you need to and I think they also mention a 15ml dose but we never went that low with it).
As I understand it you can only get it from your vet, its made by Nutrilabs who make the NAF 5* it is just a more concentrated and higher quality version.

The different ones seem to help different problems, Bo injury was cartlidge so I would definatly go for a supplement containing Hylauronic acid, but for DJD this may not be as relevant - so check out which ingrediants are going to be of most benifit to you :p

J x

[miggy]

"Synequin Equine Powder scientific formulation of Chondroitin Sulphate, Glucosamine HCI, Zinc Sulphate, and Ascorbic Acid delivers the necessary nutrients to promote and maintain healthy joints and cartilage production."

Basically research shows
1) Chondroitin and glucosamine work best given together
2) "pure" forms work best
Some of the cheaper supplements have less glucosamine/no chondroitin (thats the more expensive bit)

Synequin has to be got from vet (upside of that means its a patented licensed product which has been tested to ensure efficacy and safety-Downside means higher price)
it is hellishly expensive even at cost price but I really cannot believe the difference it has made. The moo pony wasnt lame but she had been just generally bit stiff and slow since we had her, just a week or so after starting the stuff (had tried cortaflex before) I noticed a real difference. Even just watching her in the field she is so much more free and spins and canters etc which I had never seen her do before
Am mrs sceptic about these things so am very suprised!

[bubblegum]

I used to give one of my mares Cortaflex, but she has been on Vetvits Equiflex for over 2 years. It was developed by Vets and I think the basic formula is the same.

[Laura+Phantom]

Saphy's on Cortaflex powder, I tried her on NetTex PerFlex when it ran out http://www.net-tex.co.uk/product_page.cfm?pid=309&men=3 and it sounds the same, but she was really stiff on it, so she's back on Cortaflex now.

I can get 908g for £46, woohoo! Great local tack shop has it reduced!

[teabiscuit]

well Jessey its for his damaged hocks-he has through pins through wall kicking in the past.

it's more a soft tissue damage i think although i realise he will have caused concussive damage to his old bones

he's been fine up to now, but am just starting to think he's getting a bit stiff in them, so had to do something

i got some cortaflex last night so will report back in a month or so with any news

thanks so much everyone for your advice and input :) any more will also be very welcome

[Jessey]

Do let us know how you get on, I have just brought a glucosamine supplement from the US which Bo will go onto this weekend, am also waiting for a Hylauronic acid one to arrive.

J x

[Tass Richardson]

The horse physio recommended ARTHRIFLEX which is made by Nettex. She said that they claim that you will see results in hours rather than days or weeks. One of her patients had tried it and been very pleased with the results.

[Ebie Equestrian]

Hi

I've had really good feedback from people using Equine Answers PremierFlex.

It contains higher levels of Glucosamine and Hyaluronic Acid than Naf 5 Star and Cortaflex (also contains Chondroitin and MSM) and it only works out at 33pence a day.

PM me if you want any further details

Emma

[Nik-n-Kia]

I was told by a lady I used to ride for that cortaflex is one step of cortazone injection and should only be administered if everything else has failed.

I have used superflex and equivite joint and I have heard great things about superflex as well as the fact that it is cheaper.

I wouldn't feed cortaflex first as I would then have something else to try next rather than expensive monthly injections.

I'd go with whatever suited your pocket and your horse!!

Nikki xxxxx

[countrybumpkin]

..to confuse you even more!
How about Think Sound from Brinicombe Equine?
per 40g dose: 12000mg MSM (for inflammation, soft tissue and stiffness), 10,000mg glucosamine (for cartilage and joint fluid) 900mg Chondroitin (to help slow the degradation) plus antioxidants and trace elements for joint health.
2kg costs £63 and will be delivered to your door (or horse's stable door!) for no extra cost.
www.brinicombe-equine.co.uk - you can read feedback on their site and order online.

[arnie bean]

i was feeding 4 different horses on cortaflex and it was working out v expensive. we now use supple joint formular - (cod lier oil) and it works just as well @ only £16 a bottle oposed to cf @ £58 per pot.