does any one need showing tips?

[copper76]

If anyone needs help with how to show their horses then let me know and I will try to help as its my favourite subject:
Turn out
tack
clothing
ringcraft
whatever!!

[conne the mara]

Yes Please!!!


I want to show my connie in M&M, Show Hunter. I think he may be a little too chunky for riding horse. He is 15.1 and registered as a partbred as I don't have his Dams papers. Can u suggest what I should do with him and any other tips!!!



Mandie

[copper76]

If you show him as a hunter he will need to be plaited up,trimmed ect which will be incorrect for M&ms-is he hairy or is he trimmed??If you want to go for the m&ms then p'haps you could do ridden and working mountain and moorland for a bit of variety-you can have him hairy with no plaits.
If you show him in m&ms you cannot wear spurs so make sure he is forward from your leg.
Let me know what classes you decide is best and I will help you some more!!

[conne the mara]

He's slightly hairy at the mo but I do clip him in the winter. I also have pulled his mane which I know isn't in the rules!!! Problem is, I am going to start competing at dressage so can't have him hairy! Looks like the hunter classes. I don't like jumping though. Can I use a dressage saddle for showing?

[copper76]

You can use the dressage saddle as long as it doesn't have long straps-if irt soes then use a g.p. saddle,no numnah,plain girth and eithetr a pelham with double reins or a double bridle.Make sure you have a plain flat browband and noseband.Make sure your stirrups are long enough for the judge and make sure your horse is used to different riders.
You will need him to trot up correctly in hand as well and be able to stand still in a line up for a long time.
If you look on the bhs website(www.bhs.org.uk) on the general webboards you will be able to see my hunter (Although he was in a r/c horse class in the photo hence the coloured browband!!)

[Sue&Tasha Green]

Hi, I want to show my 16hh Throughbred mare in Hack and Hunter classes. I was wondering, can you used a Kimblewick for showing?
Tasha

[copper76]

Hi!!firstly ,(not meaning to put you off) you need to decide whether your horse a hack or a hunter as she won't be both!If she is of heavier build then she would be better of in the hunter class,if very lightweight then the hack and if some where in the middle then she would be better in te riding horse classes.
For any of these classes a kimblewick would not usually be used-it is more correct either to where a double bridle or pelham with 2 reins.If you decide to do hunter classes the she will need a plain flat noesband and browband.If you decide on the riding horse or hack classes she will need a plain noseband but a coloured browband.You will need a plain black brown or leather girth and no numnah if pos-if she must weara numnah then it should be black or brown and fit the shape of her saddle.
The only class that a kimblewick would be more acceptable would be working hunter where you jump and any tack is permitted.
For the hack and riding horse classes your horse must be very well schooled./any thing else-just ask!!

[Sue&Tasha Green]

Hi, she is a light throughbred so it will probably be hack classes. She isn't going well anymore in the kimblewick so i will be either using a snaffle or a full cheek french link, are these suitable for showing classes.
I also have a question for you, do you compete in unaffiliated showing or affiliated? It's just i showed my old pony and my moms ex-inhand show cob in unaffiliated mountain and moreland competitions. In one of the classes a girl came in on a very pretty, well schooled pony, but it was plaited up and done up as a riding pony more than a m&m pony. Does this happen alot, will the hairy ones always be overlooked for the sleek looking ones, even in a m&m class?

[copper76]

I ride at County level as well as local level.At local level the rules tend to bit odd sometimes-true mountain and moorlands should be 'hairy' but still smart and tidy.they should not be plaited-that is a bit odd.
With regard to the bit the snaffle will be fine to start with but give her a try in the pelham with 2 reins or the double as this will be more acceptable.
Let me know how you get on!

[Sarah]

hello!

Firstly, Copper76 are you going to the SORC show on Sunday? If so, see you there!

Secondly i have entered teh M&M ridden class there and i just can't remember what order everything goes in. I seem to remember (from a few years back) that we all ride round then are called in and do an individual ridden show, then do we all go large and get called in again for the horses to be stripped, I can't remember!

If you could give me a pointer that would be great, and hopefully see you on Sunday!

bye!

[copper76]

Hi Sarah,we are having a weekend at home this week.I am doing the team show jumping for Chiltern and Thames rider for a change at the yard where I keep my horse.You might have been there-Hall Place??
With regards to M&M-what you have said is correct-you all go in together,walk trot and canter,get pulled into a provisional line up and then do and individual show.You are then asked to strip your horse and trot it up in hand.Sometimes if there are tons in it they might split the class.I competed and Henley Show last year on a sec d(it was his 2nd show in his whole life) and there was about 40 in the class-it went on forever!!
Good luck on Sunday.

[Sarah]

Is that the yard in Tilehurst with a tack shop at it? If so i do indeed know it and use the tack shop! I work just off Tilehurst Rd, but keep Tango in Finchampstead at Wheatlands Farm (Nicola Greenwood's place), do you know that yard?

anyway, thanks for the tips and good luck with the jumping.

bye!

[kaykell7]

i have 2 highland ponies who i want to show in the mountain and moorland classes they are both obviously highlands but not register will this mean im restricted to just local shows

[Cochise]

Ok here's one for you.....do you know the correct turnout for an appaloosa in in hand classes?
I'm not sure about bridles/halters etc and correct turnout of mane and tail.....do I plait? Or leave it out?
Lol.....can you help me?

[Mehitabel]

is this a coloured class or a breed class? in the uk, a coloured class (piebald, skewbald, spotted), plaits are correct with tail either pulled or plaited, in a bridle. breed classes might be different, particularly since you aren't in the uk. is there an appaloosa society, and has it got a website? they might have rules on what to wear.

[Beth T]

Hi, posted a thread under General site as I hadn't found this specialist forum! I would be very grateful for any comments......Thank you!

[conne the mara]

Hi Copper,

Kango is finally forward enough for me to start competing him. Do you know any good books on showing? Also what is best for the individual shows?


Mandie

[supergirl]

hi there i was wondering weather you could help me?

i own a 16.2 coulerd gelding he i 3/4 irish cob and 1/4 sports hoese and has quite good breeding i always seem to get looked down at because he is hogged and trimmed i thught this was acceptable in hunter and plus he has splints i was always led to belive that splints in a hunter class should not go against you is this true?

thanx

[Mehitabel]

the thing about splints is that they're a sign of less-than-perfect conformation in the leg - a well made leg should stand up to work without getting a splint. so they're a sign of weakness in the leg, which is why they're penalised. hunter classes are less hot on this than others, as a hunter has (if it actually hunts) more miles on the clock than a show horse, so is expected to pick up some lumps and bumps. they're less bothered about blemishes and scars, but splints aren't so good. not sure about the hogging, as i do natives, but i believe it's more for cobs.
mandie - there are loads of good books on showing, and there's one called showing native ponies
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1872082580/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/202-4782750-6612666
here's the link to it on amazon. it has advice about everything.

[Hel]

Don't know if its going to happen yet, (nerves already setting in) but am thinking about entering a local show, but what do I wear, as an adult, long boots/short boots? is the other acceptable, what colour jacket? classes would be well not sure on that either yet, Riding Club horse possibly not sure whats on offer at the show, maybe a very very small workers class, all depends on how shaky I'm feeling and on what I have to wear as I have absolutly no show gear,
even simple things like shirt colours, the kids seem to be able to wear coloured one but what about adults,
Will no doubt be here again asking about classes when I get an idea of whats on offer,
Thank you
Hel

[Mehitabel]

hi hel,
adults wear long boots, rubber is fine if you don't have leather, but not short boots. tweed jacket for most classes, and definitely for working hunter. i wear a white shirt, but i have seen people with coloured ones. a tie that goes with your jacket, mine's yellow with blue spots. cream/beige jods, people do wear canary yellow ones, but not my taste!

[Beth T]

What is the difference between show hunter & ridden hunter classes, or are they different names for the same class? Also, whilst at Hickstead a few days ago I noticed all the ridden hunters had quarter marks, I thought that this wasn't the done thing for hunters. Lastly, is a show cane correct for hunter classes or should you carry a hunting whip. Thank you!

[Mehitabel]

a show hunter is slightly finer, edging towards riding horse territory, and i believe they come down harder on blemishes, as a horse that actually hunts is bound to get a few cuts and scrapes. i tihnk the quarter marks thing depends on the section - i don't think heavyweight hunters have them. not 100% sure though, and i'm afraid i can't help with the cane/whip thing.

[jellybaby_ss]

Yes help please!
Im looking for a Connemara or New Forest or Welsh C/D to do workers and ridden with. It probably sounds like a strange question but what sort of colour shirt and tie should I wear 4 M&M or can I be as adventurus as I want??!!

[Mehitabel]

i show new forests, and i wear a plain white shirt (because i got them from marks and spencer and that was all they had!) boss wears blue pinstriped shirt, and i know people who wear green or yellow stripes. wear a tie that goes with your hacking jacket - i have a yellow one with blue spots, and boss has a similar one. i wear a fawny jacket, hers is darker. be bold - it'll get you noticed! (and get a new forest - they're by far the best m&m!)

[jellybaby_ss]

Thanks!! Ill go shopping and have sum fun. Would I be able to finda NF that didnt make me look too big (5'5") coz all the ones Ive seen locally are like 13.2

[Mehitabel]

my boss is 5'8 and one of her stallions is 13.1! you might have to come a bit further south, as most of the studs are near the new forest, but there are plenty of up-to-height ones around.have a look at www.newforestpony.com which is the breed society site, they have links to various stud web pages. offhand i can think of www.farriersnewforestponies.co.uk and www.merriestud.co.uk .
it's nearly all adults in the new forest showing scene, and most of them are taller than me (i'm 5'2).

[[S]ophie]

I have recentley bought a 153cms Show Hunter, Bay, Mare.
I am going to do show hunter classes not exc 153cms and hopfully some working hunter but!!!

I dont really know what bridle or bit to use, for example which reins;
- Plaited
- Plain
- Half Rubber??

Also, what about my bridle?
- Brown with white stitching
- Thick noseband
- Raised Brown Band?

Bitt? She is currently in a hanging cheek french link but i dont know wether to use a;
- Rugby Pelham
- Double Bridle
- Showing Pelham
- French Link Pelham??


Also, what tie, show cane, hat, coloured gloves?
I have a tweed show jacket, yellow shirt and red tie with yellow spots; is this correct?
Do i have to wear long boots? Or is it ok to use jodpur boots with clips?

I dont know which show cane either;
-Plain
-Plain with gold ball on each end
-A sort of wooden one lol

Gloves?
-Yellow?
-Brown?

Hat?
-Tall Crown
-Standard size? (Hoping they have to be blue)

And finally, should i wear a like fluffy rimmed brown numnah or just a plain one? or none?

And also any tips?
For example; enhancing black bits?
- any particluar good hoof polish
- any body polish?
- anything for her tail?

I really need help; just need those sort of tips that really make you stand out from the others and catch the judges eye!

Even if you could just give me a few answers..you would be a great help!

I know i sound like a real novice..just want to make sure everything is as it should be! Would be fab if anyone with SUCCESFUL SHOWING EXPERIENCE THEMSELVES could help thankss!!!!! xxx

[eml]

We used to show Show Hunter/ working hunter ponies at county level until SFS got too old!!

I would show a 153 SH in a brown double bridle with plain leather, no white stitching or raising and the width to suit your ponies head. I personally prefer the half lined rubber grip reins that look like plain leather from the ground. Very discrete numnah if you really need it. Keep 'make up' to a minimum, hoof varnish will level up odd coloured feet but a good well fed and groomed coat will beat all the coat gloss in the world! Get really good at plaiting, well turned out plaits can make or break presentaion.

Tweed and shirts sounds OK but as most riders in 153 will be 18 -20ish long leather boots will be better and .... personal hate .... never wear clips in the ring, sew on elastic if you really need it. Plain show cane, or hunting crop (like whip without the thong), brown gloves , blue velvet hat with flesh coloured straps provided it goes with your jacket.

For workers substitute the bridle your horse goes best in !