Beautiful............ - Page 2

Troi · #21 6th Dec 2007, 05:56 AM

Wow thanks for the video it was lovely

Sam (aka SLW) · #22 6th Dec 2007, 09:42 AM

They do have quite a few videos on youtube if you do a search for them. This is by far my fave one though. Glad you all enjoy it as much as I do

evie's mummy · #23 6th Dec 2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jaydevon

im sorry but its nothing more than tricks, it is nothing about a relashionship if it was why does she need a whip? that horse does that "routine" time and time again, it is practiced.

Couldn't agree more. TBH I 'm not bashing the peeps who like this sort of thing but to me it just reminds me of poor circus animals. Its trying to make you think that the horse and girl have some magical 'relationship' but all it is is a whip a carrot and probably a hell of alot of repetitive training for the horse. It definatley doesn't make me think ' oh what a natural bond these two share'

JULIA G · #24 6th Dec 2007, 12:18 PM

Oh thank you, that's really cheered me up on this rainy day. Beautiful ... brought a tear to me eye.

Roseanne · #25 6th Dec 2007, 03:00 PM

I saw this act too, and must confess I was a bit suspicious of the whip, and the "rewards" when he did what she wanted - I felt the flattening of his ears was a fear response, rather than trusting submission, but then I might be wrong, and it was beautiful to see, if you could get past the stick and the slight aggression, which did worry me to be honest.

Roseanne xxxx

~*sugarlump*~ · #26 6th Dec 2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by evie's mummy

Couldn't agree more. TBH I 'm not bashing the peeps who like this sort of thing but to me it just reminds me of poor circus animals. Its trying to make you think that the horse and girl have some magical 'relationship' but all it is is a whip a carrot and probably a hell of alot of repetitive training for the horse. It definatley doesn't make me think ' oh what a natural bond these two share'

sorry but have to agree. teaching a horse to rear on command to me doesn't show a bond, just a heck of alot of training

beanz's mum · #27 6th Dec 2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wildponies

Oh yeh i know that. Just he actually looks quite aggresive in some bits of it.

I agree!

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Originally Posted by jaydevon

im sorry but its nothing more than tricks, it is nothing about a relashionship if it was why does she need a whip? that horse does that "routine" time and time again, it is practiced.

the whip is used as an extension of the arm supposedly, i do agree with what youve said about the "routine" and that its practised, not really a partnership just a horse and handler both trained to represent a horse and owner.

beautiful video though, id love to be in one of the shows...like spirit of the horse.

Wally · #28 6th Dec 2007, 04:54 PM

Tin hat on, flack jacket in place , sand bags and anti aircraft guns to the ready!

Sorry, guys, I didn't like the horse's body language one little bit. The shaking of the head and other little cues say to me a horse with OCD going through the motions and not adoring his handler, just doing what he is told and not 100% happy about it.

Runs down foxhole and digs in for the duration.

wildponies · #29 6th Dec 2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wally

Runs down foxhole and digs in for the duration.

Any room for a couple more of us down there Wally?!

jaydevon · #30 6th Dec 2007, 05:01 PM

hehe ive just raised my head out of mine

coss · #31 6th Dec 2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tootsie4U

Gorgeous and IMO it was just his spirit coming out. Not at all aggressive.

Is he *really* a stallion though? I looked and couldnt find evidence

i pretty sure you should be able to see *more* at 3mins 10 ish... i wouldn't say he was a stallion..

puzzles · #32 6th Dec 2007, 06:25 PM

Awww - a rare sight of a horse enjoying very precious moment with his trainer!
Totally inspiratinal for us all!

:-D Thank you for putting it on.

xxxxx

fairlady · #33 6th Dec 2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mayoguinness

Nice horse, me and may play like that in the field, not as graceful, and his circles at liberty aren't so perfect but not to far off

Yeah Morse and I 'PLAY' like that as well......

Only NOT INTENTIONALLY

AND HE DOES NOT STOP

I could see why people go 'oh fantastic' cos it is, but it is also a very well practised routine, and stallion or not I don't think he looks that enamoured by it all....sorry

Portia · #34 6th Dec 2007, 06:41 PM

Beautiful, graceful, elegant....right up until the shot of him with ears flat back and a 'tense' face. This is a horse who's been trained to the n'th degree.

Make room in the hole please

!

Sam (aka SLW) · #35 6th Dec 2007, 07:12 PM

I have missed something - what's with the whole hole thing????

fairlady · #36 6th Dec 2007, 07:17 PM

Because we all think although it is beautiful, its all down to practise and practise, reward, whip etc., and its nothing to do with a relationship built up between the two of them.

If however she was doing it without the whip

or rewards, I don't think the stallion would be hanging around to 'perform'

Portia · #37 6th Dec 2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wally

Tin hat on, flack jacket in place , sand bags and anti aircraft guns to the ready!

Sorry, guys, I didn't like the horse's body language one little bit. The shaking of the head and other little cues say to me a horse with OCD going through the motions and not adoring his handler, just doing what he is told and not 100% happy about it.

Runs down foxhole and digs in for the duration.

This one

jaydevon · #38 6th Dec 2007, 07:17 PM

people seeing it for what it really is and disagreeing (the hole thing)

Sam (aka SLW) · #39 6th Dec 2007, 07:23 PM

Everyone is entitled to their opinion lol I hate the likes of PP but thats just MO- no need to go in a hole

I still say hats off to them. Obviously there is a lot of work that will go on behind the scenes. I am dubious of the close up facial expression of the horse but do not have a problem with the whip (as long as she is not using it directly on the horse) and I also see nothing wrong with a carrot as a thank you to the horse.
Still though, honestly, how many of us with our own horses would be able to do a display like that??

jaydevon · #40 6th Dec 2007, 07:45 PM

ok the reason i objected.... i used to work with someone that trained circus/performances horses, i have also had a circus horse directley from yasmin smarts circus.....

now if any of you want to see a horse and owner at harmoney i will willingly video me and pluto playing..... i do not need a whip i do not need a carrot. hes ears will remain forward... and yes he does "tricks"

that horse is TRAINED to do that sequence of moves, it is not harmoney it is training. pure and simple. in actual fact that horse will do that performance twice a day at least 3-4 days a week.