Grey and white appaloosa cross

[Sexy Sietske]

My little boy is grey and white with black spots.His mum was a blue and white cob, his dad a near leopard spot. I know that the greyin him will eventually go white but what about his spots? I will post some pics of him later when i go up to the stables.

Im just curious as to what colour he will end up as he grey patches are fairly light as it is. And is it possible to get a horse born grey???

[gypsygold]

If the spots are the same as in the leopard spot appaloosa (his dad) then they shouldnt fade with age - they will always be thier.

Heres my very spotty boy - hope you dont mind me showing him off! Hes not been jumping long so gives everything mile - at least he has scope!

http://www.shgphotographic.co.uk/RECSJ191206/REC%20SJ%2019%2012%2006%20class4%20grand%20prix%2011under/slides/NZ6K8078.html

[Cochise]

Mine started out very dark brown with no spots and a bit white blanket with rib stripes. He's 11 now and has roaned right out to a greyish colour and has developed spots that are dark brown. His leg blotches and rib stripes have roaned out with him, but still visible.
I'd say that the spots will remain, but if he's anything like mine, they'll keep changing over the years!

[Sexy Sietske]

Here is one pic..its not very good though but could give you a good idea.

This is a picture of him 18months old and I have seen a picture of him when he was a foal and he was just slightly darker than this but his coat is darker now (winter coat)
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i305/34lanny34/HPIM0792.jpg

ETA : Please excuse the poo stains...poo is more comfortable to lie on that shavings and it this season fashion....aparently :p

[Sexy Sietske]

*Bump* Anyone??

[Freckles]

I think your horse will fade, as to me it does look like a grey with spots, and as the horse lightens with age, then I think the spots will too, depends if the parents have the greying gene, do you know if either of those has faded?
there was a stunning leoperd over here, but its mum was a grey and now its totaly faded too, such a shame.
And the stallion I used on one of my mares was from a fader (the mare was a leopard,went white) luckily the boy I used did not inherit the grey gene, and it cant skip a generation.
personly I dont think greys should be allow in the breeding of appaloosas.

you horse is lovely though, nice kind face.

Jenny

[Cochise]

personly I dont think greys should be allow in the breeding of appaloosas.


They're not! Well there is a strict rule about this in the NZ appaloosa association and we're under the Appaloosa Horse Club rules. :)

[chev]

If he carries grey, the spots will fade too. You'll probably find they take much longer to fade than the rest of him though, and he may have pale grey spots long after the rest of him is white.

App patterns can and do dveleop in odd ways; some born without spots will shed out to have them, some born with spots but carrying Appaloosa roan (varnish roan) will roan out and lose the spots (but will retain varnish marks on bony bits).

Grey is not part of the Appaloosa complex of patterns, and as such doesn't interact with them in the same way that the Appaloosa genes interact with each other.

Grey gradually inhibits the horse's ability to produce pigment in the coat (not teh skin - skin retains dark pigment throughout a grey's life) which is why your horse's spots are grey, rather than black or brown, as they would be without the grey. So they're already fading to grey now, and yes, they'll slowly fade more and more.

You can get horses born grey; more common is that they're born base colour with dark points (a chestnut going grey will be born chestnut with proper chestnut legs, for example - not the usual fawny colour most foals are born with) and sometimes grey spectacles.

A foal born white is generally down to some other gene though; either maximum sabino or frame, or a lethal white foal, for example. Those foals will usually have pink skin.

[Sexy Sietske]

Gutted!! I like his markings :o

I know that his dad was full appaloosa and mum was a blue and white cob x but that is all I know. His spots look black though (duno why they look grey in the pic but they look black when looking at them actually on him) and they have gotten bigger as he got has got older (was only dots when he was a baby)